[Xenolar]

I have come across many websites with lists of famous INTJs, yet many have different lists. So recently, I have decided to compile all of these lists to form the Ultimate INTJ lists. I have also written down several whom I speculate to be INTJs, while not yet having been affirmed. I would like this list to be constantly improved upon, so feel free to discuss any individuals who should or shouldn't be on the list. Also feel free to engage in discussion.

Here it is--the mega-list:


* Angela Lansbury - actress (Murder, She Wrote)
* Arnold Schwarzenegger - actor, Governor of California
* Arthur Ashe - tennis champion
* Augustus Caesar - Roman Emperor
* C. Everett Koop - former U.S. Surgeon General
* C. S. Lewis - apologist, author (The Chronicles of Narnia)
* Calvin Coolidge - American President
* Charles Rangel - politician, decorated war veteran
* Chester A. Arthur - lawyer, American President
* Chevy Chase - actor, comedian
* Dan Akroyd - actor, comedian, musician
* Donald Rumsfeld - former U.S. Secretary of Defense
* Dwight D. Eisenhower - American President
* Edwin Moses - Olympic gold medalist
* General Colin Powell - former U.S. Secretary of State
* Greg Gumbel - TV sportscaster
* Hannibal Barca - Military Commander
* Ivan Lendl - tennis champion
* James K. Polk - American President
* Jane Austen - author (Pride and Prejudice)
* Joan Lunden - Journalist
* Josephine Tey - English author
* Katie Couric - journalist
* Lance Armstrong - cyclist (seven Tour De France wins)
* Maria Shriver - journalist, wife to Arnold Schwarzenegger
* Martina Navratilova - tennis champion
* Michael Dukakis - former Governor of Massachusetts
* Orel Hershiser - baseball player (pitcher)
* Pernell Roberts - actor, activist
* Peter Jennings - journalist
* Raymond Burr - actor (Perry Mason), vintner
* Rudy Giuliani - former New York City mayor
* Sir Isaac Newton - Astronomer
* Susan B. Anthony - civil rights leader
* Thomas Jefferson - American President
* Veronica Hamel - actress
* William F. Buckley, Jr. - journalist
* William J. Bennett - politician
* Woodrow Wilson - American President
* General Ulysses S. Grant – Union general, American President
* Friederich Nietzsche – philosopher
* Niels Bohr – physicist
* Peter the Great – Russian tsar
* Stephen Hawking – astrophysicist
* John Maynard Keynes –
* Lise Meitner – chemist
* Ayn Rand – philosopher, author
* John F. Nash Jr. – mathematician, game theorist
* Norbert Wiener – mathematician, founder of cybernetics
* Nikola Tesla – physicist, engineer, inventor
* Glenn Gould – Canadian pianist and composer
* Stanley Kubrick – film director (2001: A Space Odyssey)
* Jean-Paul Sartre – philosopher
* Erik Satie – composer, pianist
* Helmuth von Moltke – German military general
* Isaac Asimov – biochemist, science-fiction author (I Robot)
* Theodore Kaczynski – infamous “Unabomber”
* Lewis Carroll – author, logician, mathematician
* Franz Kafka – author

* Calvin – Calvin and Hobbes
* Cassius – The Tragedy of Julius Caesar
* Clarice Starling - Silence of the Lambs
* Batman – Batman Begins
* Dexter – Dexter’s Laboratory
* Dr. Jonathan Crane - Batman Begins
* Dr. Otto Octavius (Doc Ock) - Spiderman 2
* Ellen Ripley - Alien
* Ensign Ro Laren - Star Trek: The Next Generation
* Ernst Stavro Blofeld - James Bond
* Gandalf - Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit
* George Smiley - John Le Carr character
* Hannibal Lecter - Silence of the Lambs
* Jigsaw – Saw films
* Marsellus Wallace - Pulp Fiction
* Michael Corleone - Godfather
* Mr. Burns - The Simpsons
* Mr. Darcy - Pride and Prejudice
* O-Ren Ishii - Kill Bill Vol. 1
* Phileas Fogg – Around the World in Eight Days (novel and film adaptations)
* Professor Moriarty - Sherlock Holmes antagonist
* Sherlock Holmes
* Reed Richards – the Fantastic Four
* Stewie Griffin - Family Guy
* Tom Hagen – Godfather
* V - V for Vendetta
* Vicious - Cowboy Bebop
* Victor von Frankenstein
* Vito Corleone – Godfather
* Willy Wonka – Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

[OneBadMother]

Reed Richards is definitely INTJ. One of the few superheroes who are INT, I think.

Not sure about Calvin, though. He seems more like an INFP.

[Henry]

Am I the only one who has ever heard of Joseph Campbell?

[Xenolar]

	Originally Posted by Henry
	Am I the only one who has ever heard of Joseph Campbell?

Hmmm...I never thought of including him on the list. Good choice. It's still possibly that he is an xNFJ, though. But he definitely has an xNxJ vibe. I'll definitely keep him on the waiting list.

Also, what do you think of Nostradamus? Perhaps also a candidate. He is almost certainly an Ni type.

[qwerty]

Yeah pretty sure
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is listed as infp on most sites...

[The Many]

Sartre (INFP) and Holmes (INTP) are probably not INTJs, along with Calvin then.

However, Andy DuFresne from The Shawshank Redemption is definitely an INTJ. Adolf Hitler may very well be one too - he is either INTJ or INFJ, which applies for Osama Bin Laden as well. Also, the Spanish philosopher José Ortega y Gasset, one of Sartre's main influences, was most likely an INTJ.

[deicruxified]

if anyone's reading the wheel of time, i do think moiraine sedai is an intj.

max stirner is an intj i think... the one nietzsche "plagiarized" according to some scholars

[deicruxified]

... and william of baskerville of umberto eco's "the name of the rose".

[AllAboutSoul]

It is kinda hard to see Katie Couric and Rudy as introverts. Maybe it's just me.
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[mind_wander]

Although this is not an INTJ category. But, it seems the inspirational 2pac Shakur is INFJ . I always wondering his words has emotional realistic views; which I can clearly see in my mind. Too bad he not around, but his music does lives on, til this day
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[The Many]

	Originally Posted by deicruxified To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	if anyone's reading the wheel of time, i do think moiraine sedai is an intj. max stirner is an intj i think... the one nietzsche "plagiarized" according to some scholars

I read up on Max Stirner simply due to you mentioning him, he appeared very INTP to me. An INTJ would have confronted his oppositions in a much more vocal way than he did.

[cielo market]

I love how you included cartoon characters :P

[orange]

I think that Mal (Malcolm Reynolds) from the show firefly is an INTJ. He is definatly and NTJ and that he refuses to open up to anyone and would rater live on a spaceship with a small group of people that have proven their worth and only associate with other people to get jobs and survive makes me think he's an I.

btw: if you haven't seen the show you should buy it on DVD and watch it (theres only 1 season). Its freeking amazing!

[Doppelbock]

	Originally Posted by deicruxified To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	... and william of baskerville of umberto eco's "the name of the rose".

Definitely. Good call.

DB (and GREAT book!)

[cielo market]

Has anyone seen "Once Upon a Time in Mexico?"
Agent Sands (Johnny Depp) has [some] INTJ qualities. It might be the sociopath thing, though.

[INTJoe]

	Originally Posted by The Many To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Adolf Hitler may very well be one too - he is either INTJ or INFJ, which applies for Osama Bin Laden as well.

Hitler a feeler!? lol. Doubtful. I'm pretty sure he made his decisions based on "logic", and not on satisfying people, but I'm really not that studied on Hitler above what we learn in H.S. and College.

Bin Laden may be an "F", as he seems to be about helping the destitute. Hitler was just a megalomaniac, though.

I never gave much thought to Michael Corleone/Don Vito Corleone/ and il Consierge from the Godfather series as INTJ's, but now that I think about it, Michael definitely is. Consierge may have been ISTJ or INTJ.

It's funny, I don't really "notice" INTJ's in movies or real life, but when someone mentions a name of an INTJ I will think backwards and realize that they are.

And why is it that ALL famous INTJ's are like these sociopathic, magalomaniacal, villains!? lol. That...sort of scares me... :O

[Henry]

	Originally Posted by Xenolar To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Hmmm...I never thought of including him on the list. Good choice. It's still possibly that he is an xNFJ, though. But he definitely has an xNxJ vibe. I'll definitely keep him on the waiting list. Also, what do you think of Nostradamus? Perhaps also a candidate. He is almost certainly an Ni type.

Campbell's definently an I; he spent 5 years of his life in a cabin in the woods alone and describes it as one of the best times in his life. That would kill a true E. T v F, you're right, although I think its a mild preference for T as a lot of his writings tear organized religion apart, most notably a religion that its not PC to criticize.

Nostradamus, clearly INTx, although I don't know him well enough to really comment on J v P.

	Hitler a feeler!? lol. Doubtful. I'm pretty sure he made his decisions based on "logic", and not on satisfying people, but I'm really not that studied on Hitler above what we learn in H.S. and College.

My thoughts exactly.

I think Hitler is intJ, and used the J to cut off any perspective that didn't fit with the existing perspective of the world. He was brillant (the one credible IQ estimation I've seen on him put him at 140-145, which is very, very high for a political leader), but when he started losing and should have tried new things, he just resorted to doing more of what originally worked, eg belligerent diplomacy, overproduction of very expensive weapon types in the hope that the enemy would have no answer, violence with top personel, etc.

Also, look at who Hitler promoted, especially when under stress: all Ts, mostly Ns Is and Js.

[mind_wander]

Originally Posted by INTJoe To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Hitler a feeler!? lol. Doubtful. I'm pretty sure he made his decisions based on "logic", and not on satisfying people, but I'm really not that studied on Hitler above what we learn in H.S. and College. Bin Laden may be an "F", as he seems to be about helping the destitute. Hitler was just a megalomaniac, though. I never gave much thought to Michael Corleone/Don Vito Corleone/ and il Consierge from the Godfather series as INTJ's, but now that I think about it, Michael definitely is. Consierge may have been ISTJ or INTJ. It's funny, I don't really "notice" INTJ's in movies or real life, but when someone mentions a name of an INTJ I will think backwards and realize that they are. And why is it that ALL famous INTJ's are like these sociopathic, magalomaniacal, villains!? lol. That...sort of scares me... :O

This is what hits me when reading this list of famous INTJ's:

* Angela Lansbury - actress (Murder, She Wrote)
* Arnold Schwarzenegger - actor, Governor of California
* Augustus Caesar - Roman Emperor
* C. S. Lewis - apologist, author (The Chronicles of Narnia) [heard of the guy, never watched the movie-now it makes me wants to watch it now]
* Calvin Coolidge - American President
* Chevy Chase - actor, comedian
* Dan Akroyd - actor, comedian, musician
* Donald Rumsfeld - former U.S. Secretary of Defense
* Dwight D. Eisenhower - American President
* General Colin Powell - former U.S. Secretary of State
* Greg Gumbel - TV sportscaster
* Hannibal Barca - Military Commander
* James K. Polk - American President
* Jane Austen - author (Pride and Prejudice)
* Katie Couric - journalist
* Lance Armstrong - cyclist (seven Tour De France wins)
* Peter Jennings - journalist
* Rudy Giuliani - former New York City mayor
* Sir Isaac Newton - Astronomer
* Susan B. Anthony - civil rights leader
* Thomas Jefferson - American President
* Woodrow Wilson - American President
* General Ulysses S. Grant – Union general, American President
* Friederich Nietzsche – philosopher
* Peter the Great – Russian tsar
* Stephen Hawking – astrophysicist
* John Maynard Keynes –
* John F. Nash Jr. – mathematician, game theorist
* Isaac Asimov – biochemist, science-fiction author (I Robot)
* Calvin – Calvin and Hobbes
* Clarice Starling - Silence of the Lambs
* Batman – Batman Begins
* Dr. Jonathan Crane - Batman Begins
* Dr. Otto Octavius (Doc Ock) - Spiderman 2
* Ellen Ripley - Alien
* Ensign Ro Laren - Star Trek: The Next Generation
* Ernst Stavro Blofeld - James Bond
* Gandalf - Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit
* Hannibal Lecter - Silence of the Lambs
* Jigsaw – Saw films
* Michael Corleone - Godfather
* Mr. Burns - The Simpsons
* Mr. Darcy - Pride and Prejudice
* O-Ren Ishii - Kill Bill Vol. 1
* Professor Moriarty - Sherlock Holmes antagonist
* Sherlock Holmes
* Reed Richards – the Fantastic Four
* Stewie Griffin - Family Guy
* Tom Hagen – Godfather
* Vito Corleone – Godfather
* Willy Wonka – Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

This entire list is either I've heard before or have seen the movies. It always make me wonder, why I am hooked on these films; their mostly INTJ's, go figures.

Replying to why INTJ's go insane, maybe the general public is not sure how INTJ's think and function.

[mind_wander]

In addition to: 2 pac Shakur:
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, who is an INFJ; very inspiring in his words, sure does touch me, internally.

[The Many]

Originally Posted by INTJoe To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Hitler a feeler!? lol. Doubtful. I'm pretty sure he made his decisions based on "logic", and not on satisfying people, but I'm really not that studied on Hitler above what we learn in H.S. and College. Bin Laden may be an "F", as he seems to be about helping the destitute. Hitler was just a megalomaniac, though. I never gave much thought to Michael Corleone/Don Vito Corleone/ and il Consierge from the Godfather series as INTJ's, but now that I think about it, Michael definitely is. Consierge may have been ISTJ or INTJ. It's funny, I don't really "notice" INTJ's in movies or real life, but when someone mentions a name of an INTJ I will think backwards and realize that they are. And why is it that ALL famous INTJ's are like these sociopathic, magalomaniacal, villains!? lol. That...sort of scares me... :O

INFJ:s and their emotions work in strange ways. For instance Ghandi once wrote that some black prisoners he spent time with when imprisoned in South Africa were little more than apes (or at least something like that). Remember that hate, anger and disgust are emotions too, just as love and appreciation are. In fact I know an INFJ myself who has stated things such as "I have worker blood in my veins" (literally - she identifies to the point of heredity), and "stupid people should not be allowed to have children". I think an F may very well have an easier time turning nationalist than a T, since the F decisions makes them relate to their emotions of kinship with their "race" or "nation" much more than the T does.

Not to mention that charisma of Hitler's, which is a very INFJ trait. On the other hand, there have been some charismatic INTJ leaders out there too, but INFJs are generally much more charismatic than INTJs. Admittedly though, Hitler may have been an INTJ having done flawed research as well - both are possibilities.

As to INTJs being scary villains... that's because we ARE scary villains. We are cold, detached and more than merely intelligent - and as I read somewhere, most fiction is really geared around maintaining a status quo, which is not an INTJ trait. Most Hollywood stories really evolve around an Evil Villain (INTJ) threatening the old order, so a nice guy (usually ESTJ or something like that) comes around to save it, then everyone is happy again.

[OneBadMother]

And you guys don't even have a P to balance it out. Though, come to think of it, most heroes are probably S, aren't they? Even the nerdy one. I guess that it's the mad, well-meaning scientist who gets to be INTP, like Doc from Back to the Future.

[mind_wander]

Originally Posted by The Many To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

INFJ:s and their emotions work in strange ways. For instance Ghandi once wrote that some black prisoners he spent time with when imprisoned in South Africa were little more than apes (or at least something like that). Remember that hate, anger and disgust are emotions too, just as love and appreciation are. In fact I know an INFJ myself who has stated things such as "I have worker blood in my veins" (literally - she identifies to the point of heredity), and "stupid people should not be allowed to have children". I think an F may very well have an easier time turning nationalist than a T, since the F decisions makes them relate to their emotions of kinship with their "race" or "nation" much more than the T does. Not to mention that charisma of Hitler's, which is a very INFJ trait. On the other hand, there have been some charismatic INTJ leaders out there too, but INFJs are generally much more charismatic than INTJs. Admittedly though, Hitler may have been an INTJ having done flawed research as well - both are possibilities. As to INTJs being scary villains... that's because we ARE scary villains. We are cold, detached and more than merely intelligent - and as I read somewhere, most fiction is really geared around maintaining a status quo, which is not an INTJ trait. Most Hollywood stories really evolve around an Evil Villain (INTJ) threatening the old order, so a nice guy (usually ESTJ or something like that) comes around to save it, then everyone is happy again.

So your saying, "ESTJ is always the hero", kinda screwed up here. I thought, INTJ are good people, at heart. See this is what happens in the minds of Hollywood stories by twisting the good imagines of INTJ's.

[Paul V]

My take on this matter is different. I believe that the INTJ is often misunderstood (I have explained why in another thread, I can quote it if you want me to), and that is a big no-no for stories. As it has been stated above, the audience needs to be able to identify themselves with the hero, and this is extremely difficult due to the lack of INTJs in the audience itself, and the fact that a typical INTJ is the polar opposite of the common person.

[Promethean]

I'm convinced that Cormac McCarthy (writer, National Book Award winner, Pulitzer Prize winner) is an INTJ.

1. He's a loner who does not give interviews or read his stuff in public (introvert, independent)
2. He does not hang out with other writers. Instead he hangs out with scientists, who he claims are more interesting (definitely NT)
3. His prose is very mythical and imaginative (introverted intuition)
4. He dropped out of college to write full time (independent)

Of course, there's always the possibility he's an INTP, but based on his prose style, I would disagree. It's indicative of introverted intuition rather than introverted thinking.

Any thoughts?

PS, this is the guy who wrote All The Pretty Horses, No Country For Old Men, and The Road

[INTJoe]

	Originally Posted by Promethean To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Of course, there's always the possibility he's an INTP, but based on his prose style, I would disagree. It's indicative of introverted intuition rather than introverted thinking. Any thoughts?

I don't really understand this "Introverted Intuition" as opposed to "Introverted Thinking". Please explain it to me. I know the INTPs are introverted thinkers but I don't understand what that means.