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Would you have sex with your sibling if no one found out?

Political orientation and whether or not you'd have sex with your sibling   36 members have voted

  1. 1. without getting too far into political specs- MOSTLY:

    • left - yes
      0
    • left - no
      12
    • in the middle - yes
      0
    • in the middle - no
      17
    • right - yes
      1
    • right - no
      6

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Posted (edited)

1 minute ago, Schubertslied said:

As much as you don't understand me, I don't understand why an earth you would decide to create such a thread.  

Like I said, this thread is not a simple yes or no poll material. 

It was actually a topic in my class where the answers were like this in the thread but no one could articulate why it was wrong other than "it's just wrong" (assuming no disease, no one found out, etc).

That's why I was curious to see others thoughts.

Edited by Cak

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Just now, Cak said:

It was actually a topic in my class where the answers were like this in the thread but no one could articulate why it was wrong (assuming no disease, no one found out, etc).

That's why I was curious to see others thoughts.

Maybe you could enlighten us with the result of your classroom poll.  

If you don't see anything wrong with it, by all means go ahead.  I won't stop you.  

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1 hour ago, Schubertslied said:

This thread is testing my patience, :nono:.

No amount of Netflix movie would ever convince me to vote up or down on this subject.

This is as wrong as things could possibly get. 

Yes.  The idea is gross.  But I beg you to ask the question why it is gross.  I don't suppose you find your siblings to be necessarily unattractive.  In fact, I would venture to guess that you prefer a mate who is in some way similar to your sibling.  

We've evolved a repulsion to the idea of sleeping with a sibling.  With good reason.  The most current theory to kinda explain it is that we evolved a sexual "repulsion" to people who we've seen nursed by our own mother, and/or raised by our mother...  Well, how else would one really know that the person is a sibling?  Also explains the idea of life-long friends as not being lovers.. 

But, that's somewhat off topic.  Would you sleep with your sibling if you knew it was your sibling?  I personally would not.  Unless there were a lot of money involved.  I think I could easily suppress my primal repulsion for the right sum of money.  

Basically, why is the idea repulsive?  The chance of creating deformed offspring?  We have ways of protecting against that.  With modern advances in birth control, it's actually more logical to think that siblings would sexually enjoy one another more than they would another partner..  Much more similarities.

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Posted (edited)

I have always looked for a mindmate in a sexual partner, not a soulmate, not a playmate, and not a helpmate.  My desire to think always preceeded my desire to physically pleasure myself. 

In my mind, this desire to seek physical pleasure is so strong, that you can't even step upside of your own home, so you get it from your own sibling in your own home is lazy, and sub human.  

 

 

 

Edited by Schubertslied

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5 hours ago, Schubertslied said:

Maybe you could enlighten us with the result of your classroom poll.  

If you don't see anything wrong with it, by all means go ahead.  I won't stop you.  

Pretty sure I never expressed my opinion on it, but to clear it up.

It is nasty it's gross it's wrong even if I don't know the people doing it - but I don't care if they do.

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3 hours ago, Cak said:

Pretty sure I never expressed my opinion on it, but to clear it up.

It is nasty it's gross it's wrong even if I don't know the people doing it - but I don't care if they do.

I am pretty sure I was referring to your classroom poll.  You did mention this was a classroom project.    

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4 minutes ago, Schubertslied said:

I am pretty sure I was referring to your classroom poll.  You did mention this was a classroom project.    

I was responding to the end of what you'd written where you  saido go ahead

The results of the classroom use your imagination for a room full of liberals 

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Posted (edited)

11 minutes ago, Cak said:

I was responding to the end of what you'd written where you  saido go ahead

The results of the classroom use your imagination for a room full of liberals 

You seemed to have left out a portion of the sentence where I said "If you feel", then, you decided to use a couple of words at the end of the sentence to respond this way.  It wasn't even a long sentence either.  

I would really like to hear more about your class discussion regarding this matter.  

Edited by Schubertslied

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1 minute ago, Schubertslied said:

You seemed to have left out a portion of the sentence where I said "If you feel", then, you decided to use a couple of words at the end of the sentence to respond this way.  It wasn't even a long sentence either.  

I would really like to hear about your classroom more.  

They stank, crumble up food wrappers, type notes on their computer loudly, jiggle their feet- can't sit still, not a single one of the fuckers. Cough obnoxiously with a half-assed coverup. Use the fucking elbow not the hand. Give all the "right" answers knowing full well they're just trying to jerk that professor off. Me? I ask all the hard questions. Like 'is it time for our break' or 'do we have class on July 4th.' I do the heavy lifting. Not them, those bags of filth,  me.

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Posted (edited)

Hah. I had this kind of talk with a couple of friends. It devolved into a friend saying she'd read somewhere that there had been a few cases of girls without a father growing up and eventually sleeping with their father because the both of them didn't know.

That devolved into: What would be more disturbing - sleeping with someone then finding out if, a) they are your biological parent, b) they are a biological sibling.

I picked parent. Though I still think sleeping with a sibling ain't right. Why? It's a gut feeling of not right, and there are always better options. And the other options don't come around for Thanksgiving and Christmas once things have ended.

Also. I have a step-sister my age and we never screwed. So, I'm the minority I guess. She's an INTJ as well. Hah.

Edited by WisePelican

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I can smell mental disease here

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You should read "Flowersin the Attic." This thread makes me think you would like it.

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No. ("In the middle")

1. No. 

2. Yes, a little.

3. Yes.

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On 5/17/2017 at 0:34 PM, Cak said:

Why is this so disgusting to us? Let's assume there are no health risks associated as a consequence of having sex with a family member.

If they are minors, this is a PTSD-inducing traumatic event that will fuck up their sexual psychology for decades to come.

If they are not minors, while it's not illegal, the risk to potential offspring is very dangerous.

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2 hours ago, eagleseven said:

If they are minors, this is a PTSD-inducing traumatic event that will fuck up their sexual psychology for decades to come.

If they are not minors, while it's not illegal, the risk to potential offspring is very dangerous.

It was implied that there are absolutely no negative consequences- total guaranteed contraception - also that both parties were consenting adults.

Junk did a pretty good job of explaining that what you have stated essentially is ingrained in us stemming from what you've explained even in the absence of such problems. So we can say it's repulsive - why is it repulsive in the absence of these things? It just is.

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40 minutes ago, Cak said:

It was implied that there are absolutely no negative consequences- total guaranteed contraception - also that both parties were consenting adults.

Junk did a pretty good job of explaining that what you have stated essentially is ingrained in us stemming from what you've explained even in the absence of such problems. So we can say it's repulsive - why is it repulsive in the absence of these things? It just is.

Likely for the same reason 99% are repulsed by the thought of sex with a parent. Or eating feces. Or poisonous insects. Or movement in the dark.

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We have instinctual repulsion to things that tended to harm our ancestors. I have no intellectual issue with two adult brothers who want to do it (there's even twincest porn out there), yet it still makes me a little squeamish.

 

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Posted (edited)

11 hours ago, eagleseven said:

the risk to potential offspring is very dangerous.

Although I couldn't find any research to back the claim, I still remember my genetics teacher mentioning that the dangers to children born of incest have been greatly exaggerated, which might be partially attributed to the inherent bias that incest is disgusting. Yes they're more likely to suffer from genetic diseases though in most cases this is only an issue over multiple generations, which would make sense considering that our modern gene pool would be more diverse when compared to earlier populations that were far more isolated. 

Without knowing the parents I don't see how medical science would be able to separate those born of incest from those that were not, and I think the greatest "risk" would be psychological in nature; the social shaming/ shunning that might occur if they were discovered, or even potential self-loathing if they were made aware of the circumstances of their conception.

Edited by Deprecator

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I've tried to reply to this thread many times, but even considering the issue grosses me out beyond belief to the point, I find it difficult to post my opinion. So in short, even if I could overlook the lack of any type of physical attraction at all, or the fact that our personalities piss each other off (misogynistic ENTP vs Not stereotypical INTJ female--both enneagram 8), the sheer gut wrenching memory of a smell when walking into his room when we were younger, or the amount of torture he put me through growing up together, is enough to make me sick at the thought. 

Even when thinking in a hypothetical scenario where I had a great connection with a brother or found them handsome. Well, I think it would be like any other family relationship, with a deep level of affection and respect, but ultimately pride and support would be the feeling. Not sexual attraction. 

So that's a big fat NOPE!

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On 2017-5-17 at 0:30 PM, Cak said:

Some non-poll questions I am curious to know about:

  1. Would you care if someone you didn't know had sex with their sibling?
  2. Would you care if someone you know had sex with their sibling?
  3. Would you care if your own offspring had sex with their sibling?

1. Overall, I would be disgusted but not care much. I would care a little more if I know they are having unprotected sex, simply because I would feel sorry if a kid comes out of that and it comes out with issues due to inbreeding. 

2. Yes 

3. Yes, in fact I would disown him/her along with the sibling. 

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