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Does anyone else hate social media?

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2 hours ago, Swamp Yankee said:

I understand your point - and I'm probably dating myself, but to my mind, internet forums and Facebook (etc.)  are just two examples of the same thing.  And you can choose the extent to which you participate.  Nobody held a gun to your head to make you buy the smartphone that now seeks to control your every moment....though I suppose that may be coming in the future.

Survival in modern society is damn-near impossible without using modern technology, all of which tracks you. Case in point: Walmart distributes new work schedules through their smartphone app. My employer requires smartphones for disaster-response alerts and paging for all ER personnel. 

 

With smartphones now costing less than pizza delivery...businesses now demand them. No smartphone, no job.

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Smartphones are cool devices though when you think about it. It's a shame that people mostly use them to look at porn and cat videos.

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But ... cat videos .... are so fun.

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10 hours ago, eagleseven said:

Survival in modern society is damn-near impossible without using modern technology, all of which tracks you. Case in point: Walmart distributes new work schedules through their smartphone app. My employer requires smartphones for disaster-response alerts and paging for all ER personnel. 

 

With smartphones now costing less than pizza delivery...businesses now demand them. No smartphone, no job.

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I get by just fine without a smartphone, as do any number of other people I know. 

I understand I might be in the minority, but certainly my minority (of people without smart phones) is larger than your minority of people that are employed on a "subject to call" basis and need to be available 24/7, and ,as such, need to have a smartphone as a requisite of their job.

And that small percentage of the population does not in any way explain the popularity of smart phones and the extent to which they have inserted themselves into our lifestyles.

That Walmart and other employers now have apps to send scheduling information to their employees is not an indication of the necessity of smart phones, it's an indication of their popularity. I seriously doubt that Walmart employees cannot make a simple call to get their scheduling information - or look at the bulletin board at work.

As I said, in the vast majority of cases, there's nobody forcing people to purchase and use smartphones....at least not yet. It's still a matter of choice.  As for smartphones being a condition of employment - a simple land line at the employee's residence would likely meet any requirement of the vast majority of employers. 

But if more people were of my opinion - that smart phones are not needed and are actually quite intrusive - then less employers would be making the assumption that everyone has one because less people would. And the world would perk along just fine without everyone spending their every waking moment with their eyes glued to a smartphone,

 

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I keep 2 emails:

1. Online Stuff

2. Offline Stuff

My online email of course I end with the year and deduct 60 years from it so I am regarded as some sort of time travelling Internet Baron from the dark ages. My email I keep for offline contacts it starts with an A for alphabetic priority.

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On ‎5‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 1:36 PM, thod said:

Just tell them that you don't have one. I genuinely do not own a cell phone so cannot give them its number. I have gone so far as make one up if the online form required it. As far as I am concerned, the barber is cutting my hair for the cash I give him, I don't give them any other information. I have known other people who cut themselves off. Thrown out the TV set, disconnected the phone, they seemed to be happier and have improved social lives because they would go out and talk to people for real.

Well this is the really troubling part to me. Freedom should not require us to avoid the modern world.

I'm really impressed by everyone's participation here, but I will say this site is social media. That us the reason I've been avoiding comment on all your wonderful thoughts.

One consistent theme I'm seeing in these replies is that we have to accept that it's necessary we accept it in the modern world. Smartphones required for employment, complete with GPS tracking, and cars that order laundry detergent for you, with or without your consent. Fear also seems to be a component of this topic. Shoving tho discussion into an odd and traumatic place in the larger context. Guns have been shoved in peoples faces over Facebook posts. I'm also quite confident tweets from our train wreck political leaders have resulted in unpublicized levels of violence. Finally, patriot act is still in effect. NSA and FBI started tracking information domestically in the 80's at the same time companies did. Plenty of social oppression, loss of life, and violence is coming with this convenience. I think we could have the benefit of the new technology without the fear propaganda that comes with it. It's a self defeating cycle anyway. Now its common place that I have to provide answers to personal questions to recover access to "secure" web domains. Often when I know the password is correct.

Finally, lets try not to forget that most of the population of this planet does not own a smart phone or computer and never will. We just don't think about the billions who go through there lives without technology. Why would we care about starving, dehydrated, and those without shelter when we have facebook, intjforum, presidential tweets, and smartphone monitored lives?

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18 hours ago, Dohavior said:

I keep 2 emails:

1. Online Stuff

2. Offline Stuff

My online email of course I end with the year and deduct 60 years from it so I am regarded as some sort of time travelling Internet Baron from the dark ages. My email I keep for offline contacts it starts with an A for alphabetic priority.

:laugh: I know the feeling of being an internet fossil - my personal email address has been the same since 1995, back when AOL charged by the hour for any internet access over 4 hours per month.

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So I have a secret social media just because a lot of my games require you have it now to back up your save data. Why you can't just use Cloud Save or back up to Google IDK, it probably has a lot to do with the marketing of the games. But I don't add anyone. it's literally there just for save data.

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In general, I use social media. It helps me to be in touch with my friends or relatives who live far from me. Also I've found another advantage of using socal sites for myself, that is getting free traffic to my website. I built a site using one of 14 feminine wordPress themes that look fragile and nice from Please login or register to see this link.  and in my opinion, it looks really good, but because of great interest of people to social media I couldn't attract enough customers to my site. So, I decided to do well out of this. Now I use social media for my work and it helps me on my way to success ;) Speaking about sharing personal information, noone makes you do it. You can go to the shop/market and buy everything you need. You can get together with your friends. It is your business. But I find social media useful, except for the unnecessary stuff that many people share there :cheesy: 

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Yes, a lot of people rant about it on social media :)

Seriously, I don't really hate it, but you do bring up good points. I don't think the initial reason for the information gathering is to spy on people though. Intelligence agencies have existed long before social media and they were surprisingly sophisticated. I think the reason is much simpler, namely money. Social media sites make money through targeted ads that get people to buy things. And the reason large companies are able to sell us so much stuff is because they can keep lower prices since most of it is mass produced using third world slave labor, but that's beside the point. I see this as a necessary evil, since social media websites need money in order to run. But they do bring a lot of benefits in providing information to us and connecting people. So I would that there are a lot of potential pitfalls and disadvantages that need to be managed, but that doesn't make the idea itself bad.

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If you mean Facebook, Twitter and the rest, no I don't hate the websites, I hate how much it interferes with peoples personal lives. I can see why people want to use them, but it is something I cannot do.

I don't find anything posted on there funny, relatable or interesting. I admire the ability to instantly spread news (and then you have the issue of fake news) and contact those you love without using your phone credit.

If you mean forums, I like forums. Forums are more categorised in what you want to talk about or whom you want to talk to.

I still get this feeling though that Facebook is a Pawn to pick out extremists and other dangerous people:

 

Mark Zuckerberg: "[I'm] going to change the world."

If it makes our world safer, then I concur.

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There are plenty of privacy options to control how personal information is accessible to other users. "Third-parties" mentioned in "Privacy Policies" aren't generally out to get you, but you can't expect the law not to interfere with such a criminally permissibe venue as social media. Social media are powerful tools for many things.

Little to fear with lawful companies unless you're really looking for trouble or you're too lazy to spend some time with the privacy/data settings.

I don't hate social media. I admire the concept and its capabilities. I'm eager to see how it evolves in the future, even though I barely participate in it.

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I don't hate social media, what annoys me is people bragging about their "awesome" life

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I hate it. 

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This^ makes it tolerable, but just a bit

 

 

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On 2017-5-15 at 3:35 PM, StarFox64 said:

I hate social media. All the negativity just makes my skin crawl. I like people less and less these days.

Exactly!

 
 
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YES , but for different reasons

- WASTE of time , effort , USELESS 

-tell me one thing u actually gained by having FB? losses more than gains ..and most of the pages u maybe interested in have websites so?

-I can't handle ppl knowing they are faking it 

-I feel exposed too

- I just like to be alone ...not all of the time , but I'm not gonna leave ppl only to see their faces and lives on the internet 

-I DO USE INTERNET a lot , but for my personal searches I only have one email ,ONE email for essential things , other than that I just made this account 

- essentials are necessary but I see social media as nothing more than rubbish , sorry ..all i see is bragging and will make u only not feeling well , u will find urself more not normal ...at all 

 

That is just my opinion !!!

 

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I do, I don't have any social media. I like forums like this though.

 

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Posted (edited)

It is useful for monitoring the tactics of others. Yet distasteful. If it was less political if would be a convenient time waster.

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Posted (edited)

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Social media are computer-mediated technologies that facilitate the creation and sharing of information, ideas, career interests and other forms of expression via virtual communities and networks. The variety of stand-alone and built-in social media services currently available introduces challenges of definition; however, there are some common features:[1] - Wikipedia

By definition isn't INTJf kind of a....'social media'?

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On 5/16/2017 at 7:05 PM, eagleseven said:

With smartphones now costing less than pizza delivery...businesses now demand them. No smartphone, no job.

If the lack of a smartphone was the only thing stopping a person from getting a job, it sounds like an opportunity for a court case by an enterprising lawyer.

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Social media bores the living shyte outta' me. Discussion forums are fine.

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I detest social media.  I recently quit Facebook again, and honestly cannot see myself going back.  Twitter is horrible, a scourge...

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I will vouch most of the people I've met that I really regret meeting all came from some form of social media or internet. Or people "looking up" stuff about me to try and "figure me out". Without actually talking to me and getting to know me. I think the people who truly care about me will make an effort face to face and the conversation will flow naturally.

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On 5/11/2017 at 3:23 AM, Major Chord said:

I doubt if anybody is really, really interested in your personal data unless, you know, you are a celebrity or election candidate or terrorist suspect or drug baron or something like that .....

True enough for today.
Problem is that what is once on the internet is always on the internet (or at least have a high potential to be so), and no one can predict future.
What if in the future you are going to end up in some authority position, that inevtiable has some media spotlight.

Or just choose end up in a career path that "should require a moral license", like a teacher - and then somebody leaks sensitive information, teachers have lost job for such stuff. One of my seniors at the uni worked as a minor porn actress a few years back, then some fancy pants googled it out and it led to her losing the membership of the political party which she was a staunch supporter (and member) of.
Or someone creates a legistlation that would require teacher to have all their previously viewed web addresses as public, in the way sex offender registries are public, and then one bad comment, or stupidly visited website could be the end of a career.

On 5/16/2017 at 5:01 AM, Exelone said:

Social media is a self-promoting data mine for most people..

and it's actually turned really slutty over the past couple of years.. 

That is what is completely off putting - i mean why would i voluntarily offer up personal information to anyone over whom i have no control over, and who doesn't have my best interest in mind?
(i couldn't care less for the "slutty" or "not slutty")

On 5/16/2017 at 11:14 PM, eagleseven said:

...it's a terrifying AI-controlled life.

 

 

In my humble opinion AI controlled life in itself isn't the main problem.
The core of the problem is the AI has no "loyalty" to you only to the given corporation. Not to mention the fact that hoarding of wealth is the only evolutionary selection criteria for companies, and i don't see this as the best motivation, for the owner of a system that attempts gain borderline omniscience (by data hoarding).

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