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RavenRawne

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About RavenRawne

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  • MBTI
    InTJ
  • Enneagram
    5w6
  • Global 5/SLOAN
    |R|xOEI
  • Astrology Sign
    Leo
  • Brain Dominance
    Right

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  • Location
    Warsaw, Poland (that country east of Germany)
  • Occupation
    Healthcare Administration
  • Interests
    Warhammer 40k, Ponies, Public Health, psychology, animals, history, my car, and some other things
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    Male
  1. To be exact, people believe that what they see in TV is true. Even if it's clearly too "beautiful" to be so (or cliche, as in your typical High School drama). They don't realize it's easier to make a short scene when a girl drops a book and a guy picks it up and suddenly love is in bloom, and ten minutes later (if it was written by some prude) they end up in bed, than shoot a hour long pursit from being aquaintances to friends and then, maybe, something more. In film everything is way faster than IRL, and relations are never awkward, unless it's deliberately played for fun. So yes, watching TV may lead to having nigh impossible standards for "good" conversations, and what it means to be friends.
  2. Nice to see some traffic in here, it just might turn out interesting. In order to adress your question, FurElise, I'll have to elaborate a bit more on the subject (sorry!). As I see it, every group of people will eventually spawn smaller circles of aquaintaces. it's inevitable. However, there seems to be a correlation between age and stiffnes of those circles. What I mean is, that adult students (18-26 y.o.) are more relaxed about all that "social hierarchy" thing. Sure, it does exist, but the "bottom" is not separated from the "top" by threats of violence, like in some teen student groups. Even if you're that person nobody's friends with, you can still interact with others, if you bring something to the table. It's more about how you can benefit the gropup, rather than how much you fit as a person (although being a jerk is still a no-go). Young adults generally have already developed their personalities enough to atleast tolerate people different from themselves (if they're hardcore metal fans and you have classical music all over your stuff they will atleast act neutral), so there's less friction from the start. Teens are still building their identity and may be very narrow minded when it comes to appreciating differences. As long as you're not a jerk, and carry your weight in class activities, you're game. However, many times it's not enough - unless you catch up with some likeminded people that is. You'll need to show them you want to socialize - let's be frank, not many people will share the history of their entire life with you because you've said "hi". You start from the position of weakness, since there's either an established order in the group or it's being formed now and you're lagging behind. No one pays attention to you if you're not socially skilled (and therefore successfull), show up at parties (or throw some) and/or fare good at classes (everyone wants to have a smartass to borrow notes from...). there's a special ruleset for rich people and "cool kids" - for some reason everyone and their dog wants to be on their good side, even if the're outright douches. So, to sum it up - the "status quo" exists in young adult classrooms, but it's way easier to shift your position, since all they ever care about is what you bring to the table (unless you're a terrible person). Now, if I may add something do Don 86's posts - teenagers are all about "living the dream". They see boring adults doing boring things all their boring lives and it's all just so... well, boring. They want something fresh and new, a McChange with a side of Freedom, and double dose of Awesomesauce with it. That's why hey get into subcultures, go to certain clubs and sneak into ink shops to get some rad tatoos. All this rebel energy is being fed with ideas by all surrounding media promising happines if you'll just dress like that and club over there. Teens want to be different, unique (because they still don't know who they really are) and loved for who they think they are, or want to be. Promise them happiness and they'll cut a person alive into confetti sized bits with a dull knife. So tell me, why a teenager on their very own and personal pursuit of happy live would even pause for someone they don't really know, and who's not in their social circle? Ain't nobody got time for idle chit-chat, y'know? Parties to go, friends to hang out with... Sure that guy/gal might be your next best friend waiting to be discovered, but unfortunately not many will go further if the first conversation doesn't turn out to be the BEST. POSSIBLE. THING! And thanks to TV, people think every conversation witch doesn't result in instant click and a sudden "where have you been all my life?!" is a waste of time.
  3. Hi! I have to post my response to you about the bystander effect here because administration deleted my thread (said it was advertising):

    Originally Posted by RavenRawne View Post

    Hi!

    I think you've made an interesting link between excluding some individuals from a group, and the mentioned bystander effect. Even though I think it's not the root cause, it surely can strengthen the established status quo.

    ...

    Back to topic at hand - for most students, the classroom is like a prison. Not literally, but there's the same social mechanic - you can't get out (unless you move to to a different school), and you're stuck with those people for a few years, so either you'll play like others or get kicked out of the field. And remeber about all those group projects - you can't roll all alone, even if you don't need help with grades you still need warm bodies to fill up space in your group.

    So, you're stuck in there and at some time will have to gather a party in order to complete a group quest... So, whenever you want it or not, you have to, ahem, make some friends!

    ...

    So that's the first case of "bystander effect" in action - you're not like us, so we don't want you. Simple and efficient. Quite understandable, actually.

    For the second case, we need to go back to the prison. You're stuck here, remember? So what happens if you're deemed "unworthy"? I mean - at some point you get the unfortunate attention of someone in a high position in the class (let's keep it simple - a bully that no one wants to upset and pretends to be best pals with, just to be left in peace) , and suddenly it's like you were the worst person in the class. No one wants to even talk to you out of fear, because stepping out of line will get them in the same position as you are.

    Well, been there, done that - I won't lie. Al you can do is assemble the Avengers... I mean, band with other mistits and try to make do. Who knows, maybe you'll establish a new group and rise up again.

    You've mentioned about benefits of looking around and reaching out to other people - while technically it's all true and might actually work, kids usually hold on to their groups rather tight, since it's a lifeline of sorts. Sure, one can have many friends, but what if your other friends see you with that lonely person and think you hang out with "losers"? You'll get kiced out! So, in my opinion, the primary cause of people being socially cut out in classrooms is the fear of rejection in those already established. Remember, kids can be cruel, for no apparent reason.

    ...

    Wow, nice wall 'o text I have here... Here's to hoping someone will find the time to read it.

    Hello, RavenRawne. Thanks for your response. Yes, I had considered the fear of becoming also an outcast as one reason for excluding the "misfits." Now my next question is thus: does this same "status quo" exist in adult classes (when the students are 18 years old and older)?

  4. Hi! I think you've made an interesting link between excluding some individuals from a group, and the mentioned bystander effect. Even though I think it's not the root cause, it surely can strengthen the established status quo. Although I come from a different place (got bullied in middle school, so no one wanted to be friends with me, and later I was too suspicious of others to even let them at arm's length), I had a fair share of first hand observations of classroom rejection. Thank the calendar I've finished my degree and won't have to go to classes again. Back to topic at hand - for most students, the classroom is like a prison. Not literally, but there's the same social mechanic - you can't get out (unless you move to to a different school), and you're stuck with those people for a few years, so either you'll play like others or get kicked out of the field. And remeber about all those group projects - you can't roll all alone, even if you don't need help with grades you still need warm bodies to fill up space in your group. So, you're stuck in there and at some time will have to gather a party in order to complete a group quest... So, whenever you want it or not, you have to, ahem, make some friends! Unfortunately, classrooms can be worse than parliaments - people make "parties" based on their similarities (the usual athletes, geeks and so on), and if there are no easy targets, you're missed out without a second glance. Some people make thair way into a group eventually, but others are forever left out, simply because they don't easily fit anywhere. So that's the first case of "bystander effect" in action - you're not like us, so we don't want you. Simple and efficient. Quite understandable, actually. For the second case, we need to go back to the prison. You're stuck here, remember? So what happens if you're deemed "unworthy"? I mean - at some point you get the unfortunate attention of someone in a high position in the class (let's keep it simple - a bully that no one wants to upset and pretends to be best pals with, just to be left in peace) , and suddenly it's like you were the worst person in the class. No one wants to even talk to you out of fear, because stepping out of line will get them in the same position as you are. Well, been there, done that - I won't lie. Al you can do is assemble the Avengers... I mean, band with other mistits and try to make do. Who knows, maybe you'll establish a new group and rise up again. You've mentioned about benefits of looking around and reaching out to other people - while technically it's all true and might actually work, kids usually hold on to their groups rather tight, since it's a lifeline of sorts. Sure, one can have many friends, but what if your other friends see you with that lonely person and think you hang out with "losers"? You'll get kiced out! So, in my opinion, the primary cause of people being socially cut out in classrooms is the fear of rejection in those already established. Remember, kids can be cruel, for no apparent reason. Oh, and the counselors... they're too busy dealing with "serious" cases to look after misfits. After all, you can't force someone to be friends. Although I think it wouldn't hurt if a counselor dropped by on the first day to say hi to the class. Atleast you'd know there's someone you can talk to. Wow, nice wall 'o text I have here... Here's to hoping someone will find the time to read it.
  5. I think "B" fits best for me. Even though my first asessment of a person is whenever they can pose a threat to me, I usually give everyone some base measure of trust, so they can know some things about me (although the amount of info shared depends on the circumstances, ofc). Over time, they may gain or lose trust, but everyone gets some points and a friendly response for a start. Unfortunately for some, I'm a very private person, so getting to know me requires a substantial gain in trust, compared to the base value. One important thing - if they lose my trust, it may not be regained. It's like, game over. All they'll ever get is a stare and some deadpan.
  6. Was there ever any doubt? It was not only awesome, but also, groundbreaking. Removing the Elements of Harmony (side note - the Princesses didn't seem to bother about loosing the most powerfull weapon of Ponykind...) is a crucial point for the Mane Six - will they manage to stay together, now when they don't have to be friends (I somewhat expect some drama, but eventually they will stick together)? Will Discord pop up every other episode and troll them, since they can't turn him into stone? Will Rainbow Dash suffer from depression since she's no longer the one and totally awesome bearer of the Element of Loyalty? Also, I really hope for some epic adventure episodes, since the box won't open itself! There's a new deck of cards in play, and only time will tell who will score the Poker. PS: if the thread dies again for several days, I apologise. I swear I don't know what I do wrong!
  7. Initial reaction after watching. Secondary reaction on the animation's flooding popularity Conclusions: not my kind of weird.
  8. There would be, if not for the intense grind. I made it up to Tier 9 in German tanks, and about 3-5 in all others, except for the Chineese. Personally, I think the game itself is very well made, both visually and gameplay-wise (especially with the new physics), BUT, the sheer amount of time one needs to spend grinding away for those top tanks, and impossibility of using them without Premium Account (I know it's meant to be that way) without loosing large sums per battle makes the endgame somewhat not worth the time. Ofc if one can spend considerable time in-game, and/or hooks up with a clan, it's just great. Lone casuals just wither away on higher tiers - and that's where the real fun lies. Not to mention playing with randoms in a pug kills the tactical role warfare aspect for good. Bottom line - if you have a fair amount of time to play and someone to team up with, it's a great game. Otherwise, it's a mixed bag.
  9. The concept of an INTJ geeking over some animated show for little girls can be... strange, to say the least. Creepy, maybe. But, you know, it happens, and the explanation isn't that simple - I came across dozens of theories and none fully satisfied me. I'll try to produce an explanation, however unperfect it will be. Suprisingly, it's a complex issue (atleast the way I see it), so keep in mind that I may, and quite possibly will be, wrong about some aspects of it. Oh, and one last thing - I apologize for the long post, but it tried to cover 3 years of pony history. So, as a starting point, we have ths: The way OP puts it, it IS counterintuitive. It's plain ridiculous, I daresay. Fortunately for those INTJ's who like the stuff, it's not because they're insane (atleast, they weren't when they first saw the show...). There are other reasons, and I'll try to cover them later. How it all started: That was "3 years in 3 minutes". I ommitted many events for the sake of keeping the narrative clear and understandable. Now, why do people like this stuff? Now you see why someone can possibly like the show. Not everyone sees the appeal, and that's ok. After all, it's just a show. Not worth bashing someone's head about it. If this imperfect explanation leaves you unsatisfied, please ask away, and I'll try to answer any inquiries as fully as I can. If anyone is interested, I can also post links to several sociological researches on Bronies. There's even a question about MBTI of Bronies who participated in one study.
  10. One could say: either you die a hero, or see yourself become a villain. About the Pony Monopoly - I'm kind of curious what would be in the cards. There's space for some funnies. And the "Jail" should be replaced with "Moon", but I think these fields aren't ever changed from the original. I am skeptical whenever this will ever become reality, but I don't think I would appreciate hearing bronyspeak from people who can't distinguish Pinkie Pie from Rainbow Dash. Fortunately, the social view on MLP helps a lot in keeping these individuals away.
  11. Many of you may be already aware, but, just to be on the safe side: BronyStudy have released another questionnaire. You may fill it in here. The survey may take even approximately 20 minutes, so take that into consideration when choosing the right moment for it.
  12. From reason unknown, I can't edit the previous post to add more content. So here's what I've found for You, Charmed Pop: http://chaoticbrony.deviantart.com/ guy makes some nice shinies, like replica of Alicorn Amulet. http://equestriaplush.deviantart.com/ the best plushies ever http://krowzivitch.deviantart.com/gallery/ some beautifull custom figurines (there are so many makers of those, linking every one would be counter-productive.) http://aridash.deviantart.com/art/Discord-Lamp-360091402 World Famous Discord Lamp. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV-OF9wZWDs&feature=player_embedded Animation from BronyDoc, could be useful to explain us to those who will see your presentation in a few minutes. We have a couple Internet radio stations, like Everfree Radio, Celestia Radio, Fillydelphia Radio or Everypony Radio. http://www.bronyhealthgroup.com/ interesting project, health and fitness with ponies. Charity initiatives are worth mentioning, to show that our fandom is something more. http://broniesforgood.org/ is a good example. Fan animations like Snowdrop and Double Rainboom are worth mentioning. I said a few words on music on the previous page, so you might look at that. Bronies made quite a few mods for various videogames, like Skyrim. The selection of PMVs on youtube is dazzling. New SFM ponies are awesome, too. they look like real. Oh, and don't forget the fics! There are also research papers on us, mainly brony census and brony study, but not only. Sadly, I couldn't find the Discord Statue that russian bronies made for John de Lancie (the one sitting on a table next to him during interview on Bronies: the Documentary), it was a masterpiece. Will you make a cover for that binder with pony art? I just had a funny idea for one... Interesting... Lack of funds? Call bronies! Although that tortoise is soooo cute! (even Tankette, my Russian tortoise sems to agree). I looked at Brony@Home yesterday, and joined World Community Grid and Majestic-12, for a start. The former works smoothly, but the latter gave my Avast antivirus a hiccup of virus reports, and it automatically starts up on logging in, so for now I uninstalled it. Is there a way to remove these obstacles? I'd like to participate, but virus pop-ups aren't exacly welcome (I know what happens, but my parents will likely panic once they see a red sea).
  13. Excellent idea, that presentation! You might check whenever there is something on those DA's that will catch your eye. Some art pieces are breathtaking. http://mysticalpha.deviantart.com/gallery/32806420 http://nastylady.deviantart.com/ http://huussii.deviantart.com/gallery/ http://inuhoshi-to-darkpen.deviantart.com/gallery/ Finding the maker of those famous wooden mechanical pony customs (the're featured in nearly every custom compilation on EQD) would be awesome, too. There are also coins, stained glass, and plushies (probably the best ones are made by equestriaplush, theyre on devianart). That's what I have for now. If I'll see something more, I'll add to this post, okay?
  14. I don't think they were referring to clopping. And, frankly, whenever makers knew about the phenomenon is irrelevant at this point. Ponies were invited to hit the viewer with a clear message: there is so much sex (in all possible degrees) out there in the media, that acual, resticted access porn pales in comparison, hence the appearance of Ponies (universally recognised concept of innocence and non-sexuality... atleast in eyes of the general public). It's more of a social critique rather than anything else.
  15. Oooh, SHINY! All Levels At Once has an interesting vibe to his music. On their own, the components o his music aren't that much of a blast, but combined, it's like liquid optimism. The merry tunes, light-hearted vocals, it's just an awesome cheer up. If You seek music made of distilled 100% pure awesome, check Aviators. Just an . This guy is widely recognised, and he deserves it.Other, not as well known artists I can think of are , , and Pipsqueak. But it's not even a tip of the brony musical Iceberg.Everything with vocals by Feather ( ) is gold, also.All in all, the quality of tunes produced by the fandom is really awe inspiring. Some instrumentals would make Hans Zimmer run for his money, and most original tracks are way better than what we are forced to listen on the radio. Maybe that's why I don't listen to any radio, just pony mp3's.