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  1. A UN report, multiple scientific studies, primary sources have "too much straw"? No. You just want to niggle a response from other people. Fine, you have your responses, now next time you go to the store, consider buying Organic produce.
  2. Title: Un report condemns Big Ag's tactics: millions of deaths are directly attributable. AKA second sentence: The Big Agriculture's tactics to sell farmers compressed nitrogen, pesticides, fungicides, herbicides, pelletized fertilizers, and other delicious things is killing soil, creating superbugs and superweeds, and of course these poisons are killing humans (and beggaring farmers while enriching chemical corporations). AKA rephrased: Millions of deaths are directly attributable to the tactics of large, corporate, chemical-focused agriculture, as reported by the UN; links found in Salon article provide primary sources, studies, trials, and proof. The above three statements are merely restatements of the articles linked. This means my post wasn't an infomercial, but reporting on information coming from the United Nations. The larger portion of my OP was neither restatements nor infomercial, it was rebuffing the typical types of arguments I get year after year on here when I try to talk about transitioning to Sustainable Agriculture. "Infomercial" is a new one, though.
  3. Here's the Salon story that links (at least) nine primary sources/articles. The Big Agriculture's tactics to sell farmers compressed nitrogen, pesticides, fungicides, herbicides, pelletized fertilizers, and other delicious things is killing soil, creating superbugs and superweeds, and of course these poisons are killing humans (and beggaring farmers while enriching chemical corporations). Instead of laying out the arguments supporting above, I'm going to diverge from this, my usual tactic. Let me just explain this point very simply. Farmers spray/drench fields with their poisons: pesticides, fungicides, herbicides. The air, water, and land is mostly sterilized. Then compressed, frozen nitrogen is sprayed out through nozzles forced under the soil: this absolutely kills anything left alive in the soil. Then they plant seeds, usually coated with more poisons, and continue to spray throughout the growing season, some of which are persistent throughout the plant itself. PARALLEL: using powerful antifungals, stripping soaps, and antibiotics on a human for years and years, then being surprised when the human just doesn't flourish. Microbiomes are essential on human skins and in our guts... and they are essential in our fields, too. Read the links if you want more info. Most of those who want to argue against my point won't read anything else, so let's address their points. I know what their points are, they've been the same for literally decades. But we need modern Chemical Agriculture to feed the world! You're just a silly luddite/you can't expect to feed the world by going back to ancient tech/other strawmen This doesn't affect me/why should I care/only ridiculous hysterical liberal wimmen like you give a shit/other ad homs If it were so bad for us, it wouldn't have worked/the Free Market would have already fixed this/other scoffing This is just so bad I can't think about it/How dare you force me to even contemplate yet another horrible doom thing we're facing/I feel helpless argh Actually, it's a really good thing. Imagine if people in the 1950's and 1960's had said "Hey, cigarette smoking gives you cancer! That's awful! Let's put some breaks on this poisoning." So many people would not have had to suffer and die, so many millions of dollars wasted on cancer treatment. Just think how many spontaneous abortions, malformed reproductive tracts, acute poisonings, and other horrid outcomes we could avoid -- while feeding more people at less cost -- if we just transitioned to sustainable agriculture. And you can help: buy Organic or even Transitionally Organic, even if only once in a while. Yes, that's all you need to do to help. :)
  4. Kids like to explore. Little kids (and everyone else who doesn't want to see sudden wang, frankly) are less likely to run into them if the urinal section is separate from the general public section.
  5. Just one unisex bathroom with stalls + one section with urinals + a sanitary/condom dispenser would be much cheaper actually. Who cares? Let people do what the fuck they want.
  6. Thinks of good thread idea Remembers/realizes what kind of responses it will get <10% Interesting, thoughtful replies >90% Negative/aggressive shitposts Decides to talk to people in real life about it instead Get 100% thoughtful replies, many of which turn into great conversations Reaffirm choice not be drowned in shitposts ... Postrate continually decreases.
  7. Because it sets us free. In the vast absolute winter of the universe, we are the only fire. Burn.
  8. For the obvious purposes of ending greedy land-grabbing and extortionist pricing, maybe. But it may have a different effect: to make one think of 'fair' and 'fairness' in games and in real estate. It's certainly making an impression on the people on this thread and those who know of the game's origins.
  9. Ooooooo. pictures?
  10. Fascinating thread. Monopoly was originally designed to show the shittiness of unchecked capitalistic land-grabbing. The two different sets of rules of the original "Landlord Game" give a great insight into what the creator thought; the posts in this thread give great insights into the posters' attitudes on fairness, monopolies, and capitalism.
  11. That's your choice. You could choose not to. The only ways that anyone cannot make changes in their life is in cases of abuse or slavery or a combination of the two. As much as they're let. Long-term relationships are agreements. Agreeing to sacrifice one's happiness and career for three kids is a choice, but not one I'd make. In fact, we were sterilized ASAP because we're Childfree by Choice. It sounds like you're terrified by choices without understanding the situation in which those choices evolve. That's like being afraid of being demoted or fired from your job before you've begun working at it. Cross that bridge later, and treat all the knowledge leading to it as learning opportunities, not horrible portents.
  12. Trader Joe's Concentrated Portabello Mushroom Soup. It's an emulsifier, will keep disparate elements whole even after freezing and defrosting... and it tastes DELICIOUS!
  13. I share you views and goals. I was only pointing out the definitions that literally everyone else uses, because words mean things. Suddenly you're accusing people of calling you "bigot" and "racist" and you're accusing me of having "propaganda"? When I merely posted definitions? I would have liked to discuss with you the various flavors of pro-choice and pro-lifers, which actually break down rather fascinatingly when you look at more nuanced data, but being immediately labeled like that lets me know that's not an option right now. I'd be glad to share them whenever you want; they seem to say that your views are actually quite widespread and you're not as alone as you might think.
  14. #5. Razor sharp.
  15. That's the definition of pro-choice.