[Chameleon]

Base INTP, with developed balancing thought funtions. Ability to adapt functions at will contingent on situation, with a lower energy loss on developed functions. Working towards an outer mask of an intuitive nature for a greater energy gain/use in social environments. Feeling goal of developing emotional scope outward in a more positive maner; with plan of action to start with a single individual to grow yourself so you can better help others, based on a deep sense of wanting to help others achieve towards their full potential.

[LiveNotOnEvil]

Originally Posted by Chameleon To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Base INTP, with developed balancing thought funtions. Ability to adapt functions at will contingent on situation, with a lower energy loss on developed functions. Working towards an outer mask of an intuitive nature for a greater energy gain/use in social environments. Feeling goal of developing emotional scope outward in a more positive maner; with plan of action to start with a single individual to grow yourself so you can better help others, based on a deep sense of wanting to help others achieve towards their full potential.

Honestly I don't care so much about other's potential as I do my own, as much as I dislike to admit it I'm rather selfish in that way. I seem to identify more easily with the INTJ stereotype than the INTP though because I'm not a very flexible person and tend to plan most things out in my head before I do them.

[Chameleon]

As do underdeveloped INTPs. (Not an insult)

[LiveNotOnEvil]

	Originally Posted by Chameleon To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	As do underdeveloped INTPs. (Not an insult)

I don't take is as one :P
But then how are you ever supposed to tell the different between an underdeveloped type and another type?
And what would then make one an INTJ? Considering planning and a disregard for others make one an INTP

[Chameleon]

Time will tell. INTPs do make plans, quite a bit of them. Only our plans remain open and flexible; when they do not work out we do not get upset; unless we are young, lol, tantrums. Also, the detachment from others that we go through is similar to INTJs; however, INTPs will eventually become very open caring individuals.

[LiveNotOnEvil]

	Originally Posted by Chameleon To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Time will tell. INTPs do make plans, quite a bit of them. Only our plans remain open and flexible; when they do not work out we do not get upset; unless we are young, lol, tantrums. Also, the detachment from others that we go through is similar to INTJs; however, INTPs will eventually become very open caring individuals.

That's precisely one of the reasons I connected with being an INTJ. Having my plans messed around with, even one's that only I consider important, bothers me and I am not a very flexible person. I'm not saying this to make a point, but to be honest. It's one of the traits people familiar with know me by, that and being stubborn and refusing to give a point up.

[Chameleon]

This is wonderful
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You fit my new theory perfectly. I am very excited; thank you. And yes, you can have the abilities of many types.

[LiveNotOnEvil]

	Originally Posted by Chameleon To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	This is wonderful To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. You fit my new theory perfectly. I am very excited; thank you. And yes, you can have the abilities of many types.

Interesting though that every site that I've looked at claims this as a direct INTJ result, hence why 3/4 of my MBTIs come out as INTJ. This is confusing me now
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[obnoxious]

	Originally Posted by LiveNotOnEvil To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Really? Um... - Cows like monkeys and penguins steal the sun. - I fight the people of stagnant republiville who miscellany...sasaabelehds *brain melt* - What time do apes come home from work at?

Maybe I'm reading too much into this but perhaps it's significant that all these random thoughts are focused on (Je) function, almost like your brain is used to processing all info in that way.

Cows? They like monkeys.
Penguins? Their function is stealin the sun.
Yours? Fighting people too focused on what, tradition?

etc etc


People here don't seem to appreciate subtlety

[LiveNotOnEvil]

	Originally Posted by obnoxious To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Maybe I'm reading too much into this but perhaps it's significant that all these random thoughts are focused on (Je) function, almost like your brain is used to processing all info in that way. Cows? They like monkeys. Penguins? Their function is stealin the sun. Yours? Fighting people too focused on what, tradition? etc etc People here don't seem to appreciate subtlety

Haha, Chameleon asked me to come up with something random so I just came up with something completely nonsensical and barely legible in some parts at that. It didn't actually happen to mean anything to me though, just a bit of fun, like stringing together the first combination of words that came to mind. Focused on a Je function making me an......INFP or something?
All info in that way? I do have random thoughts and background noise not infrequently, but I can still follow trains of thought if I so choose, such as I always do when I go for walks and am trying to solve a problem or plan something out.

[IncorrectLabel]

Dating is actually a useful tool. It is very strategic in essence if used correctly. You date, especially in this society, so you don't end up with someone you probably don't want to be around for extended periods. Your hormones will lie to you as well, don't give in to them. You must find the perfect balance of sexual attraction and life partner. In my opinion, dating is very INTJ...

[scorpiomover]

	Originally Posted by Moxiie To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Lot's of INTJ's I know test very, very low on J. I have this theory that many INTJ's are INTP's who have learned J functioning - they tend to be in academia.

In the last 40 years, academia has received a vast influx of people who want to be in it. It's become highly competitive, and very few areas are anywhere near as competitive. The typical easy-goingness and indecisiveness associated with P-ness in INTPs, would mean that when one was applying for an academic post, or an academic grant, one would be completely walked all over by the other J-like competitors, and they would get the job/grant, and not you. So to stay in academia, one gets crushed and pushed out, something that has happened to lots of people, or one either develops a very strong J side.

If the OP has learned to deal with competitive academia, then he may be an INTP, who has heavily developed his J-side. But if he embraced his J-ness and changed his attitudes to life, to be like Js, then from what I have read and garnered about Jung's works, Jung would say that he has changed type.

[LiveNotOnEvil]

	Originally Posted by IncorrectLabel To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Dating is actually a useful tool. It is very strategic in essence if used correctly. You date, especially in this society, so you don't end up with someone you probably don't want to be around for extended periods. Your hormones will lie to you as well, don't give in to them. You must find the perfect balance of sexual attraction and life partner. In my opinion, dating is very INTJ...

Yes I've thought that before and do agree with it, it's the only reason I've never put my thoeries into practice.

Originally Posted by scorpiomover To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

In the last 40 years, academia has received a vast influx of people who want to be in it. It's become highly competitive, and very few areas are anywhere near as competitive. The typical easy-goingness and indecisiveness associated with P-ness in INTPs, would mean that when one was applying for an academic post, or an academic grant, one would be completely walked all over by the other J-like competitors, and they would get the job/grant, and not you. So to stay in academia, one gets crushed and pushed out, something that has happened to lots of people, or one either develops a very strong J side. If the OP has learned to deal with competitive academia, then he may be an INTP, who has heavily developed his J-side. But if he embraced his J-ness and changed his attitudes to life, to be like Js, then from what I have read and garnered about Jung's works, Jung would say that he has changed type.

All I can say is I know people who are INTPs and they start one course, drop it, start another, drop it, go somewhere else, drop that etc. I, on the other hand, have been in the same field from my bachelors, through to my masters, through to another research certificate and possibly eventually through to a PhD (contigent on future circumstances). What do you consider to be "dealing" with competitive academia? Also, from what I keep hearing I would label the majority of people of this site as INTPs, so I'm curious what you consider an INTJ to be? Someone who at 2 years old plans their entire life and never deviates one iota from that plan?

[scorpiomover]

Originally Posted by LiveNotOnEvil To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

All I can say is I know people who are INTPs and they start one course, drop it, start another, drop it, go somewhere else, drop that etc. I, on the other hand, have been in the same field from my bachelors, through to my masters, through to another research certificate and possibly eventually through to a PhD (contigent on future circumstances). What do you consider to be "dealing" with competitive academia?

INTPs seem to differ quite largely from INTJs, in how they approach courses. INTPs generally are interested in pursuing courses to achieve a certain goal of competency in knowledge. They'll follow where their studies take them. If the next stage of learning for them, is a degree, they'll do that, and then if it's a PhD, they'll do that. If, however, they find that they have learned what they want to know, or that to follow their objectives in learning a subject, would require them to take an entirely different approach, they'll do that.

INTJs tend to be more interested in learning to fulfil their goals. So an INTJ mght decide that being a doctor is a good career choice, and then will follow through all the way.

So it really depends on WHY you did your PhD. Did you continue studying, becuase you felt that you had not learned enough about your chosen field of interest, and that was the best way to gain more knowledge of the subject? Or did you choose to continue, because that would help you in your life goals, say, in your future careers?

	Originally Posted by LiveNotOnEvil To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Also, from what I keep hearing I would label the majority of people of this site as INTPs, so I'm curious what you consider an INTJ to be? Someone who at 2 years old plans their entire life and never deviates one iota from that plan?

Actually, INTPs tend to be very good planners as well, but they plan in a very different way. INTPs set up a system of internal organisation, that does the planning for them. As things change, they adapt the system to new circumstances. They very rarely drop their systems, as it tends to take a loooong time for them to develop any sort of organisational system or plan at all. They just let their systems evolve.

INTJs actually plan, as a form of action. They devise a plan, and then, as soon as they see an advantage to changing their plan, they devise another plan, and then another, and then another. A key point here, is that INTJs usually verbally refuse to change their plans in any way. When circumstances change, they just change to a new plan.

Another way of looking for INTJs versus INTPs, is that they tend to talk like their functions. INTPs seem to start out by pointing out the criticisms and problems, and then follow up with potential solutions that solve those criticisms and problems. INTJs here seem to start by stating their position/theory, and then follow up with arguments that support their theories, and dismiss other competing theories.

[LiveNotOnEvil]

Originally Posted by scorpiomover To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

INTPs seem to differ quite largely from INTJs, in how they approach courses. INTPs generally are interested in pursuing courses to achieve a certain goal of competency in knowledge. They'll follow where their studies take them. If the next stage of learning for them, is a degree, they'll do that, and then if it's a PhD, they'll do that. If, however, they find that they have learned what they want to know, or that to follow their objectives in learning a subject, would require them to take an entirely different approach, they'll do that. INTJs tend to be more interested in learning to fulfil their goals. So an INTJ mght decide that being a doctor is a good career choice, and then will follow through all the way. So it really depends on WHY you did your PhD. Did you continue studying, becuase you felt that you had not learned enough about your chosen field of interest, and that was the best way to gain more knowledge of the subject? Or did you choose to continue, because that would help you in your life goals, say, in your future careers?

I did my bachelors to get a job as a programmer, when I couldn't get one I decided to go on doing a Master's to have a better qual behind me. During that time my supervisor was a lecturer in one of my courses and encouraged me to do a PhD. I liked the idea of doing a PhD because it sounded good, I would get paid (scolarship basis) to do it and it would allow me to do R&D for a company if I chose to, which I liked the idea of. I still enjoy and did enjoy the learning while I was doing all of this though.

Originally Posted by scorpiomover To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Actually, INTPs tend to be very good planners as well, but they plan in a very different way. INTPs set up a system of internal organisation, that does the planning for them. As things change, they adapt the system to new circumstances. They very rarely drop their systems, as it tends to take a loooong time for them to develop any sort of organisational system or plan at all. They just let their systems evolve. INTJs actually plan, as a form of action. They devise a plan, and then, as soon as they see an advantage to changing their plan, they devise another plan, and then another, and then another. A key point here, is that INTJs usually verbally refuse to change their plans in any way. When circumstances change, they just change to a new plan.

I guess I had trends of both, but may be a bit closer to INTJ on that one.

	Originally Posted by scorpiomover To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Another way of looking for INTJs versus INTPs, is that they tend to talk like their functions. INTPs seem to start out by pointing out the criticisms and problems, and then follow up with potential solutions that solve those criticisms and problems.

Yet that seems to be exactly what the INTJs on INTJf do from what I've seen, interesting isn't it?

	Originally Posted by scorpiomover To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	INTJs here seem to start by stating their position/theory, and then follow up with arguments that support their theories, and dismiss other competing theories.

I'm closer to INTP on this point tbh, however I also do what INTJs do if I am starting out an argument. It depends on the situation and the context. If I find a flaw with/don't like what someone else is proposing, then I will tell them that it is wrong and why. On the other hand, if I am making an assertion I will begin by stating my claim, back it up with evidence and explain why it is valid. If someone criticises this I will respond by explaining why their theory is wrong and mine is right (if that happens to be the case) but if the evidence for my point isn't there then it just isn't there. Regardless I typically don't need to back down from assertions I make.

[obnoxious]

No, it would point to xNxJ, and if you're sure of introvert then we're down to INxJ. By Je I'm refering to extroverted judgement, either Fe or Te. I understnd it was random, but I'm saying it's curious that despite the randomness, you were still identifying the objective (or extroverted) function of various things... you even specified that 'sasaabelehds'' function was to indicate a brain melt. This natural way of regarding info (what does it do?) would be indicative of an xNxJ temperament, again if I'm not reading too much into it.

[LiveNotOnEvil]

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No, it would point to xNxJ, and if you're sure of introvert then we're down to INxJ. By Je I'm refering to extroverted judgement, either Fe or Te. I understnd it was random, but I'm saying it's curious that despite the randomness, you were still identifying the objective (or extroverted) function of various things... you even specified that 'sasaabelehds'' function was to indicate a brain melt. This natural way of regarding info (what does it do?) would be indicative of an xNxJ temperament, again if I'm not reading too much into it.

That just makes it even more confusing because I have a fair few people telling me I'm an INTP, so how am I supposed to decide?

[obnoxious]

Don't listen to the people describing simple HUMAN behaviour within the model of personality theory as defined by shallow archetypes.

And the ones who are like doctors who refuse to believe that two illnesses can prdocue the same symptom.

For starters

[LiveNotOnEvil]

	Originally Posted by obnoxious To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Don't listen to the people describing simple HUMAN behaviour within the model of personality theory as defined by shallow archetypes. And the ones who are like doctors who refuse to believe that two illnesses can prdocue the same symptom. For starters

Yes but I would like to know what type I would be most closely affiliated with and I know there's no value in me just assuming I must be INTJ. Regardless, most of the users on this forum have more experience with the types than I do myself, thus I feel they are better qualified to make a judgement call if I offer a synopsis of my personality and traits. To me this is the best evidence I have to go on at the moment, which as I know is not absolute, nor do I except it to be, but it would be nice to have some solidarity on the issue.

[scorpiomover]

Originally Posted by obnoxious To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

No, it would point to xNxJ, and if you're sure of introvert then we're down to INxJ. By Je I'm refering to extroverted judgement, either Fe or Te. I understnd it was random, but I'm saying it's curious that despite the randomness, you were still identifying the objective (or extroverted) function of various things... you even specified that 'sasaabelehds'' function was to indicate a brain melt. This natural way of regarding info (what does it do?) would be indicative of an xNxJ temperament, again if I'm not reading too much into it.

INFJs are very similar to INTJs, in that they both have Ni theories all the time, However, where they differ, is that the INTJ theories tend to be more impersonal, often specialising in theories about things and thoughts, like physics, while INFJ theories specialise about people and emotions, like psychology. This difference, also leads to differences in their personal lives. INTJs tend to be focussed on what they want, including with a partner. INFJs tend to be very willing to bend over backwards for their friends and family, and even more so with a partner.

Originally Posted by LiveNotOnEvil To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I did my bachelors to get a job as a programmer, when I couldn't get one I decided to go on doing a Master's to have a better qual behind me. During that time my supervisor was a lecturer in one of my courses and encouraged me to do a PhD. I liked the idea of doing a PhD because it sounded good, I would get paid (scolarship basis) to do it and it would allow me to do R&D for a company if I chose to, which I liked the idea of. I still enjoy and did enjoy the learning while I was doing all of this though.

VERY Te. Very INTJ-ish.

	Originally Posted by LiveNotOnEvil To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Yet that seems to be exactly what the INTJs on INTJf do from what I've seen, interesting isn't it?

I was talking about how INTJs and INTPs new posts and new threads, without reference to an existing conversation.

	Originally Posted by LiveNotOnEvil To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	On the other hand, if I am making an assertion I will begin by stating my claim, back it up with evidence and explain why it is valid.

That's how INTJs start new threads, and propose new ideas.

	Originally Posted by LiveNotOnEvil To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	however I also do what INTJs do if I am starting out an argument. It depends on the situation and the context. If I find a flaw with/don't like what someone else is proposing, then I will tell them that it is wrong and why.

That's how INTJs tend to respond, using Te. They lay out arguments that other people are likely to accept.

INTPs tend to point out some complicated reasoning, that often makes sense only to the INTP, that explains why the INTP doesn't personally accept what the person is proposing, but with the proviso that it might be perfectly valid for everyone else. Ti.

	Originally Posted by LiveNotOnEvil To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	If someone criticises this I will respond by explaining why their theory is wrong and mine is right (if that happens to be the case) but if the evidence for my point isn't there then it just isn't there.

Key word there, evidence. Te arguments formulated using Se objective evidence.

INTPs use logic to form their deductions. Evidence is simply data that is used to help calculate.

	Originally Posted by LiveNotOnEvil To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Regardless I typically don't need to back down from assertions I make.

INTJs typically never back down from the ideas they propose.

[Dancingqueen]

Do you talk to yourself out loud to organize your thoughts? Do you need to keep moving as you think? Do new connections/ideas proliferate as you say your thoughts outloud?
Te =INTJ

Do you go quiet when you think? Do you speak only after you've articulated the entirety of your thought in your head? Do you organize your thoughts internally?
Ti=INTP

[LiveNotOnEvil]

Originally Posted by scorpiomover To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

INFJs are very similar to INTJs, in that they both have Ni theories all the time, However, where they differ, is that the INTJ theories tend to be more impersonal, often specialising in theories about things and thoughts, like physics, while INFJ theories specialise about people and emotions, like psychology. This difference, also leads to differences in their personal lives. INTJs tend to be focussed on what they want, including with a partner. INFJs tend to be very willing to bend over backwards for their friends and family, and even more so with a partner. VERY Te. Very INTJ-ish. I was talking about how INTJs and INTPs new posts and new threads, without reference to an existing conversation. That's how INTJs start new threads, and propose new ideas. That's how INTJs tend to respond, using Te. They lay out arguments that other people are likely to accept. INTPs tend to point out some complicated reasoning, that often makes sense only to the INTP, that explains why the INTP doesn't personally accept what the person is proposing, but with the proviso that it might be perfectly valid for everyone else. Ti.

I can come up with weird reasoning that only makes sense for me. But for the puposes of argument I use a smother out the flames approach, which is typically universally logical. What that basically means is to: "Surround the opposition's arguments, contradict their (flawed) assertions by providing logically contradictory assertions, as supported by evidence. Then explain overall how this makes their theory fall apart and why it is doesn't work. If they argue back then you merely keep providing evidence to their new arguments which will inevitably have to rest on their old arguments, until the flames are completely smothered and they have no where to go." That's basically the gist of how I conduct myself in arguments, but then again I've noticed most people on this forum do the same.

	Originally Posted by scorpiomover To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Key word there, evidence. Te arguments formulated using Se objective evidence. INTPs use logic to form their deductions. Evidence is simply data that is used to help calculate. INTJs typically never back down from the ideas they propose.

So I'm just some weird hybrid INTP/INTJ?

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	Originally Posted by Dancingqueen To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Do you talk to yourself out loud to organize your thoughts?

Yes, both when walking and when at home, though I'm fairly adept at moving my mouth very little when I talk and stopping as people go past, so they don't think I'm some crazy sociopath.

	Originally Posted by Dancingqueen To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Do you need to keep moving as you think?

Yes, I often pace around my room when trying to solve complex problems, or go sit outside at nightime.

	Originally Posted by Dancingqueen To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Do new connections/ideas proliferate as you say your thoughts outloud?

I'm not sure on this one, but it's kind of easier for me to talk out loud when I'm thinking because I'm used to it at this point, but I don't do it all the time, just often when solving problems.

	Originally Posted by Dancingqueen To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Do you go quiet when you think?

No, as this contradicts what I already mentioned.

	Originally Posted by Dancingqueen To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Do you speak only after you've articulated the entirety of your thought in your head?

Around other people I usually think about what I'm going to say before I say it and scan it for whether it's worth saying/will be offensive or not etc. When I'm by myself and solving a problem I just naturally talk to help me deal with it.

	Originally Posted by Dancingqueen To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Do you organize your thoughts internally?

Elaborate please.

Your propositions are interesting, because I was always under the impression that it was INTPs that jump the gun and do things bit by bit, whereas you're making it seem like the exact opposite.

[obnoxious]

Originally Posted by scorpiomover To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

INFJs are very similar to INTJs, in that they both have Ni theories all the time, However, where they differ, is that the INTJ theories tend to be more impersonal, often specialising in theories about things and thoughts, like physics, while INFJ theories specialise about people and emotions, like psychology. This difference, also leads to differences in their personal lives. INTJs tend to be focussed on what they want, including with a partner. INFJs tend to be very willing to bend over backwards for their friends and family, and even more so with a partner. .

No see you're still looking at symptoms and making useless generalized statements. If it isn'rt accurate to say all psychologists are NFs and all scientists are NTs (even the important ones in their respective fields) then don't bother saying it at all.

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I can come up with weird reasoning that only makes sense for me. But for the puposes of argument I use a smother out the flames approach, which is typically universally logical. What that basically means is to: "Surround the opposition's arguments, contradict their (flawed) assertions by providing logically contradictory assertions, as supported by evidence. Then explain overall how this makes their theory fall apart and why it is doesn't work. If they argue back then you merely keep providing evidence to their new arguments which will inevitably have to rest on their old arguments, until the flames are completely smothered and they have no where to go." That's basically the gist of how I conduct myself in arguments, but then again I've noticed most people on this forum do the same. So I'm just some weird hybrid INTP/INTJ? .

And people would chalk that up to Ti and call you INTP, when given everything else about you it's clear you are an 'INTP/INTJ hybrid', aka INFJ..


A lot of Ti heavy things you may read or hear are coming from INFJs with Ti fetishes, the discerning notes are the unmistakable intrusions of NiJe

[LiveNotOnEvil]

	Originally Posted by obnoxious To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	And people would chalk that up to Ti and call you INTP, when given everything else about you it's clear you are an 'INTP/INTJ hybrid', aka INFJ.. A lot of Ti heavy things you may read or hear are coming from INFJs with Ti fetishes, the discerning notes are the unmistakable intrusions of NiJe

Again, we're moving into a domain in which it would be impossible to call anyone anything, because it seems Fes are heavy thinkers, so there is very little to differentiate them from a Ti. Maybe it's just that no one knows the types well enough to offer any kind of precision on the results?

[obnoxious]

	Originally Posted by LiveNotOnEvil To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Again, we're moving into a domain in which it would be impossible to call anyone anything, because it seems Fes are heavy thinkers, so there is very little to differentiate them from a Ti. Maybe it's just that no one knows the types well enough to offer any kind of precision on the results?

No not at all, you just need to keep an eye out for subtlety so you can see how one arrived at their conclusions.



As an example, an INFJ could develop absolutely impressive use of Ti if said INFJ had an interest in science (Ni). His NiFe way of looking at things would allow him to see what scientists expect (logic and empirical support) and this would be what guides him as he learns to apply Ti to his natural Ni thoughts.


This would be different from an INTP with the same interest, as an example.