[Black Fire]

I doubt that there is such word as 'stupidest'.

Anyway, I don't think that this question can be answered. The type of the person doesn't tell anything about his intelligence. For example, INTJ is considered to be smart. Yet he could be less intelligent than ISFJ (or any other type) because ISFJ puts more effort into developing his/her own intelligence.

[curiousgeorge01]

Originally Posted by Tejeira To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

The winner??? ISFP The "Artisan" type. They piss people off all of the time. WAY too emotional. TOTALLY irrational. Horrible with money. Bad in school. They mean well for the few select people that they choose to like, but everyone else? They offend. Or irritate. Most Rationals can't stand them in my social groups. That's what I've noticed. At least ISFJ and ESFJ can put one foot in front on another, and get tasks DONE. They aren't brilliant, but they can be successful in a concrete way, and they are extremely reliable. The ones I know don't do fantastic in career, but they hold their own.

My brother dated an ISFP and she was a mess. I dated an ISFJ and she was a mess. Just from that alone I would say ISFx is the hardest for me to get along with. As for stupid? Dunno. Might appear stupid but can't say for sure.

On the other hand I find most ENFPs I meet to be airheaded valley girlish whether they're a male or female. Not necessarily stupid just make me roll my eyes a lot.

[jetplane48]

Orrrrrrr, maybe guys...I miscalculated and believed that you people would perceive my viewpoint as totally rational. Yet again, I am stumped. Maybe I believed the NT to be a ruthless, non feeling type at all. I have MBTI all skewed up. Now I believe the NT to be reflective and just a robust thinker, in any case, I am wrong. Although, I still am settled with my opinion which is ISFJ or ESFJ...or at least xSFx.

[Dominus]

the "ruthless, non feeling type" are generally referred to as sociopaths, to a certain extent every (normal) person feels emotions. To my understanding the MBTI only measures whether you make decisions primarily based on your emotions or logical ability, not whether you feel emotions or not.

[Ender]

	Originally Posted by Dominus To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	the "ruthless, non feeling type" are generally referred to as sociopaths, to a certain extent every (normal) person feels emotions. To my understanding the MBTI only measures whether you make decisions primarily based on your emotions or logical ability, not whether you feel emotions or not.

You're right on the mark on the first point, though it's a little more nuanced in regards to the second. I wouldn't say it's that decisions are based on emotion or logic more - it's more like the structure of how situations are assessed has a unique perspective for each type. INTJs actually involve Fi in their decisions a lot, though I think some of them are wont to admit it.

They just tend to process the world through an intuitive-rational lens (in that order). ENTJ is similar, but is more like rationality bolstered by intuition. I'm not familiar with the NTPs, but that's how NTJs look in my experience. The idea I'm getting at is that the MBTI is easier to describe as a model of how the world is processed and assessed; decision-making definitely plays a role, but it's easy to confuse the terminology when that gets involved, considering that rationals make decisions based on emotions all the time.

Here's a nonsense hypothetical to illustrate the point. You exit your home and a stranger comes up to you and says that your entire family is dead. (This is assuming that you live with your family.) The reactions would likely look something like this:

INTJ (leads with Ni + Te) - Wait, what? This really seems like bullshit to me.
ENTJ (leads with Te + Ni) - I just saw my family a minute ago and nothing has changed since then. Therefore, you are full of shit. GTFO mah face.
ENFJ (leads with Fe + Ni) - Oh my god, how could my family be dead, this is terrible. But it doesn't make a lot of sense. But I mean, what if they are. Oh god how am I gonna live without them.

Basic idea is that the situation evokes a rational response from the T, while it evokes an emotional response from the F. (Initially, that is.)

Disclaimer: These examples are made to illustrate a point and may or may not represent the actual reaction of the majority from a particular type in such a situation.

[anarkandi]

An intelligent ESFJ or ISFJ would kick your butt anytime at whatever. o.o

[scorpiomover]

I gather than MBTI is not about intelligence, but about approaches to thinking. Not the amount, but the HOW.

[Evil Muffin]

I believe the title of this post is wrong. It's not about intelligence, as many have already stated. It's about wisdom.

In that case, in my opinion, there are great gaps between each type.

In general, after several years of focused observation of the human species, I have come to the conclusion that the least wise are the SJs, while NTs are the most wise.

(It has nothing to do with me being an INTJ. It's completely irrelevant. It's just what I have concluded through my observation on people everyday in my life)

[Zero11]

Subjective (with cognitive bias): xSFJs and ISFPs (FSNT) the introverted ESFJs

Objective: There is no type that is more intelligent/stupid than the other.

[scorpiomover]

	Originally Posted by jetplane48 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	and he hates learning and taking the time to do something correctly when he can just half-ass it and get it over with.

Sounds very efficient. If you ask me, this Darrel friend is a really smart guy.

	Originally Posted by jetplane48 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	he takes time to think about things but his Ne kicks in and he says moronic things without thinking about it...really bugs me.

And yet, you are still his friend, and out of the 6 billion humans you could choose to spend time with, and not be bugged by, you still choose to be friends with him, and continue to be bugged by him. Remind me again, who exactly is the stupider one of the two? The one who says moronic things, or the one who chooses to sit there and listen to it?

	Originally Posted by Arguendo To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I remember that Jetplane48 formerly had ISFP in his profile months ago.

That is just too funny. I'm creasing my sides laughing here. I can barely type.

Thanks, jetplane and Arguendo. I don't think I've laughed so much in ages.

[Moxiie]

This is the goofiest thread - there are stupid NT's and stupid NF's and stupid SJ's and stupid SF's and also brilliant ones of each type.

What was the point in asking this question?

[Mayu]

If you think he is so hopelessly stupid, why do you still stick around and be his friend? Out of pity?

[anticlimatic]

Pointless thread perpetuation through chest thumps of indignation and statements of the obvious!

[jetplane48]

Originally Posted by scorpiomover To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Sounds very efficient. If you ask me, this Darrel friend is a really smart guy. And yet, you are still his friend, and out of the 6 billion humans you could choose to spend time with, and not be bugged by, you still choose to be friends with him, and continue to be bugged by him. Remind me again, who exactly is the stupider one of the two? The one who says moronic things, or the one who chooses to sit there and listen to it? That is just too funny. I'm creasing my sides laughing here. I can barely type. Thanks, jetplane and Arguendo. I don't think I've laughed so much in ages.

I think you're just bustin my balls here buddy. Obviously, my friend darrel is a natural. Although I do mean it lightly, it is because it takes him a bit longer to process information than MOST people do (ie. that is the premise I see him as, xSFJ). Then again, you're just an icon online a forum, your advice means nothing, neither do your subtle insults.

[sunitaishot]

ESFPs.

they cannot seen to conceive there are other thoughts. their conception is not the totality of humanity.

[demaugustus]

ENTJ's . . . We're pretty @#$%'ing stupid.

You can quote me on this next time we have a debate on something in this forum.

[A2Rick]

How is it impossible to objectively test people of every type to see a variance in iq? If it was done would you believe the outcome would be perfectly equal or so insignificant that it was meaningless? I'm not talking myself up or down to others for that matter but seriously. YES all types are important in their own way. I do not see myself as a supperior human. I am positive some types are generally dumber.

[BoringTuna]

	Originally Posted by jetplane48 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Finally, some real input. Well then, I guess this all justifies my actions. I suppose I am really an ESFP or ISFP with mismatched functions thinking I was INTJ or whatever that is. Maybe I'm just a bad friend and a bad person in general To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Ironically I would have picked ESFP as fitting your bill of 'least intelligent type'. But I think it's illusory.

The ESFPs I know aren't less intelligent per se, but they are definitely less rational/curious. The rational/curious temperament facilitates deeper understanding; if there seems to be an intelligence gap up to NTs I think it is a side effect of their temperament rather than the processing power of their brains. I knew a PhD lawyer who talked about nothing but other people's shitty daily lives. It baffled me until I realised that personality has this effect on apparent intelligence.

[Mayu]

Originally Posted by Tejeira To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

ISFP The "Artisan" type. They piss people off all of the time. WAY too emotional. TOTALLY irrational. Horrible with money. Bad in school. They mean well for the few select people that they choose to like, but everyone else? They offend. Or irritate. Most Rationals can't stand them in my social groups. That's what I've noticed. At least ISFJ and ESFJ can put one foot in front on another, and get tasks DONE. They aren't brilliant, but they can be successful in a concrete way, and they are extremely reliable. The ones I know don't do fantastic in career, but they hold their own.

I have an ISFP friend who could score Taxation Law paper easily while I keep flunking it (note: it's the only subject which I'm bad at for gods know what reason) so, yeah, not all ISFPs are bad at school. Nevertheless, I do agree with you with their irrationalities, overly emotional outbursts and sometimes, insensitivity towards others (even though they themselves are rather sensitive people). The same friend I was talking about complained to me a few days ago about her career setbacks. She has been doing something of similar capacity for the past 4 years in 3 different companies and yet, she has never been promoted or received any career progression opportunities. Her pay has pretty much been stagnant since she started working and her mother has been criticizing her for not being as successful as her peers (namely, me).

[dplt]

Originally Posted by Mayu To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I have an ISFP friend who could score Taxation Law paper easily while I keep flunking it (note: it's the only subject which I'm bad at for gods know what reason) so, yeah, not all ISFPs are bad at school. Nevertheless, I do agree with you with their irrationalities, overly emotional outbursts and sometimes, insensitivity towards others (even though they themselves are rather sensitive people). The same friend I was talking about complained to me a few days ago about her career setbacks. She has been doing something of similar capacity for the past 4 years in 3 different companies and yet, she has never been promoted or received any career progression opportunities. Her pay has pretty much been stagnant since she started working and her mother has been criticizing her for not being as successful as her peers (namely, me).

I had several ISFP friends in my junior high and only one seemed pretty intelligent (always top ten in the class). But then she decided to drop out and go to fashion design school. She was remembered not by her intelligence though, but by her unique artistic appearance. However, she was just one of them, the rest are mostly good at music or graphic design. But all of them almost always appear lazy at most times.

[irun10ks]

I'm going with ESTJ. They lack innovative ideas and shut down others that have innovative ideas. However, they are not averse to chit-chat and being the instigators of office politics and division to get ahead. It may not merit the lack of intelligence, but a lack of vision, introspect, and innovative tendencies. I think if an ESTJ actually had a radically new and innovative idea that changed the world, or at the very least their specialty, the world would stop spinning.

[what yeah okay]

I'd have to go with the circlejerk of posters in the Gender and Attraction subforum, regardless of type. Though it does seem funny that most are (supposedly) INTJ, because it explains why they engage in 20 page arguments while having completely different definitions of the words they're arguing about, as they have not bothered to define their terms.