[jtskinner]

Is it just me or is society going to hell on a freight train? The laws of intellectual property are slowy dying but now the phoenix rises from the ashes, and the greedy corporations are targeting the most mainstream means of copyright violation with DRM technologies. They will eventually take away our right to share software code, and anything over a network. This is wrong, what is happening to free speech! The internet should remain neutral, but nowadays we are being watched and silently controlled. We can't let them take our right to share and our right of free speech. The planet is melting, people are dying in a pointless war, and the TV is lying and people are believing these lies. We need to take a stand to stop this before it's too late, before no one thinks anymore, before we have a dystopia society were everything is controlled. What if copyright spreads into science or mathematics? Then what! What an age to live in, I feel angered by society right now. We truly need to fix it.

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Society needs to change before it's too late. Death to intellectual property, death to censorship, and death to government.

[GOD]

Originally Posted by jtskinner

Is it just me or is society going to hell on a freight train? The laws of intellectual property are slowy dying but now the phoenix rises from the ashes, and the greedy corporations are targeting the most mainstream means of copyright violation with DRM technologies. They will eventually take away our right to share software code, and anything over a network. This is wrong, what is happening to free speech! The internet should remain neutral, but nowadays we are being watched and silently controlled. We can't let them take our right to share and our right of free speech. The planet is melting, people are dying in a pointless war, and the TV is lying and people are believing these lies. We need to take a stand to stop this before it's too late, before no one thinks anymore, before we have a dystopia society were everything is controlled. What if copyright spreads into science or mathematics? Then what! What an age to live in, I feel angered by society right now. We truly need to fix it. Here are some links: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. There is one resource on my website, it's not put there for self-promotion! To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Society needs to change before it's too late. Death to intellectual property, death to censorship, and death to government.

I need some popcorn.... Mmmmm..

I've got Intellectual property in a number of countries... what you're talking about is far less than what the corps do when they let their lawyer dogs onto you...
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There's me.... against 3 floors of their lawyers.... But IP is very sharp... David has a new tool against the Goliaths.

[blueback]

	Originally Posted by jtskinner
	the greedy corporations are targeting the most mainstream means of copyright violation with DRM technologies. They will eventually take away our right to share software code, and anything over a network. This is wrong, what is happening to free speech!

Technically only the government can violate our right to free speech. *Corporations aren't government actors so they are not required to allow that freedom. *It used to be that it was so hard to create things like art, music, and programs that they protected themselves. *You can't distribute copies of the Mona Lisa because the original is completely unique. *However, today you can have powerful enough programs on your computer to create music that would have taken an entire studio and a dozen musicians 10 years ago. *Records were unique, mp3's aren't. *The format that valuable things are delivered in now can be copied with no loss of quality or functionality, and because they can be created by anyone with the know-how and the time, the perceived value is greatly decreased.

The world, at least the developed world, is moving into a new paradigm. *We are becoming a hive mind. *Why should I buy an entire set of Encyclopedia Brittanica's when I can find the information for free in seconds? *It used to be that finding and compiling and disseminating information was valuable labor. . .that is quickly becoming not-the-case. *In the future information will not be valuable. *Information will be assumed. *What people do with information will be valuable. *Take Cirque Du Solei, for example. *That circus is INCREDIBLY profitable because modern people want to see amazing things happen. They don't want to see a video of it, they don't want to see an animated cartoon, they want to see real human beings actually doing it. That is why concerts still make so much money, even as people are stealing digital music. They have the music, yeah, but it only satisfies to a certain extent. What they will pay money for is seeing the music created right in front of them and they will be willing to spend the money they didn't spend on buying their individual copy of the music.

	Originally Posted by jtskinner
	The internet should remain neutral, but nowadays we are being watched and silently controlled. We can't let them take our right to share and our right of free speech.

We don't have a right to share. *Freedom of speech is only designed to protect our right to establish a dialogue about new ideas so that we can hold government accountable, it's not designed to allow us to communicate anything we want. *For example, you can't tell "fire!" in a crowded theatre, you can't insight someone to lawlessness, etc. *Along those lines, you can't freely disseminate someone's intellectual property.

Besides, I don't want to pay to access websites. So, by default, I want to access websites for free. Maybe even access the internet for free. You can't stop the signal. But nothing is free. The people who run websites don't care about the content, so they are giving something they don't care about away. What they are getting in return is information to sell to advertisers. I don't care if the website gathers some demographic information about me. We are trading things we don't value. I can get a lot of information on the internet just by providing my email address. In return I get all sorts of advertisements in my email address. I get the nugget of information I wanted and they get a chance to turn me into a customer. We both benefit.

If someone provides something for free then it belongs to them, not you. They can do anything they want with it. You might cry foul because you had gotten used to having that free thing, but they have no responsibility to continue to provide a service they aren't making a profit on.

	Originally Posted by jtskinner
	The planet is melting, people are dying in a pointless war, and the TV is lying and people are believing these lies. We need to take a stand to stop this before it's too late, before no one thinks anymore, before we have a dystopia society were everything is controlled.

This is another topic. *What you are doing here is exercising your right to free speech by communicating a worthwhile message. *If instead you had posted the source code to Microsoft Office you wouldn't have it protected by freedom of speech.

	Originally Posted by jtskinner
	What if copyright spreads into science or mathematics?

Well, the government can control things like that with laws. *The laws are currently structured to protect private property because doing so encourages innovation. *Things like copyright and patents are a promise from the government to the citizen that if they create something brand new they will have an opportunity to get rich. *Encouraging people to create new things, by legally protecting their right to exploit it for profit, is why the US is the world's only superpower. *

I doubt that the government will support the idea of allowing individuals to turn publicly available information, like math, into private property. *On the other hand, applications of things like math are private property. *If I am smart enough to figure out an encryption algorithm that is brand new I deserve to own it at least long enough to get rich off of.

[The Rose]

	Originally Posted by jtskinner
	... Death to intellectual property...

Since I am a songwriter, I appreciate being paid for my work. I don't like it when people don't pay for my work.
That is stealing.

[blueback]

	Originally Posted by The Rose
	Originally Posted by jtskinner ... Death to intellectual property... Since I am a songwriter, I appreciate being paid for my work. I don't like it when people don't pay for my work. That is stealing.

If you had a garage sale would you leave a hat in the middle of the driveway and expect everyone who wandered by and took something to put the money they owed you for it in the hat?

That is what you're doing when you distribute unprotected copies of your songs. Because copying it results in two identical songs there is no inherent incentive to not copy it. I suggest you focus on live performances, because those will only increase in value in the future.

Whether or not it's wrong to take something that someone else left lying around is moot. The point is that people will take it. If you don't want to accept a certain percentage loss then don't leave things lying around.

[Paul V]

Errrrrr... I think the government is being excessive in the use of these copyrights, yes; but I don't believe that we should be extremists ourselves and go straight to anarchy.

The world has survived on balancing the diverse forces that pull or push it towards a certain direction. I think we should try to find the balance in this, like allowing the Laws of Intellectual Property, but up to an extent.