[Nemesis]

	Originally Posted by stasis To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	The Dominion of New England shall rise again.

It will thrive as the world's foremost exporter of clam chowder and smug.

[Arcanist]

	Originally Posted by thod To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Union swine. Excellent. I am not sure where The Union is (being a stinking foreigner), but comparison to pigs is understandable. However isn't is Muslims and Jews that hate pigs? If they already have the pig angle, do you wish to ally with them? Not sure how to stereotype residents of Wyoming. My first thought was the hill-billy, but it lacks hills. Did they have cowboys there?

We have budget surpluses and we execute gay people. You'd like it.

[JTG]

The US isn't as divided (regionally) as popular memes would have you believe. While the notion of "red states vs blue states" rings true in presidential elections, this is largely because of the divisive nature of the electoral college. This system makes it seem like an "us vs them" conflict (which it is in some ways) with an emphasis on local differences, which seems to instill a variant of nationalism that emotionally bonds some people to their state/region rather than the nation as a whole.

If looked at under a non-polar lens, we actually look a lot more uniform across the board. Non-polar doesn't drive up the ratings though.

In other words, you see maps like this on the news:

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From politicalmaps.org: 2008 electoral vote distribution


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not maps like this:

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From wikipedia: 2008 United States presidential election results by county, on a color spectrum from Democratic blue to Republican red


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[Arcanist]

	Originally Posted by Nemesis To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	It will thrive as the world's foremost exporter of clam chowder and smug.

Actually, I'm originally from that region and it's the introvert's heaven. Wyoming is sort of an introverted place too but strangers talk to me. Not so in New England, where everyone keeps to themselves and views other with wary suspicion.

[peppersasen]

red states can move to Mexico.

[thod]

Well I am not moving to WY then. I want my female slaves to perform homosexual acts on each other without someone stringing them up. I assume you have slavery out there or have the liberals got to WY too?

[mieu]

	Originally Posted by stasis To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	The Dominion of New England shall rise again. (right wing flute music)

God save the queens

[Arcanist]

	Originally Posted by thod To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Well I am not moving to WY then. I want my female slaves to perform homosexual acts on each other without someone stringing them up. I assume you have slavery out there or have the liberals got to WY too?

Hahaha, this state will be red forever more. There is no point in even voting in the Presidential elections because the electoral votes will go to Romney by a huge margin.

[Ghostwheel]

Is this the historical source of America's so-called "culture wars?"

Conservative Southern Values Revived: How a Brutal Strain of American Aristocrats Have Come to Rule America America didn't used to be run like an old Southern slave plantation, but we're headed that way now. How did that happen? June 29, 2012; "Information Clearing House" By Sara Robinson It's been said that the rich are different than you and me. What most Americans don't know is that they're also quite different from each other, and that which faction is currently running the show ultimately makes a vast difference in the kind of country we are. Right now, a lot of our problems stem directly from the fact that the wrong sort has finally gotten the upper hand; a particularly brutal and anti-democratic strain of American aristocrat that the other elites have mostly managed to keep away from the levers of power since the Revolution. Worse: this bunch has set a very ugly tone that's corrupted how people with power and money behave in every corner of our culture. Here's what happened, and how it happened, and what it means for America now. [....] For most of our history, American economics, culture and politics have been dominated by a New England-based Yankee aristocracy that was rooted in Puritan communitarian values, educated at the Ivies and marinated in an ethic of noblesse oblige (the conviction that those who possess wealth and power are morally bound to use it for the betterment of society). While they've done their share of damage to the notion of democracy in the name of profit (as all financial elites inevitably do), this group has, for the most part, tempered its predatory instincts with a code that valued mass education and human rights; held up public service as both a duty and an honor; and imbued them with the belief that once you made your nut, you had a moral duty to do something positive with it for the betterment of mankind. Your own legacy depended on this. [....] Which brings us to that other great historical American nobility -- the plantation aristocracy of the lowland South, which has been notable throughout its 400-year history for its utter lack of civic interest, its hostility to the very ideas of democracy and human rights, its love of hierarchy, its fear of technology and progress, its reliance on brutality and violence to maintain “order,” and its outright celebration of inequality as an order divinely ordained by God. [....] Link: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. .

[INTelliJent]

If the US fractured, I see the North East/Rust belt, the South, and Texas/Oklahoma (maybe a couple of other nearby states to the north) each forming their own regions, with the Southwest going to Mexico, and Canada potentially picking up the northern plains states and the PNW.

[thebrainpolice]

I don't really care for the South, but it isn't fair to pin everything on them. I've spent the vast majority of my life in Pennsylvania and I can assure you all that racism and homophobia are alive and well north of the Mason-Dixon line.
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are by no means confined to the South.
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[Storm]

The anti-climax of the Imperialistic age creep upon us.

[larkin]

	Originally Posted by Urshulgi To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	If you're going to be condescending, you could at least list some positive exports that don't involve polluting the minds/ears of the world, or destroying the economy. [...] I'll help you out. Perhaps you could begin by talking about the tech start up scene in NYC.

I reject any preconditions for condescension.

But, you know, manufacturing, exports, pharmaceuticals. Twice as many of the country's best hospitals and three times as many that are ranked. Almost half the country's top law firms. The largest economy of any metropolitan region in the country, twice as large as the second largest in the US (LA) and the second largest in the world, behind only Tokyo. And actually, the tech start-up industry there is worth about $9.2 billion - which is larger than the entire tech industry of Houston.

Hey, there's always Enron and Oil. Oh, and the south shall rise again. Any day now.

	Originally Posted by INTelliJent To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Balkanization of the US looks inevitable in the long term.

Not necessary. Let the current Republican party suffer a painful, humiliating death so a new conservative party can be formed, one not based on racism and theocracy with a stranglehold on the south. That party can truly be multi-regional (and hopefully, truly conservative, but hey, one step at a time.)

[INTelliJent]

	Originally Posted by larkin To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Not necessary. Let the current Republican party suffer a painful, humiliating death so a new conservative party can be formed, one not based on racism and theocracy with a stranglehold on the south. That party can truly be multi-regional (and hopefully, truly conservative, but hey, one step at a time.)

I'd rather see a real liberal party. You know, a classically liberal party. The Libertarian party isn't quite there or relevant.

[Ray9]

My world is pretty small. I live in New Hampshire and I hate those southerners in Massachusetts.

[Nemesis]

I never knew America hated itself as much as it hates the rest of the world until reading this thread.

[Ray9]

	Originally Posted by Nemesis To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I never knew America hated itself as much as it hates the rest of the world until reading this thread.

America hates the rest of the world? Does that mean we can cut the foreign aid?

[Ghostwheel]

	Originally Posted by Ray9 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	America hates the rest of the world? Does that mean we can cut the foreign aid?

Foreign aid is, in large part, used by the governments that receive it to buy armaments from U.S. weapons manufacturers.

It's a corporate subsidy disguised as do-gooding charity.

If you want to cut it, I'm there bro. What do you say? Ghostwheel and Ray9 together against the lobbyists of the military industrial complex.

We can yell "Spartaaaa!" as we charge into battle.
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[INTelliJent]

Foreign Aid is taking money from poor people in rich countries and giving it to rich people in poor countries (except in the case of Israel. Then it's going to rich people in a rich country).

[Ghostwheel]

	Originally Posted by INTelliJent To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Foreign Aid is taking money from poor people in rich countries and giving it to rich people in poor countries.

That too.

So they can "buy" projects from Western businesses that will serve the needs of their own elites at the expense of their own populace, who are left footing that part of the bill that wasn't U.S. subsidized.

What does that last part spell?

A-U-S-T-E-R-I-T-Y!

[Ray9]

I don't know what to say. I'm baffled. We all seem to be in agreement on foreign aid.

[Kisai]

	Originally Posted by Ray9 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	America hates the rest of the world? Does that mean we can cut the foreign aid?

And annex Canada, take its natural resources, rename it New New Jersey, then let it secede.

[Ray9]

What natural resources does Canada have besides whores and hockey players?

[Nemesis]

Tho thenthitive.

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	Originally Posted by Ray9 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	What natural resources does Canada have besides whores and hockey players?

Where does your oil come from, Ray?

	Originally Posted by Ray9 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	My world is pretty small.

No argument here.

[dungeonguy88]

	Originally Posted by Nemesis To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Where does your oil come from, Ray?

Hmm...

I mean, yes. Canada is pretty much the U.S.'s top supplier of oil, and it probably has a glut of relatively untapped resources in it's expanses, but...is Canada known for it's whores?