[gigglingToilet]

i'm writing this wearing all black, including by chance my underwear. (or wearing nothing at all, if that strikes your fancy.)

every day people get dumber and meaner. every day i have less respect for everyone. i have these unwanted visions or fantasies of becoming a serial killer, but even if i could stomach murder it wouldn't change the fact that everyone is stupid.

maybe you're the problem. maybe it's not that people are stupid. you just don't tolerate people.

but where do you draw the line? call me arrogant, but i simply don't make the kinds of mistakes other people do. i'm not a genius. hell, i flunked out of college.

it's your attitude that's the problem. not the rest of the world.

fine, but what am i supposed to do about it? stop valuing competence? be content with hearing the same old jokes, pretend i give a rat's ass about nonsense social rituals, and pretend i'm an extraverted feeler when i'm an introverted feeler? please understand me.

really, though, why can't people stop and consider my feelings for once? INTJs are some low, single-digit percentage of society at large. is it insane to say we're as legitimate a minority as gays or non-whites (in the US)? please tell me it ain't so. i would rather the problem be my attitude. in fact, i think it is. but how can i change my attitude while holding on to my values?

“If you feel irritated by the absurd remarks of two people whose conversation you happen to overhear, you should imagine that you are listening to a dialogue of two fools in a comedy.”

—Arthur Schopenhauer

arthur, teach me how to laugh.

[mieu]

ugh me to lets go smoke a joint or something w/e

[Espadrille]

Let go of caring about what other people think, say or do.

Pay attention to not being mean and dumb yourself.

Let go of wanting other people to care about your feelings, by figuring out why you need them to do so.

[superflax]

didn't read the OP. I just hate everyone too.

A joint would be nice mieu, don't mind if I do
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[AlfredSchnittke]

If you are one of those that smokes joints to placate your mind you should be able to relate quite well with roughly 80-90% of the population at this point.

So it's not clear why you would hate them.



Anyway, the solution is just to be happy being alone. Why aren't you happy being alone?

Alternatively realize that reality is a joke, exactly what Schopenhauer is alluding to, and things become a bit more tolerable. However, this quickly backfires when you try interacting socially as everyone else takes every god damned thing so fucking seriously...most people harbor this illusion that they aren't going to die, and it basically means they have a permanent stick shoved up their ass.

[Faux hawk]

I once had a postcard that said,"I hate everyone.". I saw it more as a stance against hatred. People who choose to hate based on an arbitrary fact or surface attribute. Hatred can come in so many forms. The most dangerous is the underlying hate that's secretive with it's intent. I think anything that separates us into categories based on these surface traits can fall prey to such subversive hatred. I prefer my haters loud, dumb, and out in the open. It's the quiet sneaky hatred that scares the piss out of me.

[politea]

I recommend to change the place.
Go to another country which language you don't speak.
You'll have to start from the bottom.
You will not understand when people will talk abut stupid things.
You will feel stupid because you don't understand anything so your confidence level will go back to normal. Even you'll need those stupid people to help you so you will start tolerating them again.
You won't be bored.
Or you can just become deaf and problem solved.
Here is what I've realized:

If I would want to blame people who don't know that they don't know I would have to hate myself for who I was yesterday.

Good luck and don't kill anyone please. That would put you in the category of people you hate so much.

[davai]

	i hate everyone

The one I of a thousand tiny I's hates and some others love. What is one I to do when the others rally against it? Perhaps they'll realise in turn, that a master I beyond the clouds of this way or that, compulsion or not compulsion, deals in unabsolutes in some far off land just listening to the rabble. The rabble of course have no time for that nonsense. There's hatin' to be done, and they'll make you do it too.

[ppu6502]

Haters gonna hate, best of luck with that

[Arcanist]

Yeah, OP. The vast majority of people are crap and really not worth the time. If you're in America then they're fat crap.

Expect nothing, trust no one, remain neutral. That way, you get to be pleasantly surprised when you come across someone that acts with a minimum of decency.

[John01]

	Originally Posted by gigglingToilet To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	...but even if i could stomach murder it wouldn't change the fact that everyone is stupid. ...call me arrogant, but i simply don't make the kinds of mistakes other people do.

I think I've found something here.

[gigglingToilet]

Originally Posted by AlfredSchnittke To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Anyway, the solution is just to be happy being alone. Why aren't you happy being alone? Alternatively realize that reality is a joke, exactly what Schopenhauer is alluding to, and things become a bit more tolerable. However, this quickly backfires when you try interacting socially as everyone else takes every god damned thing so fucking seriously...most people harbor this illusion that they aren't going to die, and it basically means they have a permanent stick shoved up their ass.

In fact it may be deleterious to march around thinking "I am smart! Everyone else is dumb!" People are stupid and it does nothing to affect their lives. There are a lot of dumbass old people. Sometimes you research a problem and the solution pops up quickly.
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is one of those.

Bottom line: if I analyze the reasons behind people's stupidity I'll find they have legitimate reasons

[Grave]

OP, aside from that, how's your life? Does this contemplation of the people that surround you ruin your chance at a good life? I think you can manage without them, or perhaps without contemplating their indecency, since it just so happens that every time you take your own perspective on people you get filled with hate, unless you enjoy the feel of your own hate.

[Axel]

People being stupid is great. It let's me get away with; "not really trying", and still win.

[BobtheINTJ]

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	please understand me.

This one segment of your OP stood out to me. I had been looking for this book "Please Understand Me" by David Keirsey and Marilyn Bates. It is a book about Character and Temperament Types with portraits of the 16 different types. I suspect you may have actually been referring to it in your OP - if not, read the INTJ portrait. We should be proud of our characteristics and temperament!

At any rate, thanks for reminding me to find the book - it was on the third floor of my barn - buried in a box of other books. It deserves a better place and I'm going to re-read it. It is no coincidence the book it entitled "Please Understand Me"!

And - easy on the fantasies!

[Zsych]

@gigglingToilet: Are you looking to us to suggest a course of action?

Start by finding an Oxytocin supplement - check Amazon.

Unfortunately, you can deny / reject your way into your own world that's divorced from reality. Which may not be a problem if we were always right, but unfortunately, its difficult to always be right or even know what context to use to understand things.

Also, personal growth and even understanding yourself, is all about situations you had not expected that you don't know how to deal with well, that make you think and review things.

Plus, you will unfortunately find that no matter how great you are - often enough, you don't succeed. You can blame other people, but in reality, you could have anticipated and possibly worked around some of their weaknesses, or taught them stuff, or helped motivate them... or any number of things that could have brought overall success... thus the failure of the group, is also your failure. Unless you have low standards of competence, the potential for greater awesomeness is in front of you. Why not work towards becoming someone you would consider really amazing?

[HWSNBN]

	Originally Posted by politea To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Here is what I've realized: If I would want to blame people who don't know that they don't know I would have to hate myself for who I was yesterday.

Stole the words from my mouth.

[BuShinJu]

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	but what am i supposed to do about it? arthur, teach me how to laugh.

It may be hard to see but mixed in with the hate is a lot of compassion or desire to see change or desire to want to change things. This is a good thing as it means there is a way forward, as opposed to the way back which would be acting on the destructive choices.

What are you good at? distancing yourself from things? building systems? relating two previously unrelated things together?

Maybe you could build a system that gets you away from these people and more into the company of people you respect, a system that includes regular doses of fun (i've found that stand up comedy directly addresses the issue of stupid people in stupid situations in society and then pokes fun at it) and minimises your negative reaction to these people and events.

There are two types of suffering. The first type is unavoidable, everyone experiences it, negative sensations coming through the senses, thoughts and emotions. The second type is the additional suffering each person overlays on that initial sensation, the anxiety, the projection into the future or the past, the holding onto it imagining it will last for forever.

In one sense if you arent experiencing it first hand through your senses right this moment, then it doesn't exist.

[Firebrand]

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How to Stay Sane in This Insane World Rather hard, isn't it? Where there are sometimes more bad and evil lurking around than good. So, how does one survive? Inquisitively, how to stay sane and keep on smiling and remain happy at the same time. In my opinion, there are those whom can control themselves and keep sane whilst others whom might crack under pressure. There are also perhaps those going from good to bad just so that they will be accepted. And there are also those becoming a tad unfeeling and cruel, so that they will appear to be cool and getting accepted in society. Lots of stuff out there, isn't it? So how can one stay positive no matter what? Just ignore, or do something about it? If you ask me, I'd say stick to your goals in life. Only then, will you be able to ignore the rest of the negativity surrounding you, and in that way, you'll be able to stay sane despite insanity going around. Always say to yourself that it doesn't mean that there will always be evil and bad people around and that you'll keep bumping into them. There are good people too out there, and you just have to keep on looking. Stay safe and never blame yourself for the insanity going round, whenever you come across any.

[Distance]

Sucks to be a giggling toilet. People must piss and crap all over you.
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[wrongjargon]

There will always be stupid people. Always. It is not your responsibility, and you shouldn't make it your responsibility, to knock the stupid out of them. You know the zombie horde? It's like that. Kill one, more will just come running in looking for brains.

So relax. The world isn't perfect. Find people who aren't stupid and hang out with them instead.

[AlfredSchnittke]

	Originally Posted by gigglingToilet To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Bottom line: if I analyze the reasons behind people's stupidity I'll find they have legitimate reasons

I used to think that. So I did.

Turns out they don't.

My advice? Don't bother, unless the search will keep you a tidbit more sane for a little while, and that in itself has some value to you.

[EssentiallyGood]

	Originally Posted by Distance To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Sucks to be a giggling toilet. People must piss and crap all over you. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Amused.

Giggles.

[AlfredSchnittke]

You might also explore some of the philosophy of mind literature on externalism.

If guys like David Chalmers and Tyler Burge are right, then basically stupid people are stupid just because the social environment is making them that way.

However, one has to wonder why the social environment has a seemingly total hold on some, and not on others...

[Moxiie]

*plays tiny, tiny violin*

life is just so rough for the uber sensitive and intelligent