Edit Button Disappearances

**Alberto** · 06-06-2012, 11:34 PM

At times the EDIT button is missing (for the author), a few minutes after the post.
Maybe a timeout occurring at an unintended anticipated time?
When it happened to me, my post was always the last in the queue.

---------- Post added 06-07-2012 at 10:16 AM ----------

The image is downsized unfortunately but you can still see the timestamps (wear glasses lol), top left 10.30 bottom right 10.04 - see, no edit button!

**SoundofSilence** · 06-07-2012, 06:09 AM

You mean 10:03 at the top left corner, right? Would be weird if you posted that in the future.

**Alberto** · 06-07-2012, 07:14 AM

	Originally Posted by SoundofSilence
	You mean 10:03 at the top left corner, right? Would be weird if you posted that in the future.

10:16 AM I updated it

---------- Post added 06-07-2012 at 04:19 PM ----------

ps original post http://intjforum.com/showpost.php?p=...2&postcount=18

Jezebel · 06-08-2012, 03:02 AM

I'm always glad to see members bringing up glitches they see on the forum, so thanks for mentioning it. I don't know what else to say about it though. I haven't seen or heard of anyone else having this issue. I don't know if it's something happening on your end or with the forum itself. I would be interested if anyone else has noticed this happening.

**Monte314** · 06-08-2012, 04:57 AM

This kind of stuff has been going on at least since yesterday afternoon late. I notice that it has not affected stasis, for what that's worth. The HIDE tag button is also gone.

Jezebel · 06-08-2012, 05:53 AM

	Originally Posted by Monte314
	This kind of stuff has been going on

By "this kind of stuff" do you mean you have experienced the edit button missing from your own posts and reappearing later?

	Originally Posted by Monte314
	I notice that it has not affected stasis, for what that's worth. The HIDE tag button is also gone.

You wouldn't be able to see whether or not the edit button issue is affecting other members, so I assume you're confused because he used a spoiler? Anyone can do that by manually wrapping the text in spoiler tags: [spoiler][/spoiler]. The hide tag button is gone because I removed the code due to an exploit allowing code injection.

If you have questions or comments about hide/spoiler tags you should keep it in the original thread though. This thread is about the edit button disappearing.

**Alberto** · 06-08-2012, 06:25 AM

bottom of this post you can see another user wondering about the same edit button issue:
http://intjforum.com/showpost.php?p=...8&postcount=17

i am also seeing the same glitch currently in another thread of mine.

Jezebel · 06-08-2012, 06:49 AM

I saw but removed the posts. Please keep this discussion in this thread and don't contribute to derailing threads in on-topic subforums with support issues.

	Originally Posted by Alberto
	i am also seeing the same glitch currently in another thread of mine.

Link? Is it also in the Religion and Mythology subforum? Do any of your posts in that subforum have edit buttons? Do posts in other subforums have them? It may be a permissions issue.

**Alberto** · 06-08-2012, 07:08 AM

Uh, why you did that?
The two posts were on topic, lengthy, and only with a mention at bottom (or on top) as an aside.

Those mentions were made prior to starting this thread here, and represented the moment when some of us realized this glitch - which occasioned the starting of this current thread by me (correctly, I hope).

How can a footnote in a lengthy post on topic (one by me, occasioned by a previous footnote by another) be considered as derailing? The really derailing element is that some of us cannot edit, Jezebel...
It is affecting some threads even right now.

I was in the process of copying my contributions here (forums offer opportunities to write things that later may be reused for wider works by their authors).

Do not misunderstand me, I do not intend to argue with your policies, but only to ask: please before deleting whole posts in the future for a footnote may I kindly asks to you to notify us first (say 1 hour in advance or so?), so we may copy them if we wish so? Or so that, if we are in time, we might just delete the footnote using the edit button and comply in this manner with your policy. We would be glad to, me for sure.

I know our texts have no absolute value, yet they are intellectual contributions that nonetheless may have some relative value for those who gave time and dedications to write them.
Thank you.

---------- Post added 06-08-2012 at 04:09 PM ----------

	Originally Posted by Jezebel
	Link? Is it also in the Religion and Mythology subforum? Do any of your posts in that subforum have edit buttons? Do posts in other subforums have them? It may be a permissions issue.

Some thread have the edit button as soon as I post, others have it not as soon as I post. Other users have the same problem, but I have no idea how many. I cannot fathom why and how it happens exactly, it seems random - the most i could do was to provide a screenshot to show that it happens.

---------- Post added 06-08-2012 at 04:32 PM ----------

A thread were there was no edit button now has them

---------- Post added 06-08-2012 at 04:50 PM ----------

There we go again Jezebel - another instance right now:

thread is http://intjforum.com/showthread.php?t=80913

**JTG** · 06-08-2012, 07:56 AM

	Originally Posted by Monte314
	I notice that it has not affected stasis, for what that's worth.

Forum staff retain use of the edit button on all posts in areas where they have moderator privileges. For purposes of moderation, of course.

For this reason further reports are welcome from regular users. Describing which subforum(s) they're having this issue and when it's occurring may help the admins narrow down the source of the problem

Jezebel · 06-08-2012, 08:04 AM

	Originally Posted by Alberto
	The two posts were on topic, lengthy . . .

If you would have looked at what I did before writing this you should have seen that I didn't remove your lengthy on-topic responses. What I removed was only posts and portions of posts troubleshooting a support issue and asking moderators for help (from you and other users).

**Alberto** · 06-08-2012, 08:25 AM

Ok thank you - I just took "I saw but removed the posts" at its apparent value of "post" as the whole of it rather than a portion. As an INTJ fellow I take you literally when you say "the post" lol
Since you actually just edited them, thank you for your work, ability, and understanding and sorry for me not having checked the actual posts.

Do the screenshots help you, or if I find more instances you prefer me to just report them with a link and a timestamp (well of course not at all times)?

**Booko** · 06-08-2012, 08:32 AM

Well, for what it's worth I just posted this in Religion & Mythology and my Edit button is there.

**Alberto** · 06-09-2012, 11:09 AM

I am having it again in this new thread: http://intjforum.com/showthread.php?t=81179

**anticlimatic** · 06-09-2012, 01:12 PM

I also can not edit any of my posts. And the one "hide" tag I've ever used seems broken. The code text and the image are just displayed in the thread.

---------- Post added 06-09-2012 at 04:13 PM ----------

http://intjforum.com/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=208

---------- Post added 06-09-2012 at 04:14 PM ----------

*Note-- it had worked previously, and has only halted after what appears to be a mod-sweep in the thread.

---------- Post added 06-09-2012 at 04:18 PM ----------

Jezebel-- if you're going to allow mods to block member's editing rights, you should at least make them go through some kind of due-process, the least of which should include informing the member what he did wrong.

**Alberto** · 06-09-2012, 01:58 PM

Now i can edit again. Bah! :-D

**JTG** · 06-09-2012, 02:09 PM

	Originally Posted by anticlimatic
	And the one "hide" tag I've ever used seems broken. The code text and the image are just displayed in the thread.

This is a known, separate issue. Use [spoiler][/spoiler] tags as a replacement until further notice

Jezebel · 06-09-2012, 02:16 PM

	Originally Posted by anticlimatic
	Jezebel-- if you're going to allow mods to block member's editing rights, you should at least make them go through some kind of due-process, the least of which should include informing the member what he did wrong.

Mods can't block a member's editing rights and nobody removed yours. Missing permissions may be related to this.

Espadrille · 06-09-2012, 05:47 PM

On at least two occasions I have posted messages and not been able to edit (no edit button) but then it appeared within a minute or so.

**WillBrazil** · 06-09-2012, 11:28 PM

This is happening to me too.
I'm not always able to edit my posts.

Othesemo · 06-10-2012, 10:39 AM

I'm not able to edit the OP in this thread.

Espadrille · 06-10-2012, 10:41 AM

	Originally Posted by Othesemo
	I'm not able to edit the OP in this thread.

Edit is supposed to disappear after a day or so I believe.

**JTG** · 06-10-2012, 12:01 PM

For those who are not aware, users are able to edit their posts within 24 hours. After that window is closed, editing is no longer allowed. This is to prevent people from retroactively gutting a discussion if they suffer from poster's regret. A fair portion of new traffic comes from search engines displaying discussion threads, and butchered discussions are less likely to interest readers.

If anybody is experiencing a loss of editing privileges before 24 hours have passed, then replying here with a location (and perhaps a time) would be helpful

Jezebel · 06-10-2012, 02:32 PM

The issue, as I understand it from the posts in this thread, is that the edit button is missing immediately after submitting a post and then appearing on the same posts some time later when the post is reloaded. This is an issue some users only began experiencing recently. Normal behavior is for the edit behavior to always be present for 24 hours after a post is submitted then disappear.

I think it might be related to the permissions changes I made, and if the presence of the edit button is fluctuating it might be related to a cron job. I don't have a solution at the moment but there are more changes going on in the back which will hopefully resolve the issue. If anyone is experiencing this issue I would encourage them to report it along with the relevant subforum and times the strange behavior occurred so I can look for patterns.

**Alberto** · 06-12-2012, 06:24 AM

I am having it again in another thread ( http://intjforum.com/showthread.php?t=81270 never been able to edit). It occurs immediately, as soon as one has posted.
It affects only certain threads apparently.

ps I don't think it is this forum. Smacks of an application bug.

again, now happens here: http://intjforum.com/showthread.php?t=81510

06-06-2012, 11:34 PM	#1
Alberto Member [11%] MBTI: intj Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 468	At times the EDIT button is missing (for the author), a few minutes after the post. Maybe a timeout occurring at an unintended anticipated time? When it happened to me, my post was always the last in the queue. ---------- Post added 06-07-2012 at 10:16 AM ---------- The image is downsized unfortunately but you can still see the timestamps (wear glasses lol), top left 10.30 bottom right 10.04 - see, no edit button!
Alberto is offline post a comment

06-07-2012, 06:09 AM	#2
SoundofSilence Member [09%] MBTI: INTp Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 370	You mean 10:03 at the top left corner, right? Would be weird if you posted that in the future.
SoundofSilence is offline post a comment

06-08-2012, 03:02 AM	#4
Jezebel Administrator MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,392	I'm always glad to see members bringing up glitches they see on the forum, so thanks for mentioning it. I don't know what else to say about it though. I haven't seen or heard of anyone else having this issue. I don't know if it's something happening on your end or with the forum itself. I would be interested if anyone else has noticed this happening.
Jezebel is offline post a comment

06-08-2012, 04:57 AM	#5
Monte314 Core Member [412%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 16,504	This kind of stuff has been going on at least since yesterday afternoon late. I notice that it has not affected stasis, for what that's worth. The HIDE tag button is also gone.
Monte314 is offline post a comment

06-08-2012, 06:25 AM	#7
Alberto Member [11%] MBTI: intj Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 468	bottom of this post you can see another user wondering about the same edit button issue: http://intjforum.com/showpost.php?p=...8&postcount=17 i am also seeing the same glitch currently in another thread of mine.
Alberto is offline post a comment

06-08-2012, 08:25 AM	#12
Alberto Member [11%] MBTI: intj Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 468	Ok thank you - I just took "I saw but removed the posts" at its apparent value of "post" as the whole of it rather than a portion. As an INTJ fellow I take you literally when you say "the post" lol Since you actually just edited them, thank you for your work, ability, and understanding and sorry for me not having checked the actual posts. Do the screenshots help you, or if I find more instances you prefer me to just report them with a link and a timestamp (well of course not at all times)?
Alberto is offline post a comment

06-08-2012, 08:32 AM	#13
Booko Veteran Member [87%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,502	Well, for what it's worth I just posted this in Religion & Mythology and my Edit button is there.
Booko is offline post a comment

06-09-2012, 11:09 AM	#14
Alberto Member [11%] MBTI: intj Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 468	I am having it again in this new thread: http://intjforum.com/showthread.php?t=81179
Alberto is offline post a comment

06-09-2012, 01:12 PM	#15
anticlimatic Veteran Member [56%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 2,269	I also can not edit any of my posts. And the one "hide" tag I've ever used seems broken. The code text and the image are just displayed in the thread. ---------- Post added 06-09-2012 at 04:13 PM ---------- http://intjforum.com/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=208 ---------- Post added 06-09-2012 at 04:14 PM ---------- *Note-- it had worked previously, and has only halted after what appears to be a mod-sweep in the thread. ---------- Post added 06-09-2012 at 04:18 PM ---------- Jezebel-- if you're going to allow mods to block member's editing rights, you should at least make them go through some kind of due-process, the least of which should include informing the member what he did wrong.
anticlimatic is offline post a comment

06-09-2012, 01:58 PM	#16
Alberto Member [11%] MBTI: intj Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 468	Now i can edit again. Bah! :-D
Alberto is offline post a comment

06-09-2012, 05:47 PM	#19
Espadrille Core Member [441%] MBTI: ISFP Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 17,656	On at least two occasions I have posted messages and not been able to edit (no edit button) but then it appeared within a minute or so.
Espadrille is offline post a comment

06-09-2012, 11:28 PM	#20
WillBrazil Member [06%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 267	This is happening to me too. I'm not always able to edit my posts.
WillBrazil is offline post a comment

06-10-2012, 10:39 AM	#21
Othesemo Core Member [125%] MBTI: INTj Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 5,022	I'm not able to edit the OP in this thread.
Othesemo is offline post a comment

06-10-2012, 12:01 PM	#23
JTG Core Member [246%] MBTI: INFJ Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,844	For those who are not aware, users are able to edit their posts within 24 hours. After that window is closed, editing is no longer allowed. This is to prevent people from retroactively gutting a discussion if they suffer from poster's regret. A fair portion of new traffic comes from search engines displaying discussion threads, and butchered discussions are less likely to interest readers. If anybody is experiencing a loss of editing privileges before 24 hours have passed, then replying here with a location (and perhaps a time) would be helpful
JTG is offline post a comment

06-10-2012, 02:32 PM	#24
Jezebel Administrator MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,392	The issue, as I understand it from the posts in this thread, is that the edit button is missing immediately after submitting a post and then appearing on the same posts some time later when the post is reloaded. This is an issue some users only began experiencing recently. Normal behavior is for the edit behavior to always be present for 24 hours after a post is submitted then disappear. I think it might be related to the permissions changes I made, and if the presence of the edit button is fluctuating it might be related to a cron job. I don't have a solution at the moment but there are more changes going on in the back which will hopefully resolve the issue. If anyone is experiencing this issue I would encourage them to report it along with the relevant subforum and times the strange behavior occurred so I can look for patterns.
Jezebel is offline post a comment

06-12-2012, 06:24 AM	#25
Alberto Member [11%] MBTI: intj Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 468	I am having it again in another thread ( http://intjforum.com/showthread.php?t=81270 never been able to edit). It occurs immediately, as soon as one has posted. It affects only certain threads apparently. ps I don't think it is this forum. Smacks of an application bug. again, now happens here: http://intjforum.com/showthread.php?t=81510
Alberto is offline post a comment