[John F Kennedy]

I looked at some previous material from INTJf, which partly centred on theory and arguments. In this thread I would like to get suggestions for a picean-vegetarian diet for hypoglycemia. Please give specific suggestions for items and their combinations, not just "fibre" or "protein", and if you can or if it's pertinent, also include meal names, e.g. breakfast, dinner, snack, etc.

So far I've noticed in my results:

No-nos:
- Too much bread, esp. old, dryer bread.
- Too little fat
- Using only fresh vegetables for a meal
- Wheat products
- Beer
- Sweets

Oh yeahs:
- Grilled salmon
- Avocado and blue cheese salad
- Any good quality cheese
- "Grains de Manitoba" salad
- Eggs
- Dry wine

I've only begun seriously tackling this today, so I've barely begun.

And please let's try to not descend too much into theoretical debate.
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[Sk8ordude]

-Insert rice into wheat and breads catagories, brown rice is best but expensive as a staple. Rice goes with everything, potatos do too.
-Herbal teas (gynostemma is great for everybody) as opposed to sweet drinks.
-Salmon patties with a recipe that substitutes potatos for bread.
-Salmon has mercury in it so its only good to eat so much in a week, also wild caught is best.

*I eat my brown rice with a sweet potato, for breakfast or whenever
*White rice with some steamed broccoli (or whatever veggie or meat), for a snack whenever
*Salmon patties with some rice, three lunches a week

I often eat hard boiled eggs with plant based meals, and you can add olive oil to
anything for some good fat. I also put turmeric on my rice.

For me those make up at least 15 meals a week.

[Arguendo]

Have you heard of the 3 day perricone diet? It consist mostly of Sockeye salmon, eggs and lots of superfoods such as blueberries and cantaloupe.

[Still Standing]

I'm mostly a pescatarian (I'll eat the occasional meat) but I don't have hypoglycemia. To me, a healthy meal consists of:
50% fruits and veggies
25% protein (
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, eggs, low-fat cheese, nuts, legumes, etc.)
25% complex carbohydrates (cereals, bread, pasta)

A few (non-wheat) meals that I regularly come back to:
- a mix of brown rice, black beans, onions, garlic, canned tomatoes, zucchini and spices
- a cold gingered carrot soup with a dollop of plain yogourt, a green salad, and either canned fish or a pickled egg with a slice of (non-wheat) bread
- a slice of some kind of vegetarian (no wheat?) pizza with a lentil salad (add onions, red pepper, oil, vinegar, salt and pepper) on a bed of lettuce
- vegan Indian stew (onions, garlic, cauliflower, eggplant, canned tomatoes, chick peas, Indian spices) on a bed of rice
- a whole-grain (no wheat?) flatbread wrap with cream cheese, onions, avocado slices and black olive slices, served with a cold soup like a gazpacho (tomatoes, onions, garlic, cucumber, red or green pepper, spices) and a soy dessert with fruits
- vegan shepherd's pie (fake ground beef topped with canned cream-style corn and mashed sweet potato) with a slice of (non-wheat) bread

Bon appetit!

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Oh, I forgot these tofu/soy-based meals:
- fried (canned) sauerkraut and sliced veggie dogs or tofu dogs, a bit of Dijon mustard for the dogs, and browned potatoes
- tofu bourguignon (onions, garlic, browned tofu cubes marinated overnight in red wine, potato and carrot cubes/slices, mushrooms, wine-based sauce) on a bed of rice
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[John F Kennedy]

	Originally Posted by Arguendo To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Have you heard of the 3 day perricone diet? It consist mostly of Sockeye salmon, eggs and lots of superfoods such as blueberries and cantaloupe.

I haven't heard of this before. I might look into it, but the cantaloupe would not be good for hypoglycemia, unless eaten on a full stomach.

[Deliberator]

It is an art form to find ways to add fat to every last bite. For example, it isn't enough to just eat a fillet of salmon. Instead, put the salmon into a food processor with a generous spoonful of canola or olive oil mayonnaise. Processing the salmon creates more surface area with which all that delicious and nutritious fat can cling to.

Speaking of which, I bet fat is going to be your saving grace in beating hypoglycemia. I have a pretty bad case of it myself, and the number one, (if not only) strategy in beating it was increasing the proportion of fat calories from 30% up to 50%.

Honestly, carbohydrates are fantastic fat carriers if you know how to do it. Slathering on extra cream cheese, peanut butter, or other fat-heavy spread is one example.

Food processors are amazing. Put a mashed potato in there and you can soak so much delicious sources of fat into a small space. I used to eat potatoes with four different types of dairy products: butter, cheese, sour cream and milk. DEEEEEElicious.

I can go on, but I'm getting hungry.

[John F Kennedy]

Originally Posted by Deliberator To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

It is an art form to find ways to add fat to every last bite. For example, it isn't enough to just eat a fillet of salmon. Instead, put the salmon into a food processor with a generous spoonful of canola or olive oil mayonnaise. Processing the salmon creates more surface area with which all that delicious and nutritious fat can cling to. Speaking of which, I bet fat is going to be your saving grace in beating hypoglycemia. I have a pretty bad case of it myself, and the number one, (if not only) strategy in beating it was increasing the proportion of fat calories from 30% up to 50%. Honestly, carbohydrates are fantastic fat carriers if you know how to do it. Slathering on extra cream cheese, peanut butter, or other fat-heavy spread is one example. Food processors are amazing. Put a mashed potato in there and you can soak so much delicious sources of fat into a small space. I used to eat potatoes with four different types of dairy products: butter, cheese, sour cream and milk. DEEEEEElicious. I can go on, but I'm getting hungry.

Yes, I mentioned fat, but I wouldn't overdo it. I prefer fats inherent in the food rather than piling on mayo or butter. E.g. the blue cheese I mentioned or the avocados. I can really relate to that kind of fat. Some of the fats you mentioned are okay.

[Deliberator]

^Well, eating plenty of fats cured my hypoglycemia so perhaps I'm biased in that. I'm not sure if your preferences there relate to misconceptions on the healthfulness of fats or culinary preferences but I don't see anything wrong with doing so from a health perspective. Do as you may, those were my two cents.

[teraczy]

I agree, I don't see a problem with adding those fats as long as they aren't overly processed. I have hypoglycemia and I've discovered the wonder of it as well.

I'd say eat A LOT of nuts and beans as well, but if you aren't used to eating beans you've definitely gotta slowly work them into your diet.

Lentils are great, and any beans with rice flavored with butter and olive oil and some spices. Snacks that really hold me over are raw almonds, popcorn, good quality cheese with whole grain crackers - add avocado to that deeelicious!

[mieu]

This might be obvious, but if wheat products are a no-no, it sounds like you're sensititve to blood sugar spikes (duh), and you'll want to incorporate a search on foods that are low on the glycemic index and/or with a reasonable glycemic load. Someone mentioned brown rice...even though it's better than white rice, it's got the same glycemic load. As you mentioned with cantaloupe, many fruits are ridiculously high on the GI as well. Watermelon has a very high GI, but a low glycemic load (because you have to eat a lot of watermelon to consume the same amount of net carbohydrate) but your sensitivity to the quality of the sugar might make it horrible for you to eat.


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^also displays the glycemic load of foods that you look up

[InfiniteLoop]

I dunno much about hypoglycemics, but if you have a problem with bread and too little fats along with liking fish and having the money for it, then you might wanna try sushi or sashimi. Fish in general, especially oily fishes, is a great source of omega-3's (a really good oil for your heart and brain), and there's enough variety with sushi that you can get any type of fish or shellfish you want, usually. Usually they use white rice with it, not brown, but it's still a good substitute for bread carbs as long as you don't eat too much of it or ONLY white rice. The rolls contain seaweed, which you might want to experiment with before you commit. Some people don't like the texture, but it's very healthy. And if you like salmon, sushi has that covered - a lot of rolls use salmon or tuna. You can get the rolls prepared any way you want, too - there are even some that are fried, though I stick away from those... The best way to try it out is to find a good sushi bar, or to find a buffet that you trust that serves the sushi very fresh. Fresher is always best, particularly with raw foods like sushi.

The one problem some people have is that much of it is raw and it's hard to get past the "ew" factor. Once you get past that, though, it's a really great food for someone looking to go pescitarian! And not all of it is prepared raw - shrimp and crab sushis, for example, are both cooked. So is egg sushi. Yes, you can get sushi with strips of scrambled egg on it instead of fish, I forget the technical name for it...

If you can't do sushi due to the whole "raw fish" thing or due to money issues, you could try oriental, with lots of veggies, and add shrimp, scallops, or whatever seafood you have on hand. Thai is very seafood-friendly in particular, and if you like spice it's right up your alley. If not, you can make it milder - pad thai, for example, usually isn't spicy, but sort of sweet and peanutty. Seafood gumbos and jambalyas are also awesome - in taste, and in a way to incorporate your needs for veggies, brown rice, and seafood. Just be aware that both these food types can be rather salty, depending on what kind of seasonings you use.

Hope that helps.
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I myself tend to eat more pollo-pescitarian, with the occasional other meat thrown in, simply because I just mostly like seafood and poultry more than red meats and pork, and because I feel it's just a healthier way to eat. Definitely healthier for your heart, that's for sure!