[Autumnleaf]

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Perhaps we should raise the age for voting and military service accordingly. It seems unfair to send children to do such bloody business.

[Ghostwheel]

Voting in our rigged, two-party monopoly doesn't seem to do much good, and I'm not sure older voters are any wiser than younger ones.

Military service wouldn't be so bad except that the Empire is at constant war. By my reckoning it seems unfair to send anyone to do that kind of bloody business.

[Phenom]

Last I checked military service is voluntary. Funny how fair works.

[Distance]

Notice how they frame the conceptual box of what's considered acceptable human behaviour? 'Tis an SJ world out there that believes knowledge and education are bad, that unless people develop and live their lives in the traditional and linear manner of A, B, C, D..., they're bad, bad, bad, they're deviant and ruining their lives.

[Tahiti]

Cool, I have 7 more months of childhood freedom.

[MechanicalSun]

Kind of old news since it's well known that the brains isn't fully developed until around 22 years of age.

[Autumnleaf]

	Originally Posted by MechanicalSun To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Kind of old news since it's well known that the brains isn't fully developed until around 22 years of age.

How should society respond to this research? Should we not legally call people adults until they are 22?

[MechanicalSun]

	Originally Posted by Autumnleaf To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	How should society respond to this research? Should we not legally call people adults until they are 22?

Current society/economic models don't care about the intellectual aptitude of the electorate/voter( yeah democracy!). In some cases they even promote ignorance/neglect education for better manipulation (you know, less scrutiny more dividends
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What should we do? Not so sure, but probably: Vote for the better candidates, study and demand better interaction/keep their promises(??).

[firebee]

This is a relatively stock sort of article -- observe research indicating that such and such brain metric does not meet peak values until 24, and then we have the call for infantilization. Because, of course, the reaction to finding that our prime learning period extends further means that we must be wrapped in cotton and shielded from realistic responsibility until our brains are good and solidified and more resistant to change. What bad could possibly come of that?

The basic flaw here is assuming that it's necessary for the individual to mature completely, as opposed to sufficiently. If we analogize to physical growth -- roller coasters, for instance, have a "You must be this tall to ride this ride" sign, right? It's at four or five feet, the value that is necessary for a person to stay in the thing and not go flying out halfway through. This is significantly less than the full adult height of most people, and they don't have a "You must have reached your full adult height, whatever it is" sign, which would leave men out of roller coasters until, what, their early 20s?

It's not relevant if you're going to be taller next year, if you're tall enough to ride today.

[Megalomania]

Cognitive decline becomes evident after age 40. People 40 and over should not be allowed to partake in adult activities like voting. The only people who should be considered adults are those from 24 to 40.

[Nemesis]

	Originally Posted by MechanicalSun To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Kind of old news since it's well known that the brains isn't fully developed until around 22 years of age.

Yup. Executive functioning doesn't emerge until around then.

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	Cool, I have 7 more months of childhood freedom.

Uh-oh! Underage ban, incoming!

[Ghostwheel]

	Originally Posted by Phenom To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Last I checked military service is voluntary. Funny how fair works.

There's all kinds of 'voluntary,' though. It's been said we have a 'poverty draft,' which is pretty much true. A lot of people join up not for patriotic reasons, but because in an outsourced, downsized, automated work force there aren't always other options.

If Wal-Mart isn't hiring and the plant moved to Mexico and your wife and newborn baby need medical insurance, the military may be the only real game in town.

[Ray9]

	Originally Posted by Megalomania To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Cognitive decline becomes evident after age 40. People 40 and over should not be allowed to partake in adult activities like voting. The only people who should be considered adults are those from 24 to 40.

Well, in that case you better hope you're not standing in front of me when I hit the gas instead of the brake. You're in a bit of a quandary here because old duffers like me are extra plentiful due to the population bubble caused by World War Two. And guess what? We really like to vote. Now if cognitive decline were really an issue then voting wouldn't be a problem because cognitively-challenged individuals seldom vote anyway unless they are bussed to a voting station by Democrats which is what happened a few years back when drug-addled street people couldn't figure out how to operate a voting machine.

[Megalomania]

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Well, in that case you better hope you're not standing in front of me when I hit the gas instead of the brake. You're in a bit of a quandary here because old duffers like me are extra plentiful due to the population bubble caused by World War Two. And guess what? We really like to vote. Now if cognitive decline were really an issue then voting wouldn't be a problem because cognitively-challenged individuals seldom vote anyway unless they are bussed to a voting station by Democrats which is what happened a few years back when drug-addled street people couldn't figure out how to operate a voting machine.

Not quite sure you got my point.

[INTelliJent]

Originally Posted by Ray9 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Well, in that case you better hope you're not standing in front of me when I hit the gas instead of the brake. You're in a bit of a quandary here because old duffers like me are extra plentiful due to the population bubble caused by World War Two. And guess what? We really like to vote. Now if cognitive decline were really an issue then voting wouldn't be a problem because cognitively-challenged individuals seldom vote anyway unless they are bussed to a voting station by Democrats which is what happened a few years back when drug-addled street people couldn't figure out how to operate a voting machine.

You are getting out and voting for Mittens in droves, after voting for Bush (x3), Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Nixon, etc. etc. in droves as well.

Stay the fuck home and get off the government teat you have been voting for for dear life your entire existence. Yes, I know you are a "conservative". "Conservatives" love the government teat just as much as "liberals", they just like a different kind of milk.

[Clueless]

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You are getting out and voting for Mittens in droves, after voting for Bush (x3), Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Nixon, etc. etc. in droves as well. Stay the fuck home and get off the government teat you have been voting for for dear life your entire existence. Yes, I know you are a "conservative". "Conservatives" love the government teat just as much as "liberals", they just like a different kind of milk.

LOL. Well don't mince words, tell us what you really think.

[eagleseven]

I sure feel a hell of a lot older at 24.

[Nemesis]

	Originally Posted by Megalomania To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Not quite sure you got my point.

Well, there are always exceptions.

[EnsconcedDeity]

This is old news. I thought the biological age to become an adult was ages 25-30...? -shrugs- In any case if you're wondering why 18 year olds have the right to vote it's because people that age were being drafted into war(Vietnam?), their argument was "If we can fight for our country, why can't we vote?" Thus, the age requirement was lowered to 18, nothing less. Of course there were 10 and 12 year old children drafted into war at some point, but I think everyone can agree that their level of maturity is inadequate for political participation.

[zibber]

I think anyone who considers voting once every four years "political participation" maybe isn't (intellectually) mature yet, but I'm pretty sure I am in the minority on that one. That definition would disqualify the vast majority of all "adult" humans.

[EnsconcedDeity]

Try not to take things so literally, I tend to word things a bit more peculiar than most. Your definition of voting based on your own perceptions, and one based on the patriarchal sense of the word evidently differ. The way I worded it was not to please your reality, but to acknowledge the reality most mediocre individuals adhere by.

[Fecal McAngry]

	Originally Posted by Megalomania To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Cognitive decline becomes evident after age 40. People 40 and over should not be allowed to partake in adult activities like voting. The only people who should be considered adults are those from 24 to 40.

What about simply setting an IQ threshold of say, 140, tested every 5 years. While this would have some interesting consequences--virtually no blacks would be permitted to vote, and the influence of Jews and East Asians would rise dramatically, it would allow some people to vote throughout their natural lives.

And who knows--better choices might be made at the polling places...

[Eye on Earth]

	Originally Posted by Megalomania To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Cognitive decline becomes evident after age 40. People 40 and over should not be allowed to partake in adult activities like voting. The only people who should be considered adults are those from 24 to 40.

Responses like this ^ are why there are laws in the US protecting people over age 40. Good thing a one-year old adult can realize that.

[True Rune]

Alright, one more day and I'm in!

[Megalomania]

	Originally Posted by Eye on Earth To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Responses like this ^ are why there are laws in the US protecting people over age 40. Good thing a one-year old adult can realize that.

You know what one-year old adults can't realize? Satire.