[Fox]

	Originally Posted by sdfghj To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Totally depends on the Woman. I have felt revulsion upon being touched w/out my permission by a person I just didn't want to touch me. If I want it, it feels wonderful and lets me know better where she's at w/ me.

Yep that's my thoughts too. I really don't like to be touched without being asked first. It shows a sign of trust, liking and respect that I don't think that just anyone can assume they have. My problem is that I am extremely touchable. If you're a person prone to be a touchier then you're going to try to touch me. Males or females just love going for my shoulders. Then there was that lesbian coworker who kept trying to play fight with me. It didn't matter what gender or preference they had nobody can keep their hands off of me. For the most part it is uncomfortable.

[SwedenF]

Not INTJ male, but INTJ female. I absolute HATE physical contact that isn't from partner/family/close friend. Random person touching me would regret it, most likely. This obviously doesn't include handshake when offered or accidents, like brushing against you while passing by in a crowded area.

My personal space is my personal space. Without permission to invade it, you got no business in it. I don't care if you want to flirt with me. You have a brain and a mouth, use it.

@Fox: If I were you, I'd get a bunch of T-shirts saying "I have a very contagious skin disease". That ought to fend them off. That or walk around with a sign that says "I am not responsible for injures caused to you if you touch me without permission".

[followthehippos]

I imagine it depends from INTJ to INTJ. I think it largely comes down to exposure. If the INTJ is used to getting hugs from family and/or friends they are typically fine with and even appreciate it. If the INTJ lies on the extreme end of lacking physical contact they may be awkward to such. However, I would encourage you to be open about your desire to be touchy feel (I don't know the context of your relationship with said INTJ) as I see it working as a benefit for INTJs because they can both appreciate and develop comfortable.

[Cincinnatus]

	Originally Posted by castalia To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Do you like it when women touch you casually on the art or back? How do you respond to physical touch by a woman you find attractive? Does it increase your interest in her and do you take actions?

I wasn't very happy with the women touching me to get a better spot at the bar. So, I would say "no" in general. I'm not an arm rest. I don't care if they were attractive or not. It's a perimeter violation.

I don't ask for much. Maybe an inch? I don't think that's going overboard. The only reason strangers are touching me is to get something or somewhere.

If I know you, however, then it's not nearly as irritating. Time has to pass before that happens though.

[Lacy]

Just wondering...
What if a girl announces she needs a hug?

[Cincinnatus]

	Originally Posted by Lacy To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Just wondering... What if a girl announces she needs a hug?

"That guy over there looks game."

[Distance]

Anyone else want to run around touching as many INTJs as possible, just to watch them all cringe?
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This thread is reminiscent of the fascination to touch mimosa plants which immediately
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from human touch.

[DrCiao]

Originally Posted by Cincinnatus To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I wasn't very happy with the women touching me to get a better spot at the bar. So, I would say "no" in general. I'm not an arm rest. I don't care if they were attractive or not. It's a perimeter violation. I don't ask for much. Maybe an inch? I don't think that's going overboard. The only reason strangers are touching me is to get something or somewhere. If I know you, however, then it's not nearly as irritating. Time has to pass before that happens though.

What if a gorgeous blonde came up to you at the bar, and slyly slid her arm against yours, then looked at you flirtatiously? Wouldn't the qualia of the sexual tension make you more receptive to her advances?

[Cincinnatus]

	Originally Posted by DrCiao To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	What if a gorgeous blonde came up to you at the bar, and slyly slid her arm against yours, then looked at you flirtatiously? Wouldn't the qualia of the sexual tension make you more receptive to her advances?

True to form, I'd be skeptical of her intent... and a little insulted by her presumptuousness. I'd probably recoil and go back to my book (I do read in bars, yes). I've got a face for radio. There isn't going to be anyone trying to be smooth with me that doesn't want something other than my affection. It just doesn't happen.

[Analyze]

Please don't touch me. I don't like people who touch me constantly.

[DrCiao]

	Originally Posted by Cincinnatus To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	True to form, I'd be skeptical of her intent... and a little insulted by her presumptuousness. I'd probably recoil and go back to my book (I do read in bars, yes). I've got a face for radio. There isn't going to be anyone trying to be smooth with me that doesn't want something other than my affection. It just doesn't happen.

What do you drink whilst reading your book? What if she presumptuously asked you what you were reading?

[Cincinnatus]

	Originally Posted by DrCiao To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	What do you drink whilst reading your book?

I've been moving up and down the taps lately. I was drinking
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last night, and
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a week ago. I don't know what I'll have tonight.
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? Perhaps.

	Originally Posted by DrCiao To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	What if she presumptuously asked you what you were reading?

I answer the question or show them the cover. The latter more than the former. I'm courteous about it though. I may be agitated, but I can keep it so people don't get too upset. It'll just be brief.

Now, let's say said woman is in a group of people and sits at a table across from me. This is a much more comfortable situation. I'm more likely to expand on those answers and maybe have a few questions of my own.

[Shadizar]

	Originally Posted by castalia To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Do you like it when women touch you casually on the art or back? How do you respond to physical touch by a woman you find attractive? Does it increase your interest in her and do you take actions?

I let it happen. I even take pot shots at them, "you just can't resist all this manliness can you", and similar conceited phrases. I use it for a dual purpose; it serves my tempered ego, and I make it clear that any furthering of the "relationship" will be done solely on her part. They don't seem to like be on the receiving end of "hard to get"; for the most part, it's protected my ass from slander; yes, I'm a conceited asshole, but I'm not an easy target for harassment charges; you wanna touch me, that's fine, everyone around us will know about it the moment you do.

[DrCiao]

Originally Posted by Cincinnatus To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I've been moving up and down the taps lately. I was drinking To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. last night, and To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. a week ago. I don't know what I'll have tonight. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ? Perhaps. I answer the question or show them the cover. The latter more than the former. I'm courteous about it though. I may be agitated, but I can keep it so people don't get too upset. It'll just be brief. Now, let's say said woman is in a group of people and sits at a table across from me. This is a much more comfortable situation. I'm more likely to expand on those answers and maybe have a few questions of my own.

What if the woman with the group of people sits at a table across from you, and only smiles? Would you make a move?

Pranqster looks like a Hef.
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[Cincinnatus]

	Originally Posted by DrCiao To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	What if the woman with the group of people sits at a table across from you, and only smiles? Would you make a move?

Then there's nothing to talk about. Move? Probably not. Why would I? Just because she's exceptionally beautiful?

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	Pranqster looks like a Hef. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

It's close to a hef, sure. The linked one's uncommon here, and I'd have to order it. To compound the problem, the wine and beer shop is currently closed due to a fire. However, I like to keep it in mind when it opens up.

Oh, and it is Bourbon Barrel tonight.
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[Dokubi]

If I'm not attracted to the person, I have little to no response. I just don't care.

If I am attracted to the person, I feel good.

[Hariar]

	Originally Posted by Lacy To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Just wondering... What if a girl announces she needs a hug?

"Don't look at me."

I am remembered of the "diploma" ceremony after finishing secondary school where a couple of girls wanted a hug. I was traumatised.

As for the OP, I would probably feel uneasy about it (being attractive alone doesn't make that much of a difference mentally for me). It doesn't ever really happen though (attractive or not), so it's not an issue.

[DrCiao]

Originally Posted by Cincinnatus To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Then there's nothing to talk about. Move? Probably not. Why would I? Just because she's exceptionally beautiful? It's close to a hef, sure. The linked one's uncommon here, and I'd have to order it. To compound the problem, the wine and beer shop is currently closed due to a fire. However, I like to keep it in mind when it opens up. Oh, and it is Bourbon Barrel tonight. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I like the chocolate stouts- although with its bitterness, I prefer something sweet to snack on. So, Cincinnatus- it looks like you don't like being approached nor do you like to approach ladies yourself. I gather when you want to meet a lady, you must have a wingman/wingwoman to introduce you?

[Cincinnatus]

I'm pretty basic about my drinking. I'll have a beer with a meal every now and then, but usually it's sans food. I understand the desire to balance flavors though.

I'm real dicey in this area. I'll admit it, but I am no cruel beast. Honest. There has just been too many mixed signals, charity work and general misinterpretations through it all. I do not enjoy being treated like a creeper either. I find that very upsetting. So, I don't feel bad for casting it all off.

	Originally Posted by DrCiao To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	So, Cincinnatus- it looks like you don't like being approached nor do you like to approach ladies yourself. I gather when you want to meet a lady, you must have a wingman/wingwoman to introduce you?

I've always found the term wingman or wingwoman to conjure up images of a friend who will do romantic cold calls with you. The last two women I've met were more in a circle of friends situation. X, a friend of mine, is dating or knows Y very well. Y knows Z and has her with A, B, and C (any combination, really) all come to lunch/dinner/the park/concert. It's not a set up in earnest, but that's the most comfortable for me. I'll most likely be quiet (unless sufficiently plied with liquor) the first time around, and it does take time.

[MechanicalSun]

	Originally Posted by castalia To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Do you like it when women touch you casually on the art or back? How do you respond to physical touch by a woman you find attractive? Does it increase your interest in her and do you take actions?

About casual touching is not problem, unless they are sweaty or something of the same type.

If the woman is attractive, and kind of touching already too much. I give them a hint like "Hey you like my shirt huh?" or "Are you learning to give massages?" with the proper look
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If they continue, I warn: "Ok, yours is soft as well *proceed to touch*, hmm". If they continue with the physical contact(you know, also on pecs and the "muscles"), I launch a last warning:" Now it's my turn!!" (a la here we gooooo) *joker laughter*. If they stay, I win. I they leave, I win.
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Happened to me many times, even girls with boyfriends, once a girl just hugged my from behind and i said:"Hmmm, I wonder if I could do the same to you too
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[Outlaw]

Of the times i've been contacted with, i usually make it look as if i am suprised. I am suprised, because they touched me. Women don't speak to me unless they really need to. I usually shrug, and it looks as if i am uncomfortable. I am pleased with it, but i don't know who to react. Most times, i look at them and make a "nervous" smile, which then bursts into a chuckle at myself.

[KeithP]

Frequent touching is okay if the female in question is a friend or romantic interest. It happens so rarely it is usually unexpected and welcomed when it happens. Had a girl play with my hair for the first time in years a few weeks ago. Soo good.

[DrCiao]

Originally Posted by Cincinnatus To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I'm pretty basic about my drinking. I'll have a beer with a meal every now and then, but usually it's sans food. I understand the desire to balance flavors though. I'm real dicey in this area. I'll admit it, but I am no cruel beast. Honest. There has just been too many mixed signals, charity work and general misinterpretations through it all. I do not enjoy being treated like a creeper either. I find that very upsetting. So, I don't feel bad for casting it all off. I've always found the term wingman or wingwoman to conjure up images of a friend who will do romantic cold calls with you. The last two women I've met were more in a circle of friends situation. X, a friend of mine, is dating or knows Y very well. Y knows Z and has her with A, B, and C (any combination, really) all come to lunch/dinner/the park/concert. It's not a set up in earnest, but that's the most comfortable for me. I'll most likely be quiet (unless sufficiently plied with liquor) the first time around, and it does take time.

Ah, the gentleman's way of meeting ladies. I suppose that is an accurate representation of wingman/woman. Although I suppose on a general level, women of that sort can be similar to Jane Austenite matchmakers outside of a pickup scene.

I suppose the only problem with the group introduction method (for better or worse) is that then you are limited to the friends of friends, and if there is a potential fallout, then friends usually can take on the added intrusion of relationship counselor.

Affligem is a speciality beer, and most likely wouldn't have it in the local shops. When you get your shipment, you must tell me what you think of it!
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[ElDanoMagnifico]

I would imagine most INTJ's, including myself, would be naturally unresponsive or more likely to be suspicious of un-necessary female contact. Although I've been in a relationship for 7+ years with an ISFJ so this could be my perspective.

I don't particularly feel the need for any physical contact from anyone who isn't my significant other. Even before meeting her, I always found the introduction to relationships to be the most difficult thing since it is always a game of figuring out their feelings, while revealing as little about myself as possible. Although, my significant other has likely used physical contact to draw out more from my Fe. Even after 7 years I still play my feelings close to the heart. While I'm rambling though, I notice I am more open to physical contact found in social rituals when the individual touching me has gained my approval with their knowledge or expertise. This might be because I view touching as a form of hierarchy (?) and it might upset me if someone touches me whom I don't ackowledge.

[Lacy]

Clever! :-)

For whatever it's worth, I sometimes need a hug to know just how interested I am in a guy. It saves me oodles of time and emotion: when the smart, funny, intensely masculine guy I think I might like to know better hugs me, I discover instantly whether he gives me the creeps or the flutters. Perhaps he discovers whether he'd like to know me better too.

Of course, this is just me!

Do you know what I like most about guys? They think and act like guys!!!! I also think men have very difficult lives and deserve the comforts a woman can uniquely provide.

Thanks for making me laugh with your fun response!!!!

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Oops! I forgot to quote Cincinnatus' response to my "hug" query!!! Sorry about that!!!