[buttbuttmcgutt]

(Posted on another forum)
*This is mostly in jest*

Every ENFP I've ever personally known has been someone I've wanted to perish in a tragic accident indirectly caused by myself. Things usually start out friendly in our relationships but, over time, their systems of personal ill-logic and Ne-crazy-bouncing-off-the-goddamn-walls just tends to get worse the longer I stick around. These are seriously the most irritating people I've ever been around, narrowly beating out the few sh*tty ESTJs I know. No easy feat but there are usually much simpler ways to deal with those people (usually entailing making them think that you're giving them what they want but not really).

ENFPs I know:
Older Brother - I hate the guy as much as I love him. Actually I might hate him slightly more.
Ex-Best friend/Love interest - In hindsight, I would have stayed the F**k away from her if I knew what I was dealing with way back when.
Gym buddy/associate - He's a jerk, but a friendly jerk. Cool enough to hang around, but at times you also want him to perish.
Co-worker - She's actually pretty hot, married, and a weirdo who I think is kind of halfway stalking me even though she's married. I'm not married, but not single/available either.


I haven't yet figured out a way to get any of them to f**k off, except by telling them that no one loves them or cares about their feelings.
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I want to take control of these situations. I want to have a permanent mental edge.

I want domination.

[Noelle]

Honestly, the best way to "self-destruct" the annoying ones is to simply ignore them. Don't answer their calls, don't give them any attention or reaction.

Healthier for all parties involved.

[mieu]

I'm confounded as to how anyone wants to be in your presence for more than 5 seconds in the first place. Do you rub chocolate all over yourself or something?

[Malkavia]

In my experience you normally have to throw glitter down to the bottom of a pool and tell them that if they can pick up all the glitter in one breath then a giant rainbow will come down and hit them.

Its worked on 2 so far.

Sources: I'm an ENFP. And experience.

[buttbuttmcgutt]

	Originally Posted by mieu To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I'm confounded as to how anyone wants to be in your presence for more than 5 seconds in the first place. Do you rub chocolate all over yourself or something?

Sometimes, I guess. Mainly on the weekend evenings, but sometimes I can get a little fudgety earlier in the week.


.....No?.... I did try.

[mieu]

	Originally Posted by buttbuttmcgutt To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Sometimes, I guess. Mainly on the weekend evenings, but sometimes I can get a little fudgety earlier in the week. .....No?.... I did try.

Can I come over?

[catzmeow]

As an ENFP, a person who expressed that kind of crap to me would turn me into an arch nemesis. I would make them bleed from a thousand tiny wounds.

Frankly, it's happened before.

I worked with a woman once who hated my very existence. I tried everything to get along with her, including repeatedly debasing myself in an effort to be polite and keep the peace. After about 3 years, I became resigned to the fact that she would be a bitch to me forever, and I basically turned to the dark side and focused my considerable talents on small provocations that made her go batshit.

We took personality (MBTI) tests in my agency shortly after I'd concluded that she would always demean and undermine me in front of our peers.

I used her MBTI profile (ISTJ) to invent new and ever more creative ways to torture her, while giving every superficial appearance of being incredibly nice and helpful.

After 3 years of putting up with her bullshit and being nice, in all honesty, it was strangely rewarding to watch her lose her shit.

I would be careful, if I were the OP. ENFPs give every appearance of farting rainbows and smelling like roses, but if we're cornered, we can be every bit as mean as an INTJ, and we can do it with a whole lot better sense of the emotional nuances of our victims.

[buttbuttmcgutt]

	Originally Posted by Malkavia To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	In my experience you normally have to throw glitter down to the bottom of a pool and tell them that if they can pick up all the glitter in one breath then a giant rainbow will come down and hit them. Its worked on 2 so far. Sources: I'm an ENFP. And experience.

You all like glitter and rainbows?? The ENFP dudes I know are burly and bully-esque.

*Tries to imagine fully-grown male playing with glitter*

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	Originally Posted by mieu To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Can I come over?

I'm not sure. You look a little horny.


I'm on a roll.

[catzmeow]

Beware the superficially fragile ENFP (or INFP). We have claws. And, a teflon exterior made of sunshine and fairy dust.

[buttbuttmcgutt]

Originally Posted by catzmeow To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

As an ENFP, a person who expressed that kind of crap to me would turn me into an arch nemesis. I would make them bleed from a thousand tiny wounds. Frankly, it's happened before. I worked with a woman once who hated my very existence. I tried everything to get along with her, including repeatedly debasing myself in an effort to be polite and keep the peace. After about 3 years, I became resigned to the fact that she would be a bitch to me forever, and I basically turned to the dark side and focused my considerable talents on small provocations that made her go batshit. We took personality (MBTI) tests in my agency shortly after I'd concluded that she would always demean and undermine me in front of our peers. I used her MBTI profile (ISTJ) to invent new and ever more creative ways to torture her, while giving every superficial appearance of being incredibly nice and helpful. After 3 years of putting up with her bullshit and being nice, in all honesty, it was strangely rewarding to watch her lose her shit. I would be careful, if I were the OP. ENFPs give every appearance of farting rainbows and smelling like roses, but if we're cornered, we can be every bit as mean as an INTJ, and we can do it with a whole lot better sense of the emotional nuances of our victims.

You bastard. I know exactly what you're capable of and I'm strengthening myself against what will be your fruitless attacks. You may have been seeing rainbows before hand but after I've gained the knowledge I need to defeat your kind, you'll be seeing....something uh...angry and like, not warm and fluffy at all.




I'm really not that serious though. I'm just trying to learn how to withstand your relative crazy, is all. If you don't like it, frankly I think I've succeeded a bit
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[catzmeow]

	Originally Posted by buttbuttmcgutt To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	You bastard. I know exactly what you're capable of and I'm strengthening myself against what will be your fruitless attacks. You may have been seeing rainbows before hand but after I've gained the knowledge I need to defeat your kind, you'll be seeing....something uh...angry and like, not warm and fluffy at all.

Wow, it's almost like you speak ENFP.

	I'm really not that serious though. I'm just trying to learn how to withstand your relative crazy, is all. If you don't like it, frankly I think I've succeeded a bit To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Does it help to know that the ENFPs are probably oblivious to their annoyingness? I mean, they probably aren't trying to force you to pluck all of your body hair in annoyance. Probably.

[buttbuttmcgutt]

Hmm. Perhaps I should concentrate my efforts on getting them to know that they're annoying. Somehow, I don't buy that they don't know how annoying they are though. Recalling my interactions with the ones I know, they're pretty keen on purposely getting under people's skin. They're pretty harmless overall, but still.


Coming up with nothing so far. I need answers.

[MyotisLucifugus]

	Originally Posted by buttbuttmcgutt To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Hmm. Perhaps I should concentrate my efforts on getting them to know that they're annoying.

I have no experience with Extroverted NFPs (that have actually identified as ENFP), but my best friend is INFP, and trust me when I say that they find us just as annoying. Some of the arguments we've gotten into (and then picked apart and laughed over a few days/weeks later) have been the stupidest and most pointless things ever, thanks to our very different ways of thinking.

Those ENFPs probably think you're a huge buttmunch who doesn't realize just how annoying he is.
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[followthehippos]

I'm a pro at destroying ENFPs, having accomplished such multiple times in my life I know how to take away from them what means most. Their dreams and the possibilities of such a reality. The closest of friends are the most capable of doing the most damage. You must become so close and so trusted by them that their deepest self is ever present before you. Then you must rip it all away destroy them and their trust. It is the only way.

Eventually they will drift into the land of self-consumed emotion, distancing themselves from all they care about, being easily manipulated by others, and so on and so forth.

Yeah I know, quite sickening.. The only difference is my efforts weren't intentional. It seems an ENFP falling in love with an INTJ gives the INTJ all keys to destroying them. My oh my how lonesome this world can be. Anyway, good luck on your diabolical efforts. If you desire more insights shoot me a PM. I'm sure this master plan can be developed.

[Samoan Corleone]

	Originally Posted by buttbuttmcgutt To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Ex-Best friend/Love interest - In hindsight, I would have stayed the F**k away from her if I knew what I was dealing with way back when.

I think every INTx knows one of those people, who shatters that mystique of the bubbly, friendly type by being shitty. I know I do. Where they're concerned, the best action is non-action. As Noelle Winters said, don't give them any attention. Don't answer their calls, don't reply to their emails, put them on your INTJf ignore list, etc.

[HeavyRain]

If you're willing to put in the effort, get close to them, set up a situation in which they will unintentionally offend or betray you in some way. Then flip your shit. Make sure to take blame for trusting them in the first place.

[buttbuttmcgutt]

Yes...

I'm a pro at destroying ENFPs, having accomplished such multiple times in my life I know how to take away from them what means most. Their dreams and the possibilities of such a reality. The closest of friends are the most capable of doing the most damage. You must become so close and so trusted by them that their deepest self is ever present before you. Then you must rip it all away destroy them and their trust. It is the only way. Eventually they will drift into the land of self-consumed emotion, distancing themselves from all they care about, being easily manipulated by others, and so on and so forth. Yeah I know, quite sickening.. The only difference is my efforts weren't intentional. It seems an ENFP falling in love with an INTJ gives the INTJ all keys to destroying them. My oh my how lonesome this world can be. Anyway, good luck on your diabolical efforts. If you desire more insights shoot me a PM. I'm sure this master plan can be developed.

Yeeesss.....

	Where they're concerned, the best action is non-action. As Noelle Winters said, don't give them any attention. Don't answer their calls, don't reply to their emails, put them on your INTJf ignore list, etc.

Yeeeeesssssss......

	If you're willing to put in the effort, get close to them, set up a situation in which they will unintentionally offend or betray you in some way. Then flip your shit. Make sure to take blame for trusting them in the first place.

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[followthehippos]

Oh, if you can turn their friends against them, you've probably officially taken even their smallest inkling of hope that is left. That is a great victory as well. I once got an ENFPs friend to side with me and it hacked her off quite a bit.

[buttbuttmcgutt]

Originally Posted by MyotisLucifugus To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I have no experience with Extroverted NFPs (that have actually identified as ENFP), but my best friend is INFP, and trust me when I say that they find us just as annoying. Some of the arguments we've gotten into (and then picked apart and laughed over a few days/weeks later) have been the stupidest and most pointless things ever, thanks to our very different ways of thinking. Those ENFPs probably think you're a huge buttmunch who doesn't realize just how annoying he is. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

In all likelihood, I'm very annoying. Thing is, I'm mainly interested in how other people come off to my perception, at this juncture.

What's kind of interesting about his whole thing is that my gf is INFP, and not at all annoying in the way that I hate ENFPs for being that annoying.

[moarcigarettes]

I personally find the INFP's to be the most annoying of the types...I honestly can not bare to listen to them talk about themselves for more than 2 minutes without extreme mental anguish.. Extrovert's entertain me for the most part..especially the sensing kind.

[buttbuttmcgutt]

	Originally Posted by followthehippos To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Oh, if you can turn their friends against them, you've probably officially taken even their smallest inkling of hope that is left. That is a great victory as well. I once got an ENFPs friend to side with me and it hacked her off quite a bit.

The ENFPs I know are friends with, like, everyone. Not to say that they don't have their own tiers of friend value within that, but I guess I'd have to do some research on who their besties are. Its pretty difficult trying to understand their criteria as well.

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	Originally Posted by moarcigarettes To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I personally find the INFP's to be the most annoying of the types...I honestly can not bare to listen to them talk about themselves for more than 2 minutes without extreme mental anguish.. Extrovert's entertain me for the most part..especially the sensing kind.

Are you sure you know what an INFP is, man(woman?)?
The INFPs I know are generally the complete opposite of that. I do know one who is kinda like that, but they're all typically pretty concerned about the well-being/whatever of those close to them. The first few months of my relationship with my GF, it was a colossal, daily, effort on my part just to get her to be comfortable enough to talk about her personal endeavors. She's rambles now, but that's like 2 years in.

[Moxiie]

Ha! Good luck with all that. Like Catz said, don't piss us off too much because the more evolved ones can rip your emotions apart with a precision that most find breathtaking and excrutiating - not unlike a razor cut that hurts after it's happened. I've had to do it on a number of occasions - and god forbid if said ENFP has low F in their make up, then we can access the dreaded T - which gives us a verbal and psychological edge in our exploitation of your interior insecurities and emotions, and despite what you INTJ's say, every human has emotions, even if you aren't in touch with them. I've purposely set out to piss off other people and it's so very easy as most people are shockingly easy to manipulate. We do have a dark side and it's not pretty.

And anytime someone wants to destroy someone else, it speaks to a fundamental weakness of character and a viciousness generally born from deep insecurity and an inability to socialize (in the sense of human socialization, read, sociopathy) with other humans.

But I've never quite understood those who set out destroy someone else based on such a flimsy premise.

Vaguely interesting in an "observing a high school boy posture" sort of way.

[catzmeow]

Originally Posted by followthehippos To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I'm a pro at destroying ENFPs, having accomplished such multiple times in my life I know how to take away from them what means most. Their dreams and the possibilities of such a reality. The closest of friends are the most capable of doing the most damage. You must become so close and so trusted by them that their deepest self is ever present before you. Then you must rip it all away destroy them and their trust. It is the only way. Eventually they will drift into the land of self-consumed emotion, distancing themselves from all they care about, being easily manipulated by others, and so on and so forth. Yeah I know, quite sickening.. The only difference is my efforts weren't intentional. It seems an ENFP falling in love with an INTJ gives the INTJ all keys to destroying them. My oh myhow lonesome this world can be. Anyway, good luck on your diabolical efforts. If you desire more insights shoot me a PM. I'm sure this master plan can be developed.

That strategy only works on young, relatively immature ENFPs. Older ENFPs are usually forced by the essential crappiness of life to limit our concerns about people to the ones we consider worthy of affection. And, if once deemed worthy, you betray the significant investment of our trust, a mature ENFP may make you pay, for years, in your settlement agreement.

Every month will be another small victory for her, and that winning will go on for years. Decades, even...through your personal bankruptcy, the loss of your home, the inevitable collapse of your subsequent relationships, and your lonely death (and the subsequent horror of having your corpse partially eaten by your pet rottweiler as you lie undiscovered in your crappy apartment for 3 days).

"hell hath no fury" may have been written about an ENFP woman. Though, I can't be positive. You know, that "illogical" Ne you people are always bitching about...

[buttbuttmcgutt]

	I've purposely set out to piss off other people and it's so very easy as most people are shockingly easy to manipulate.

This whole time, I knew you people were evil. This confession was all I needed to clear my conscience.

	And anytime someone wants to destroy someone else, it speaks to a fundamental weakness of character and a viciousness generally born from deep insecurity and an inability to socialize (in the sense of human socialization, read, sociopathy) with other humans.

I totally am insecure and am probably not great at socializing either, in most cases.

[followthehippos]

	Originally Posted by buttbuttmcgutt To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	This whole time, I knew you people were evil. This confession was all I needed to clear my conscience. I totally am insecure and am probably not great at socializing either, in most cases.

The ones that are easiest to take down are those lifted up in pride of their own invincibility. They never realize how far they can fall. ;P