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Old 04-21-2012, 11:07 PM   #1
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I had a dream in which I saw the most beautiful goldish tree with many small brown birds with pink lace on their wings. In front of the tree was a beautiful giant feathered serpent. It convinced me to trust it even though I felt like I was betraying God. Some people tried to come kill me but the serpent saved me. Than Moses came and said I needed to be put to death for befriending the serpent. I ran and called for the serpent to help me again but it didnt come this time. A wall blocked my way and I knew I could either try to escape or kneel down and pray. I prayed to God for forgiveness for betraying him for the serpent. Then I waited for Moses to kill me. He was about to slay me when something like a giant statue stopped him. This giant statue was God (I think). He told Moses not to kill me. Then He told me that my sins have been forgiven. I felt very relieved and happy when I woke up. Im not a very religious person though I do believe in a God. I have my own ideas for how this could be interpreted but Id like someone Else's input. I know this was not just any dream. So what do U think my mind is telling me? (Dont care if your Christian or Atheist. This is about what my brain is trying to tell me after all)
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Old 04-21-2012, 11:19 PM   #2
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Sounds to me like your brain is telling you to trust your fucking intuition. So now every time you get an intuitive hunch, I want you to analyze WHY your intuition was correct or incorrect so that you find REASON to trust it rather than blindly trusting it without questioning how it functions. And then question why that justification is sound justification, etc etc etc.
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Old 04-22-2012, 02:25 PM   #3
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I believe the only meaning to be found in dreams is in analyzing our interpretation of them. The actual interpretation is worthless.

However, I don't do this a lot with my own dreams (I tend to just ignore them) as I have enough problems to sort out in my conscious mind. I mostly just review my dreams as stress indicators, so a nasty dream where I'm late on an assignment or failing something are just me reliving my stress (worth knowing but best not to dwell on).
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Old 04-22-2012, 02:34 PM   #4
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Trusting in a person who you feel a parent or guardian would disprove of. The story mimics Adam and Eve some what. Moses would be the parental figure. I think the end result is that you need to make and learn from your own mistakes without being judged for it.
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Old 04-22-2012, 02:47 PM   #5
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I am no psychologist/expert or any kind of qualified person listen in this matters. However I will give you my interpretation:

You believe in God, but at the same time in "rational judgements" as an valid/desirable approach to life and decision making.
Serpent=reason, Tree=forbidden acts for religion (influence of the Adam and Eve biblical passage). Moses=conscience.

I would say you are in the dilemma between believing in god and being totally rational(you know, faith and rational judgements aren't compatible).

Follow what makes you feel the better, good luck
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Old 04-22-2012, 02:55 PM   #6
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Dreams to me are very valuable unconscious material. The only person who can interpret your dream is you, as a goldfish tree will have different meanings to different people.

What it represents to me will be different to the meaning your mind attaches to the tree.

Amplify what the images mean to you and ask what is my unconscious trying to tell me?
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Old 04-22-2012, 03:21 PM   #7
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Think very long and hard about what each individual symbol means to you.
Though I have found that
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is often very helpful when it comes to dream interpretation.

Just search for the symbol in the search box (i.e. serpent) or click on Dream Dictionary and find the symbol you're looking for through alphabetical order.

I've taken the liberty of looking up some of the symbols, and it looks like you're going through some spiritual advancements in your waking life.
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Old 04-22-2012, 04:13 PM   #8
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In my opinion,

You dont trust your own choices. Life presents you with a myriad of beautiful things to do, things that will make your life a beautiful garden full of life and wonderment.

But you feel guilty for thinking you can have these things and some external force or person blocks your way and presents you with dead and dated rules to live by.

Your first instinct was to ask for help from the beautiful things, but they cannot come to your aid, they have shown themselves to you and now you must go to them. The other alternative is to bow down and ask for forgiveness for thinking you could go and find some beauty in your life.

Maybe you feel relieved because you can live comfortably within the rules now, you don't have to take the risk to have an exceptional life.

But you will be basically dead.

(i made this all up, I could be wrong)
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Old 04-22-2012, 05:54 PM   #9
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You can get to the bottom of things using some free association. Get your mind very relaxed, with no real thinking going on. Then think of that blue serpent, then notice the absolute next thing that comes into your mind. Doing this with various aspects of the dream can give you some clues about what in the waking world your mind was describing.
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Old 04-22-2012, 06:01 PM   #10
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I've never bought into dream analysis at all. I feel like you can make a story/meaning for anything... and since none of it is science, it's almost worthless. All the dreams I've written down and have remembered have further cemented this opinion. I've read (I forgot where) that one theory about dreaming is stimulus/"entertainment" for the mind while it's otherwise shut off. Those who go through sensory deprivation for long periods of time report mental sluggishness, and those who lose senses experience it even further. Dreaming is then a perfect logical mechanism to keep the semi-conscious mind busy. A lot of my dreams are of almost no damn meaning (like I recently had a dream where the only thing to happen in it was I received a package and they shipped me too much and charged me for the extra. I didn't order that... so I was going to work on sending it back, then I woke up. Another tiny one was a cat sized fox showed up to our house and wanted us to adopt it. It was so cute, but we already had 2 pets and it was wild. No decision was made and I woke up. Tell me what those are supposed to mean)
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Old 04-22-2012, 06:15 PM   #11
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i think that your mind isnt trying to tell you anything, its just a cool creative idea you had in a dream. I dont think dreams are the medium for your mind to secret tell you things that you dont consciously know about.
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Old 04-22-2012, 06:38 PM   #12
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  Originally Posted by Nameless
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I've never bought into dream analysis at all. I feel like you can make a story/meaning for anything... and since none of it is science, it's almost worthless.

Do you think the same thing about television shows or movies, that they have no effect on you or don't change you in some way?

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i think that your mind isnt trying to tell you anything, its just a cool creative idea you had in a dream. I dont think dreams are the medium for your mind to secret tell you things that you dont consciously know about.

I disagree to some extent, I reckon dreams confirm things you have taken in, like an exclamation mark. I usually wake up from message dreams with a "yeah, that's it, I know it" kind of thought or feeling.

I think it is strange that you have a brain that can create a whole world in such excrutiating detail. It's like you have a whole Universe inside your head. And what do you think that part of the brain is doing while you are awake?

 

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Old 04-22-2012, 07:30 PM   #13
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Sounds like a sexual dream. Serpents, death, etc all represent sex.
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Old 04-22-2012, 07:47 PM   #14
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Pretty cool dream and you recall a lot of detail. I never remember anything more than a few scattered fragments of dreams.

It would be interesting if the dream recurs.
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Old 04-22-2012, 07:52 PM   #15
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Dreams can be symbolic and prophetic in nature. The one that you had is typically a representation of serious conflicts within ourselves revolving around choices. The serpent in Fredian psychology is regarded as a male sexual symbol and therefore the primal aspect of one's personality. In Jungian psychology, it is an archetypal symbol of the things we normally fear, but at same time possesses vast knowledge (i.e. the serpent in the tree of knowledge, and the serpent in the common symbol for medicine). it could be that your encounter with the serpent and the consequence of being punished by Moses may symbolize your lack of confidence in your own knowledge and choices, and your overwhelming concern of what will follow inevitably at the end of it (the wall). Moses is often associated as the deliverer of the Ten Commandments and therefore likely the symbol of (moral) authority. Your being condemned by him somehow may indicate that you are aware that what you are about to do maybe unorthodox and there maybe serious repercussions. Now a symbol for God as you've said appears and tells you that you are forgiven and therefore spared of execution. In archetypal terms, "God" is supposedly our "higher self" that possesses all the qualities of perfection that we yearn (wisdom, omnipotence, omniscience). God saving you from execution is your "higher self" telling you to have faith in your own knowledge and intuition in dealing with whatever situation it is that has been bothering you. On the prophetic side, your confidence in your own handling of the situation may actually yield to positive results (God forgiving you and you being so happy). In short, you're man enough to do what a man has to do so do it.

My interpretation is based from my understanding of Jungian psychology so it may not be fully accurate. The best person to interpret the dream is you, if you can figure out what the individual symbols mean to you personally.

 

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Old 04-23-2012, 02:37 AM   #16
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Uhm, probably nothing. People have crazy dreams all the time.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:57 AM   #17
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I think that the way to interpret this is to take into account what was happening to you in your life at the time of the dream. Such powerful representations could have stemmed from some life conflict, dilemma, or change in attitude/new choices/explorations of what was forbidden before.

 

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Old 04-23-2012, 10:53 AM   #18
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  Originally Posted by Knighthkm
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I had a dream in which I saw the most beautiful goldish tree with many small brown birds with pink lace on their wings. In front of the tree was a beautiful giant feathered serpent. It convinced me to trust it even though I felt like I was betraying God. Some people tried to come kill me but the serpent saved me. Than Moses came and said I needed to be put to death for befriending the serpent. I ran and called for the serpent to help me again but it didnt come this time. A wall blocked my way and I knew I could either try to escape or kneel down and pray. I prayed to God for forgiveness for betraying him for the serpent. Then I waited for Moses to kill me. He was about to slay me when something like a giant statue stopped him. This giant statue was God (I think). He told Moses not to kill me. Then He told me that my sins have been forgiven. I felt very relieved and happy when I woke up. Im not a very religious person though I do believe in a God. I have my own ideas for how this could be interpreted but Id like someone Else's input. I know this was not just any dream. So what do U think my mind is telling me? (Dont care if your Christian or Atheist. This is about what my brain is trying to tell me after all)

The Biblical theme was just a wrapper - symbols that you are familiar with.

My guess is that you have a lot of guilt for something in your life lately. You feel as if you have utterly failed in some way, or otherwise wronged someone. You may not even know what you did wrong, but you certainly have a nebulous sensation of failure/disappointment.

Have any family members or loved ones been criticizing you lately?

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Old 04-23-2012, 02:48 PM   #19
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By sheer coincidence, or not, a few hours after I read your post, the following article appeared in the Chicago Tribune:

Dreams are true, says 'dreamologist'
Metaphysics school offers weekend of dream interpretation


After Laurel Clark's husband died nearly 12 years ago, she had three "profound" dreams about him.

"It wasn't theoretical whether he was actually there," she said. "I could feel his presence. I knew he was there."

Clark recognizes that some people might believe that this type of dream is simply a person's subconscious filling a void. But as a dream interpreter who has doctorates in divinity and metaphysics, she believes dreams possess much deeper meaning, can reveal loads about a person's waking life and tap into spiritual realms we don't fully understand.

Clark is president of the School of Metaphysics, which next weekend is hosting its 24th annual National Dream Hotline. From 6 p.m. Friday through midnight Sunday, dream interpreters will be available at a hotline (417-345-8411) to interpret dreams or answer questions about them.

The nonprofit school, headquartered in Missouri, has 16 satellite offices in the Midwest, including in Chicago, Palatine and Bolingbrook, where "dreamologists" will offer on-site interpretations. The school also is launching a dream app, a version of which is free.



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Old 04-25-2012, 01:09 PM   #20
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You all have very interesting theories. As to you who think a dream is nothing, I know that is wrong. I study a lot about neuroscience and know dreams are what you experience when your brain is "fixing" its self. It can do you a lot of benefit to try and figure out why you dreamed something. In most cases it will help you understand yourself and your own thought process which I find useful.

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The Biblical theme was just a wrapper - symbols that you are familiar with.

My guess is that you have a lot of guilt for something in your life lately. You feel as if you have utterly failed in some way, or otherwise wronged someone. You may not even know what you did wrong, but you certainly have a nebulous sensation of failure/disappointment.

Have any family members or loved ones been criticizing you lately?

Yes. Im quite young right now and making many life decisions. Most my family are Christian but Im a little more logical than that (no offense to anyone). They dont approve of a lot because I base decisions off of logic rather than faith.

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and yes I am aware my brain was using a biblical theme because thats what I am familiar with.

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