[Autumnleaf]

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Thought some of you might be interested in this. I've heard brain cancer was also a possible consequence but that is not what this article is about. Its about your body being able to make illegal-like drugs to change your consciousness.

[davai]

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	Its about your body being able to make illegal-like drugs to change your consciousness.

And astrology basically, which science will no doubt claim the credit for if it's proven. I'm a bit sceptical of all the 2012 stuff though, but at least we don't have long to find out.

[IncorrectLabel]

	However, all facts and findings add up to the undeniable conclusion that this evolution will for the first time in human history enable us human beings to use the enormous potential of our brains.

I can only imagine what crime will be like with a bunch of super brains walking around...

" Today on CNN Jameson has forever warped reality as we know it...."

[CREB]

It would be interesting to see the correlation between cosmic activity and changes in, for example, the neural circuitry of the frontal cortex, that is, if cosmic-associated stimuli does indeed gives rise to change in the neurobiology of the 'planning neurons'. From first glance however, these stimuli seems to be broad spectrum thus Hebb's postulate, from my perspective, serves as a better explanation for changes in behavior and the decision making process. Many recent findings also strongly suggest a strong correlation between LTP and decision making following acquisition, consolidation, and recall.

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I'm not a expert in any of this but I will say that it has already been proven that the sun has behavioral effects on human as well as provides necessary vitamins for human after exposure.

I wouldn't find this shocking one bit.

[ummon]

What solar geomagnetic storm is he referring to? So far, 2012 hasn't been that unusual in solar activity.

[davai]

	Originally Posted by ummon To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	What solar geomagnetic storm is he referring to? So far, 2012 hasn't been that unusual in solar activity.

It's the whole Mayan prophecy thing probably, apparently scheduled for 21/12/12.

[Sk8ordude]

Electromagnetic fluctuations in the brain can trigger a state of "enlightenment". I'm not sure if the relative positions of the Earth, Sun, and galaxy can do this but if they did it would interesting.

[Kisai]

Murr hurr durr hurr electromagnetic pangyric astronomical dehurping influences on me brain. Furr hurr durr hurr tinfoil hat. Mah harr de farr radiation drops off inversely proportional to the square of the distance no me understand. Magh harr defarr Earth's magnetic field is 1.5 microTeslas. Murr hurr transcranial magnetic therapy MAH HURR 30,000 TIMES GREATER in strength than Earth's field.

Derping.

[Polymath20]

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Murr hurr durr hurr electromagnetic pangyric astronomical dehurping influences on me brain. Furr hurr durr hurr tinfoil hat. Mah harr de farr radiation drops off inversely proportional to the square of the distance no me understand. Magh harr defarr Earth's magnetic field is 1.5 microTeslas. Murr hurr transcranial magnetic therapy MAH HURR 30,000 TIMES GREATER in strength than Earth's field. Derping.

Certain frequencies of radio waves can induce feelings of paranoia or a "presence". It was reproduced in a controlled environment. I think only about 30% of people are susceptible to it.

[DrCiao]

	Originally Posted by Polymath20 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Certain frequencies of radio waves can induce feelings of paranoia or a "presence". It was reproduced in a controlled environment. I think only about 30% of people are susceptible to it.

Interesting. Do you remember where you read it? I did read somewhere that certain people, who've had traumatic experiences or undergone anesthesia are more susceptible to EMF frequencies.

[INTJRyan]

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	Interesting. Do you remember where you read it? I did read somewhere that certain people, who've had traumatic experiences or undergone anesthesia are more susceptible to EMF frequencies.

He might be referring to Persinger's
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[Kisai]

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	Certain frequencies of radio waves can induce feelings of paranoia or a "presence". It was reproduced in a controlled environment. I think only about 30% of people are susceptible to it.

You're going to have to be a bit more clear in your arguments if you wish to be convincing.

What frequencies? What intensities? What experiments? What control group?

[Polymath20]

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	Interesting. Do you remember where you read it? I did read somewhere that certain people, who've had traumatic experiences or undergone anesthesia are more susceptible to EMF frequencies.

I can't remember. I tried searching for it. I think the frequency was 4GHz.

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	He might be referring to Persinger's To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. .

Yes, this is the experiment I think.

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	You're going to have to be a bit more clear in your arguments if you wish to be convincing. What frequencies? What intensities? What experiments? What control group?

See above.


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Apparently, neurologists already use magnetism to influence brain function (Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation, TMS) - and even the use of cell phones can briefly alter brainwaves. This sets an important precedent. It therefore stands to reason that other frequencies and signal types could have a measurable impact on brainwaves.

[davai]

I'm sure I remember seeing a video of Richard Dawkins after using that God Helmet. He claimed, I think, that it had no effect on him, although the look on his face certainly suggested otherwise.

Edit:
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I wasn't totally correct in saying it had no effect on him though.

[Polymath20]

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He seemed very disoriented in the "post-op" interview.

[Kisai]

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	IApparently, neurologists already use magnetism to influence brain function (Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation, TMS) - and even the use of cell phones can briefly alter brainwaves. This sets an important precedent. It therefore stands to reason that other frequencies and signal types could have a measurable impact on brainwaves.

Right. I'm not arguing about if or if not electromagnetic frequencies have an affect on the human mind. I mentioned the intensities of TMS in my goofy post and compared it to the strength of the Earth's magnetic field. The OP's article suggests that electromagnetism from a 2012 solar storm will alter the brainwave patterns of humans on Earth. Solar storms can bathe the Earth in magnetic intensity from 589-1900 nanoTeslas
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. Do you think this is enough magnetic flux density to affect human consciousness?

[mieu]

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	Certain frequencies of radio waves can induce feelings of paranoia or a "presence". It was reproduced in a controlled environment. I think only about 30% of people are susceptible to it.

Do you mean infrasound?

[Oros Ull]

I’m sure electromagnetism has an effect on our minds. Somehow I doubt that it will be the direct cause of Human Enlightenment though, at least not immediately maybe over a few thousand years or something if the sun did hold some kind of specialized higher design for doing so.

But this sounds like another unfounded New Age delusion of immediate enlightenment to me. I’ve come across a million theories like this on the conspiracy forums, 99% of which is utter crap.

Maybe I’m wrong. I hope so, enlightenment would be pretty sweet.

[davai]

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	But this sounds like another unfounded New Age delusion of immediate enlightenment to me.

Yeah, it's the hippie dream to have everything handed to them on a plate. No mo'erfucker, you gotta work for it instead of sittin' on yo lazy ass smokin' 'erb happily collectin' government handouts while at the same time complainin' about the 'oppressive regime' you're livin' under. Times like this I wanna wear a Thatcher mask and
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them until they bleed.

[PlatoHagel]

	Michael Persinger has a vision - the Almighty isn't dead, he's an energy field. And your mind is an electromagnetic map to your soul.

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Back then the question for me was leading in terms of Transactional Analysis and Penfield(
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). A constructive approach to neurological association while stimulation is applied to the brain. This would induce images for the patient and allowed for mapping of regions of the brain. A beginning.


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[RBM]

	Originally Posted by Autumnleaf To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Thought some of you might be interested in this. I've heard brain cancer was also a possible consequence but that is not what this article is about. Its about your body being able to make illegal-like drugs to change your consciousness.

This article presumes that consciousness is only and entirely in the brain.

Consciousness research has put that assumption up for questions, to put in mildly.

[davai]

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	This article presumes that consciousness is only and entirely in the brain. Consciousness research has put that assumption up for questions, to put in mildly.

What difference would acknowledging this make?

[RBM]

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	What difference would acknowledging this make?

Mere acknowledgement would make no difference.

Work would be required to make a difference, in the form of an 'adequate response':

The question then arises as to whether using our brains more efficiently will enable us to find an adequate response to the events of 2012. First of all, we need to realize that the brain and the mind are two different things. The mind can influence brain activity and vegetative processes by means of highly unusual suggestions, the most striking example being Buddhist masters whose ability to meditate enables them to put their brains in a tranquil state that palliates pain and that can even stop the beating of the heart.

The author may not, personally hold the assertion I made, but that's the approach I see in the article:

	But where, then, is the seat of the mind, this mysterious locus of self awareness that amalgamates intuition, common sense, emotions and the intellect? For the moment I will leave it to neurologists to figure this out — although I will have more to say about this issue later on.

[Polymath20]

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Right. I'm not arguing about if or if not electromagnetic frequencies have an affect on the human mind. I mentioned the intensities of TMS in my goofy post and compared it to the strength of the Earth's magnetic field. The OP's article suggests that electromagnetism from a 2012 solar storm will alter the brainwave patterns of humans on Earth. Solar storms can bathe the Earth in magnetic intensity from 589-1900 nanoTeslas To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. . Do you think this is enough magnetic flux density to affect human consciousness?

Possibly. Scientists in Russia recently isolated mice from the natural magnetic field, essentially in a Faraday cage, and over time they noticed the mice became more hostile, poorer working memory, and other personality changes, as compared against a control group. It stands to reason that any measurable change in the natural magnetic field we are used to could have an impact - though not likely a significant one.
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Also, sailors have long told stories about moods changing vastly based on the cardinal direction of travel.

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	Do you mean infrasound?

No. Infrasound, like that generated by elephants for communication, probably doesn't have as much of a direct impact on human brains. Even the vibration from driving a car likely has minimal effect because it's not electrical energy.