[dellai]

	Originally Posted by thod To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	That's the problem with neutrino bars. Supposing one could find the energy for these things, there is still the problem of finding the time.

neutrino bars = mass (m)
one could find the energy for these things = E
finding the time = No physical object, message or field line can travel faster than the speed of light in a vacuum.

Is this happen to be the "theory of relativity" as in E=mc2 ? Please .... please, it took me 4 hours to figure this out, let this be right!!!

[Zodd]

A latino that isn't in a gang?

[dellai]

	Originally Posted by Zodd To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	A latino that isn't in a gang?

If you know the answer, could you please give it to me? I need to work tomorrow and I can't sleep if I don't know the answer and I feel that Thod is not coming back today. If you don't know could you be so nice to ask for a Physicist in the chatroom as I'm not allowed to go there yet?

[Zodd]

Sorry, I don't know much about what people do here for proffession. I think maybe Kisai might know, but he isn't online. If it is something you really need now, maybe you could ask people who post a lot in the science forum if they know people who could help you.

---------- Post added 04-15-2012 at 11:35 PM ----------

I've been skimming through this thread a bit and it reminds me of what this guy discovered in Holland. I saw him explain it on TV. I wonder if it is the same thing he talks about and has discovered but it is a different name, maybe the Dutch translation.

He is Leo Kouwenhoven from Delft university.

A Majorana-fermion = (1 elektron + 1 gat)/2 .

On the tv-show he explained that if they had a copper wire as thin as approximately a nanameter. At a point in the wire they put this chemicals around the wire and at the end they put another set of chemicals around the wire but only half around it. That created a mirror image of some things that popped up but this Majorana particle showed up but it wasn't mirrored. The Majorana also had a negative Majorana. But the Majoranas both were 0. There has been theories about the Majorana existing but no proof, he was able too get an electric signal from the positive Majorana (or if I guess he proofed it got electrical resistance).

He said he got sponsored by Microsoft and Microsoft did that so they got more easily get license on nano-technology. In about 50 years maybe he said computers could be reinvented because of what he discovered because Majoranas could be used for a whole new way of information processing, on nanalevel, with quantums or something.

[dellai]

Do you mean
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I'm not sure what it will do for my solution to the joke here, but it is indeed quite interesting in the field of quantum computing. Another thing Leo Kouwenhoven researched is a new measurement of electrons. It is a tube with the width of 1 nanometer. When they let the tube resonate on a very high frequency it is theoretically able to sense the landing of 1 electron by analyzing the sound of the tubes amplitude.

[Zodd]

Yeah that is it, they showed that little animationvideo on tv also, though he tried too explain it using lego.

[ModernLit]

	Originally Posted by thod To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	That's the problem with neutrino bars.

bwahaha! :D :D :D

when they first discovered them, it was sort of a radical new thing. they're neat. space is neat. doesn't NASA tell you things about neutrinos?

[thod]

	let this be right!!!

Nah, it was a reference to the energy-time uncertainty principle.

[ummon]

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I'm sorry but due to your answers I went on a rampage to find the terms you mentioned Tuesday. The only thing I remember from the formula was that it looked like it has two strange looking "Z"'s in it. The formula is really short like: outcome = something (strange looking Z) + something divided by (strange looking Z). This sounds possibly ridicule, but you might never know that you might remember the formula by using this description. Another thing I do want to mention is that these Neutrinos apparently going straight through the earth and are actually measured when they arrive at the other site of the earth!

Yeah since I'm not too familiar with particle physics, I can't recognize that formula. But definitely the conservation of lepton number is the biggest reason for the existence of neutrinos.

It's amazing that the neutrinos go through the earth. This is why the physicists at CERN had their work cut out for them, as to compare neutrino speeds to the speed of light, they had to calculate how long light would have taken to pass through the earth if the earth were transparent. :D

Thanks for your time to open up, I understand it better now. It's part of something much larger than I could imagine, I would possible be delighted to work on something like that as well if I wasn't a creative. So, it might be that she's an INTP? I've got a bit more information for you to determine if you don't mind. She is actually working on the Antaris telescope, which isn't a real telescope, but more like a detector shield of some kind in the ocean at the depth of 2400 meters. Part of her job is to - if I understood well - filter out all false lights in the ocean coming from cosmic radiation other than Neutrinos and shrimps and stuff. So, part of her work is to write this software code which filters out all stuff who could be influencing the results and the other pert is actually researching this neutrinos field. I currently know that she is in fact not working for CERN but for an Atomic institute which uses CERN as one of their bases to work from as Neutrinos are part of a theory called 'black matter' which is used in the research of the higgs boson particle. I'm getting good at this ;-)

Yeah she's probably INTP (though she could also be INTJ). And I'm seriously jealous of her now. That ANTARES telescope is ubercool and working on software to filter out background radiation must be an amazing job for a scientist. Every once in a while, a neutrino hitting the water will create a muon in the water and by seeing the light trail left by the muon, ANTARES will be able to figure out the direction from which the neutrino came. This will let them "map" out neutrino sources in the sky.

I'm not up to scratch on the Higg's boson (apparently it's another particle predicted by the standard model which hasn't been observed yet). I know that it connects with a lot of stuff in physics, but not sure how.

But here's a description of dark matter: physicists can look at space and locate "matter" (i.e. stuff) by its gravitational effects on the movements of astronomical objects. They found that the gravitational effects were greater than that of all the matter that we can see. Thus, the theory of "dark matter" i.e. matter that doesn't reflect light. It is believed that neutrinos might be a major part of dark matter.

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	Originally Posted by thod To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	That's the problem with neutrino bars. Supposing one could find the energy for these things, there is still the problem of finding the time. (I will let you explain the humor since I believe you to be a physicist in disguise.)

Err? Are you referring to the Feynman interpretation of antiparticles as particles going back in time?

(Note for others: antiparticles are denoted by adding a bar over the symbol, so a neutrino bar would refer to an antineutrino).

Edit: Oh I see uncertainty principle haha.

[Latro]

	Originally Posted by ummon To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I'm not up to scratch on the Higg's boson (apparently it's another particle predicted by the standard model which hasn't been observed yet). I know that it connects with a lot of stuff in physics, but not sure how.

At my handwaving level of understanding, it's the "quantum of mass", that is its interaction with particles which do not otherwise have mass imparts them mass.

[mllebrie]

Neutrinos. Sounds like a kid's granola snack or something.

[dellai]

	Originally Posted by thod To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Nah, it was a reference to the energy-time uncertainty principle.

Bummer, so far for the "being a physicist in disguise" theory
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Originally Posted by ummon To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Yeah she's probably INTP (though she could also be INTJ). And I'm seriously jealous of her now. That ANTARES telescope is ubercool and working on software to filter out background radiation must be an amazing job for a scientist. Every once in a while, a neutrino hitting the water will create a muon in the water and by seeing the light trail left by the muon, ANTARES will be able to figure out the direction from which the neutrino came. This will let them "map" out neutrino sources in the sky.

I suppose it would be ubercool if you're really into it and she is working on this research for 11 years already. I guess you need a lot of patience working in the physicist field before seeing any results. Good things happen to whom are willing to wait should be their motto
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	Originally Posted by mllebrie To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Neutrinos. Sounds like a kid's granola snack or something.

More like a diet snack if I got the story right
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[PlatoHagel]

Hope this helps.

There had to be some corrections in my own thinking. So this is provided as one makes their way through new scientific processes that have come on line.

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GRB's were held in my mind as a motivated expression but as you can see some of these things have been ruled out?


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