[Fox]

I started one about online dating complaints might as well do one for jobs. Same formula. Post your complaints about jobs you are applying for and the interviews. I'll start off with a couple.

Complaint - Seeking Over qualified for a Entry Level Role.
I saw a job for a Part-time assistant. I see that and I thinking okay that is geared more towards someone trying to break in. A career change would be nice. You're there to aide the expert but they only need you half of the time. That sounds entry level like. Reading the fine print they are seeking 3+ years of direct experience. If you've got over 3 years experience you are more qualified to be a full-time employee without the assistant title. I've seen similar jobs ask for even more years of experience.

Complaint - Stop following the Corporate Questionnaire & give me real interview.
I show up. We shake hand and they interview me by following the questionnaire. They never go off. There's no follow up question to my answers. They just write down the answers. How about you try to have a conversation with me.

Complaint - Read my Resume before bringing me in.
Yes I know you are busy but didn't you read my resume before calling me? Didn't you take at least 5 minutes to look at my resume a few hours before I came in. It is rude to read it for what I assume is the first time in front of me. I just love it when I see that look in your eye when your reading it and realize my experience isn't what you are looking for.

[Polymath20]

	Originally Posted by Fox To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Complaint - Seeking Over qualified for a Entry Level Role.

Employers are fucking spoiled right now and there are so many people desperate for work. Short-sighted employers will cherry pick someone overqualified for a position. This person will inevitably be bored and pissed off because they are under-employed and will leave as soon as they find something better.

Complaint - No employers willing to train

My worst experience so far is that most employers seem to want a cookie-cutter employee. Someone who already knows everything they will need for the job. A single discrepancy between the resume and the job description and they won't consider you. They don't care how capable people are, they just assume that everyone is a hardly-functioning automaton incapable of dynamic reasoning.

Caveat - small shops and contractors are the only ones who do look for exceptional talent/ability/intelligence. Unfortunately, these guys are too unstable for my tastes

[Fox]

Originally Posted by Polymath20 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Complaint - No employers willing to train My worst experience so far is that most employers seem to want a cookie-cutter employee. Someone who already knows everything they will need for the job. A single discrepancy between the resume and the job description and they won't consider you. They don't care how capable people are, they just assume that everyone is a hardly-functioning automaton incapable of dynamic reasoning. Caveat - small shops and contractors are the only ones who do look for exceptional talent/ability/intelligence. Unfortunately, these guys are too unstable for my tastes

Many times those jobs aren't that really complicated. Like I have a degree and five years experience with "Thing-ma-jigs." I'm going for a job with "Do-Hickies" it's not the same exact thing but essential it is the same job. Just a different industry/product. Anyone who knows about "Think-ma-jigs" should be able to learn about "Do-Hickies."

[Thinker]

An interviewee requesting to skype from their yacht moored in Fiji....seriously.
He complained that they couldn't leave Fiji because of a cyclone in their path to Brisbane....life's tough.

[Osmobot]

An unreasonably long application/interview process. 3+ months between applying for a job, and knowing if you got it or not is way too long.

[eli]

My complaint about job advertisements is that they all seem to contain the words dynamic, team-player, winning-personality. How about smart or hard-working? Would that suffice?

[Fox]

	Originally Posted by eli To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	My complaint about job advertisements is that they all seem to contain the words dynamic, team-player, winning-personality. How about smart or hard-working? Would that suffice?

How a "Rock Star"? Some job ads will put "Rock Star" in front the job's title. Rock Star Plumber, Rock Star Vice President & Rock Star Paralegal. Other ads try to be very creative with their new buzz words and sentences. Describing their job as being for "someone who takes no prisoners but loves it do the Hokey Pokey every day at 3 pm?

[teri]

how about human resource managers who conduct the initial interviews-often they do not have the first clue about what it takes do the job, but you have to get past them to get the real interview.

[Polymath20]

	Originally Posted by teri To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	how about human resource managers who conduct the initial interviews-often they do not have the first clue about what it takes do the job, but you have to get past them to get the real interview.

That's a good point. Not to mention recruiters. They're like car salesman who know nothing about cars.

[Heartfire]

My complaint

Generic buzzwords in job advertisements

If your job advertisement contains the words young and dynamic close together, please go shoot yourself.

[Fishism]

As an employer I will comment...

	Originally Posted by Fox To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Complaint - Seeking Over qualified for a Entry Level Role

This is due to what Polymath says, that employers are "spoiled" due to a large labour market due to high unemployment rates. Supply of good labour is high, demand for good labour is low, therefore price for good labor decreases. We will interview qualified people until we find someone who will "settle" for the position we offer. Why wouldn't an employer do this?

	Originally Posted by Fox To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Complaint - Stop following the Corporate Questionnaire & give me real interview.

There are many rules about what one can and can't ask during interviews. In fact, there are so many rules that a small business that doesn't have an actual "human resource department", will stick to prepared questionaires so they don't make a mistake leading to a labor relations complaint. Then, after the interview, they'll go back to their regular job of CEO/Janitor/Clerk.

	Originally Posted by Fox To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Complaint - Read my Resume before bringing me in.

There's just no excuse for this. It's a waste of everyone's time.

As for the "Employer's not willing to train" it goes back to the first complaint of "Seeking Overqualified Entry Level Role". Training is a time consuming and costly expense, so the least amount of that an employer has to do, the better. If there are many applicants, finding the one that will require the least amount of training is simply common sense.

Plus, training can often be considered an investment that takes time to generate a return. In a high turnover job market, where loyalty and organizational commitment are hard to find, those investments are not to be taken lightly.

[Polymath20]

The only counter argument I have for not seeking the right person for the job (i.e. hiring overqualified persons) is that as soon as they find something better, they will fly out the door.

Depending on how that person got in the door - in my case through recruiters - this provides a loss for everyone involved except the contractor. The employer still had to pay fees to the recruiter for getting me in the door, and then more to replace me, plus it makes the headhunter look like a slouch.

If the company instead hired the right person for the job, the person will not be as bored, not be frustrated by a lower salary, and therefore has a higher chance of remaining loyal.

[Atamagahen]

I do have a complaint for the rejection of my application.
Apparently, I was supposed to answer the questions in a certain way...so if I would have lied on one of the questions I would have gotten the job. Granted it's not the type of job I'd admire, but it's an occupation nonetheless.
The truth would reveal itself anyways if I or anyone else were to be hired, I don't understand the point of simply lying to look good when it comes to getting a job, it doesn't change efficiency. My word is something I hold in high regard, it seems as if the employers don't feel the same way.

[o7xx12]

Employers who make you take a personality test before considering you. So, even if you qualify professionally, you may not qualify personally (how is that not borderline discrimination?). Introverts are probably SOL for any company requiring those tests before hiring.

[AnotherAvatar]

Put me in front of an owner, I get an offer. Put HR in the way, I don't get a call.

The disconnect is in HR wanting buddies, pals, and friend to fit in, the owners need guys that can get it done.

As long as employers hire on whim rather then need, this bullshit will continue.

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The problem I think is companies hiring who they want, rather then who they need.

The disconnect can be explained this way....

Aliens are landing...you need Navy Seals to kill them, but instead HR hire buddies and pals, you get slaughtered, because you know, the Navy Seals didn't fit the company culture.

HR hires pals, owners hire mercs. Ponder the difference when it actually makes a difference in who you hire, as opposed to filling a bullshit position where a Pomeranian could get the job done.

[John F Kennedy]

Complaint: Why is the last question on an interview always "What was the last movie you watched?" Is this to check that I am "normal"? That I prefer movies to books? That I am not so totally broke that I can't spend $10?

Complaint: Please don't ask me what animal I would like to be if I had to be one. I already am an animal!!

[Fox]

Complaint - Ad with Legitimate Job Title. Pay is Salary + bonus based on performance = Actual job is commission sales.

[themuzicman]

Complaint: "Behavioral" interview: "Tell me about a time when you..." Formulated questions designed to gauge answers. SO easy to spot. SO easy to knock out of the park.

Complaint: Stop looking for "certifications." They're nothing more than "Can I answer X trivia about Y" tests.

Complaint: Don't list every job requirement that might possibly be needed. If you're not expecting me to be an SAP expert, but that I might have to interact with the SAP team on an Oracle issue, don't list SAP experience. Or at least move it to "it would be nice to have."

You aren't going to find someone with:

Oracle DBA (cert)
JAVA coding
Data modeler
Windows server administrator (cert)
SAP Basis
MUMPS programming
SQL 2008 (cert)
C++ coding
Version control management
DB2 performance tuning
Beer tasting expert...

Pick what core competencies you want, and leave the rest off.. or at least in an "would like" section

[porousshield]

Complaint:Interviewing me for a job they have no intention of giving me or anyone else that is being interviewed. (Heard through the grapevine they had a person in mind and lo and behold that person was the one hired) I really hate interviewing for teaching jobs.

Complaint: Interviewing for teaching jobs is a terrible way of finding the right person. I have no idea what would be better but they need to come up with something. I had a great intern this year. They'll make a great teacher somewhere but she lost the job at my school to some flaky twit who has no intention of coming back for another year (this little incident made me fed up with our current administration and leading to the first complaint).

[Fox]

Complaint - By the way this is Temp job.

What the ad didn't say that. The HR person on the phone didn't say that. Now that I come in you're telling me it is a Temp job?

[Ethos]

Complaint - Seeing right through obvious lies or omissions on the nature of the position being applied.

(mostly found out after 30 days on the job) I doubt this happens much anymore because employers have hoards of applicants. (The last time I applied for a job was in 2008 before the 2nd burst)

[Fox]

I've got two this time.

Complaint - What do you know about our charity work? Well goodbye.
I find in general my interviews go better when I'm being interviewed by the potential new boss other than a HR person. Even when I'm not hired it still a better experience. I was asked by a HR type what I know about their company. I recite the basic facts everyone knows about them. "What do you know about our charity & volunteer work?" Not that much. Two minutes later they started talking about how they had more people to interview today and started wrapping it up. Since when is knowing about charity work of the company is involved with a requirement for employment?

Complaint - Apply in Person only
I call that the way we discriminate. You never know if the job's still available or that they took one look at you. Decide you're too black, too Mexican, too fat or have too many tattoos and they are just lying that the job's been filled.

[Samson86]

i have learn to be a chameleon and i always get the job i want it's all about fitting in to their little circle and because i know people pretty well i am great building rapport with anyone. i only ever Cold Call / Cold Canvass and network to get jobs.

i don't have complaints i guess but i find once i am in a job i soon get demotivated about how managers handle themselves and the people at work they are idiots and annoy the hell out of me as their lack of effort and drive deplete my fuel to work.

[Fox]

Complaint - Bitchy Attitudes.

Had two interviews today. Same job for different companies. First interview went well. Don't know if they'll hire me but they were friendly. I went in the second interview and I don't know what happened. They took one look at me and just had this attitude. Gave me stares like I was a drunk driver who ran over their dog. Questions were very accusatory. I don't understand why someone has to act like a bitch or an asshole.

[Zolo]

I find it pointless to fill out my job history when they ask me to upload my resumé.

Also that Taleo bullshit. I've never been called after filling one of those apps out. Unfortunately, just about every good job I've applied to has used it.