I need examples of BAD stories and BAD songs.

**tms1337** · 03-01-2012, 08:45 PM

It's clear that it's pretty easy to surround yourself with good writing and good tunes.

But my request is simple - I need bad stories and songs so I can see where MY songs and stories compare to them. I don't claim to be a professional, but I think that I've evolved quite a bit with my fiction writing (the music I play is just a hobby, but input is always helpful) and that to see examples of what bad writing is can be just as important as recognizing good writing (and all art in general. All THINGS in general).

So yeah, show me what you've found. I've done google searches, but it just led me to gimmick sites that 'teach' you how to write.

By the way! I don't mean stuff like mainstream music and the Twilight stories. I'm looking for writing by people who are trying to make it, close to a point where I'm at. I need to see what the other side of the competition is like.

Weird request, but yeah, there it is.

**PSYCHO** · 03-01-2012, 09:18 PM

Well it is subjective, but I guess general opinion agrees that
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is terrible.

Honestly this is the closest I can find to what I think it is you're looking for. They aren't mainstream, but popular enough to be noticed.

Hope it helped!

**Case** · 03-02-2012, 08:42 AM

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Yes, this is sort of professional, but the man was known more for his acting. Besides, this is so monumentally horrendous, it shines like a beacon of putridness.

**BlackOp** · 03-02-2012, 01:33 PM

Hootie and The Blowfish -Only wanna be with you

This song actually evokes rage in me..

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**Distance** · 03-02-2012, 01:44 PM

This song was written by a man old enough to be her father. Really, really bad when you consider this.

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**Loneliness** · 03-02-2012, 03:11 PM

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That's awful, i know.
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**mieu** · 03-02-2012, 03:11 PM

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**Zodd** · 03-03-2012, 05:23 AM

	Originally Posted by PSYCHO To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Well it is subjective, but I guess general opinion agrees that To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. is terrible. Honestly this is the closest I can find to what I think it is you're looking for. They aren't mainstream, but popular enough to be noticed. Hope it helped!

I opened this thread to post Brokencyde, haha.

This song, lyrics and video are really bad also. Actually makes me not want to train Jiu-Jitsu again under the people associated in this video. (I'm talking about learning Jiu-Jitsu online).

**vampyroteuthis** · 03-03-2012, 09:35 AM

	Originally Posted by Case To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Yes, this is sort of professional, but the man was known more for his acting. Besides, this is so monumentally horrendous, it shines like a beacon of putridness.

What you talking about? Macarthur Park is genius. "Someone left the cake out in the rain" -- one of the best lyrics ever.

**Merak** · 03-03-2012, 02:37 PM

Look around. There is plenty of terrible writing. If you cannot properly analyze fictional works and tell if they are good or not, you will likely struggle in producing anything great yourself.

This isn't meant as negative criticism, but rather as advice on what you should be doing. Analyze stories. Look at the big picture. Ask yourself what a specific author did or didn't do to either engage your interest, or kill it. Don't bother asking others what "top notch" fiction looks like--there isn't always a correlation between what is good fiction and what the public is told is good fiction.

The goal of creative writing is to evoke emotions within the reader. Find works that have had this effect upon you. This goes for elements such as style, pacing, and overall structure as well.

Edit: I should add that both writing and music is highly subjective. Asking for a definitive answer is bound to fail. I recently stumbled across a metal band called Sybreed. I generally don't care for metal, but this band is absolute genius. However, I'm guessing if you ask most folk, it just sounds like a bunch of yelling and loud noises
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	Originally Posted by PSYCHO To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Well it is subjective, but I guess general opinion agrees that To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. is terrible. Honestly this is the closest I can find to what I think it is you're looking for. They aren't mainstream, but popular enough to be noticed. Hope it helped!

I've never heard that song. It is brilliant! Although probably 'cause I watched it as a parody :D

**Distance** · 03-03-2012, 02:46 PM

Any romance novel where the plotline is focused on romance, instead of subplot. They're fucking annoying.

**deconspire** · 03-03-2012, 02:54 PM

^ or adversely when the subplot is so bad you wish they'd just stuck to the romance.

see Tess of the d'Urbervilles

**Mogura** · 03-03-2012, 11:05 PM

Does it get any worse than SF country music?

**Zodd** · 03-04-2012, 05:38 AM

	Originally Posted by Zodd To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I opened this thread to post Brokencyde, haha. This song, lyrics and video are really bad also. Actually makes me not want to train Jiu-Jitsu again under the people associated in this video. (I'm talking about learning Jiu-Jitsu online).

oh, forgot too post the actual video.

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**Case** · 03-04-2012, 09:30 PM

	Originally Posted by vampyroteuthis To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	What you talking about? Macarthur Park is genius. "Someone left the cake out in the rain" -- one of the best lyrics ever.

Sorry, cannot agree with you there.

People sometimes try to tell me "but it's a metaphor!" Yeah, I get that. It's a shitty metaphor.

Oh well, c'est la vie.

**vampyroteuthis** · 03-04-2012, 09:37 PM

	Originally Posted by Case To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Sorry, cannot agree with you there. People sometimes try to tell me "but it's a metaphor!" Yeah, I get that. It's a shitty metaphor. Oh well, c'est la vie.

It works much better as poetry if you take it completely literally.

**Arcanist** · 03-04-2012, 10:00 PM

Knock yourself out:

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**Selene** · 03-04-2012, 11:23 PM

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comes to mind.

**Distance** · 03-04-2012, 11:39 PM

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I hate these two pieces of drivel!

**EdmontonAspie** · 03-05-2012, 03:50 PM

In that case, I recommend the works of
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, a woman from Northern Ireland (1860-1939) who is considered by many who know about such things to be the worst novelist ever! Worse even than Edward Bulwer-Lytton (famous for "It was a dark and stormy night.")

**Case** · 03-05-2012, 04:37 PM

	Originally Posted by vampyroteuthis To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	It works much better as poetry if you take it completely literally.

LOL never thought of trying that, makes it much more amusing.

Love the avatar, by the way...

03-01-2012, 08:45 PM	#1
tms1337 Member [05%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 232	It's clear that it's pretty easy to surround yourself with good writing and good tunes. But my request is simple - I need bad stories and songs so I can see where MY songs and stories compare to them. I don't claim to be a professional, but I think that I've evolved quite a bit with my fiction writing (the music I play is just a hobby, but input is always helpful) and that to see examples of what bad writing is can be just as important as recognizing good writing (and all art in general. All THINGS in general). So yeah, show me what you've found. I've done google searches, but it just led me to gimmick sites that 'teach' you how to write. By the way! I don't mean stuff like mainstream music and the Twilight stories. I'm looking for writing by people who are trying to make it, close to a point where I'm at. I need to see what the other side of the competition is like. Weird request, but yeah, there it is.
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03-01-2012, 09:18 PM	#2
PSYCHO New Member [01%] MBTI: ENFJ Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 46	Well it is subjective, but I guess general opinion agrees that To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. is terrible. Honestly this is the closest I can find to what I think it is you're looking for. They aren't mainstream, but popular enough to be noticed. Hope it helped!
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Case Member [04%] MBTI: ENFJ Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 196	To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Yes, this is sort of professional, but the man was known more for his acting. Besides, this is so monumentally horrendous, it shines like a beacon of putridness.
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BlackOp Veteran Member [78%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,154	Hootie and The Blowfish -Only wanna be with you This song actually evokes rage in me.. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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