[Ferbguy101]

The only thing that can awaken someone's intelligence is motivation.....and a few zaps to the left hemisphere wouldn't hurk just kidding, but seriously...

[what yeah okay]

ENTP is clearly the smartest type.

[Philanthropist]

	Originally Posted by teraczy To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Perhaps Fi also leads to higher EQ as well and INFP ranked as high as INTJ and INTP in IQ (just not in GPA) in these studies I researched and so thus they are the smartest?

Fe allows for connection with others on an emotional level. Fe dominant (or secondary) types can pick up on the intentions and feelings of others with relative ease. By virtue of being an introverted function, Fi blinds people to the effect they're having on others. Fi dominant or secondary individuals are more keenly aware of their own emotional responses and values than those of others. While it could be argued that introspection should be considered as part of EQ, EQ usually refers to people skills more generally.

[Tentaki]

I just want to say that I take great pride in being an INTP who brings the average IQ of my type down to a more human (in my case, sub-human) level.

[Haumea]

	ENTP is clearly the smartest type.

In my experience there's a lot of truth to that, but when you guys go wrong you can be some of the most underachieving, laziest fucks ever.

[what yeah okay]

	Originally Posted by Haumea To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	In my experience there's a lot of truth to that, but when you guys go wrong you can be some of the most underachieving, laziest fucks ever.

While my post was tongue-in-cheek, there are always the highs and lows of any type.

Genius ENTP: Works on Manhattan Project, solves physics problems in a strip club, wins Nobel Prize, hallucinates in sensory deprivation tank.

Lazy underachiever ENTP that I personally know: Enrolled in prestigious university, but stopped going to class. When he's not stoned out of his mind while watching various science documentaries, he's boning other guys' girlfriends.

[Taste of peat]

If I trust
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, I'd say the type where you find the highest proportion of high IQ's is INTJ, and the lowest one ESFP.

Of course, this is only about average measures. Everyone is singular and being an ESFP doesn't garantee you'll have a low IQ - it only means you'll have a higher chance to have one.

We can't say that a type is smart or stupid as itself. Types are just ideas, abstractions that help us to understand how real people (that is to say individuals) work, not beings.

	When he's not stoned out of his mind while watching various science documentaries, he's boning other guys' girlfriends.

At least he achieves screwing girls. He shoud probably be glad to be extraverted and NT, easy to socialize and able to use his brain. When I can easily use my brain, it took me a long time to get social and I'm still not able to get laid when I want to.

[Tristan]

Intelligence is raw processing power, and not a function of personality. Addendum: to the extent that MBTI can segregate IQ percentiles into the various personalities, this is a flaw in the IQ and MBTI systems.

[reckful]

	Originally Posted by Tristan To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Intelligence is raw processing power, and not a function of personality. Addendum: to the extent that MBTI can segregate IQ percentiles into the various personalities, this is a flaw in the IQ and MBTI systems.

When you declare that it must be "a flaw" in the IQ or MBTI systems, I assume you must somehow be convinced that, as a factual matter, there can't possibly be any correlation between any standard measure of intelligence and any of the four dimensions of human temperament that the MBTI taps into.

What's your basis for that view? It's certainly inconsistent with a lot of data.

[DrCiao]

Originally Posted by Philanthropist To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Fe allows for connection with others on an emotional level. Fe dominant (or secondary) types can pick up on the intentions and feelings of others with relative ease. By virtue of being an introverted function, Fi blinds people to the effect they're having on others. Fi dominant or secondary individuals are more keenly aware of their own emotional responses and values than those of others. While it could be argued that introspection should be considered as part of EQ, EQ usually refers to people skills more generally.

I disagree. Fe dominant folks or secondary types seem easily offended and care more that everyone is in agreement as opposed to picking up the intentions and feelings of others. I think of all types ENTJs and INTJs are best at picking up the intentions and hidden motivations of others. ESTPs are good at picking up body language and telling people what they want to hear and INFJs are good at listening which may appear that thru are in tune with people's feelings.n

[Tristan]

	Originally Posted by reckful To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	When you declare that it must be "a flaw" in the IQ or MBTI systems, I assume you must somehow be convinced that, as a factual matter, there can't possibly be any correlation between any standard measure of intelligence and any of the four dimensions of human temperament that the MBTI taps into. What's your basis for that view? It's certainly inconsistent with a lot of data.

Data which are based on the tests, so the argument against this "declaration" is somewhat circular. I know that there is a preponderance of INTJs, or I's and N's in the broader sense, in the top percentiles of IQ. That data has given me to suspect that an IQ test simply favors the concept-processing patterns of Introverts and iNtuitives. If questions on tests could somehow make more elaborate demands on your senses or (gods forbid) involve best-guesswork, then IQ would be more fair towards the other temperaments. But IQ is not a wisdom test, so we quants can masturbate daily to the notion that our conceptualization patterns are the essence of intelligence.

[teraczy]

	Originally Posted by DrCiao To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I think of all types ENTJs and INTJs are best at picking up the intentions and hidden motivations of others. ESTPs are good at picking up body language and telling people what they want to hear and INFJs are good at listening which may appear that thru are in tune with people's feelings.n

I don't really think you can get away with saying xntjs are the best but I do believe we pick up on a number of things, just tend to not react to them. About the estps and infjs, I have observed the same.

	Originally Posted by Tristan To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	so we quants can masturbate daily to the notion that our conceptualization patterns are the essence of intelligence.

sounds like a plan!

[sircockburn]

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Precisely what I was saying. The studies I have read did find that introverts were tested having highest IQ and GPA on average, and that this was the greatest weight as far as the types being divided between lower and higher IQs. Though, it was also found that iNtuition was also a marker. Which to me is logical, because the ability to intuit information seems to be a more complicated and sophisticated means to discovery, and leaning more towards a gift simply by definition, but of course I am biased To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. and am aware I'm throwing myself to the sensor wolves with that one... By the way, my brother is an ISTJ and he is definitely more intelligent and capable in certain areas than I am.

I never understood how GPA correlated so strongly with IQ. A good chunk of the grade from each class depends on diligence rather than intelligence - a chunk "good" enough to mean the difference between an A and a C, if not an F.

So many classes, especially in high school, are classes dependent on memorization rather than problem-solving, creativity, logical reasoning, or spatial aptitude. Which means that even the tests or assignments theoretically graded on IQ-worthy variables, would rely in some part on diligence rather than innate intelligence, lessening the percentage of the course that would reflect some component of IQ.

I suppose you could argue that someone intelligent would know to be diligent. But the operative word here is know, not do (or have, for you grammar Nazi INTPs on board...).
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[Jesseh]

ENFP's IMO, I know too many. They're too emotional in many cases and it causes them to be biased.

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I thought I posted, whoops. Ok I have 2 ENFJ close family members, and every E I know is prone to ditziness even if they are intelligent. The most intelligent people I know, are ALL INTJs or INTx. It's like I'm drawn to these people without realizing it.