[Femmebott]

I have grown weary of women who consider themselves superior to other women because of stereotypically male personality traits. They think being one of the guys puts them above other women. And femininity is again associated with weakness and stupidity. They don't see how counterintuitive this is.

[LadySpock]

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I'm pondering the dynamic here that it would be unlikely to see a thread about men disliking other men. This leads us to the differences between the male and female brain. One conclusion that one can draw from this is that women who purport to dislike other women in general are uncomfortable with their roles and places as females. They may see femaleness or gender roles as forced on them. Being expected to act a certain way or "be" a certain way may violate some personal boundary. They also appear to show contempt for females who embrace femaleness because they regard being female as a relegation to inferiority. It's an interesting phenomenon but it probably stops short of self hatred.

Interesting.

This was actually described in terms of racial self hatred too.

A person has accepted that being Black is being inferior; therefore, hatred of stereotypically Black people ensues. Great pains are taken to make sure anyone who matters knows they are not like "The Regular Blacks."

[JustMel]

	Originally Posted by Femmebott To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I have grown weary of women who consider themselves superior to other women because of stereotypically male personality traits. They think being one of the guys puts them above other women. And femininity is again associated with weakness and stupidity. They don't see how counterintuitive this is.

None of the women I know that are "one of the guys" chooses that role because they feel as if they are being placed, by those men, above other women, merely that like anyone else they choose to hang out with people who they have common interests with.

Femininity is not associated with weakness and stupidity, imo, however stereotypical actions will net you stereotypical judgments. I have female friends that are feminine and embrace the "advantages of being a female" as they put it of being able to dress up and play with make up/hair/nails and shoes etc because they actually enjoy those things and don't do them to conform to the expectations of others. Which is really no different than a female choosing to have more male friends because men are typically more interested in the same subjects they are.

There are both male and female douche bags.

[Cooper]

	Originally Posted by LadySpock To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Interesting. This was actually described in terms of racial self hatred too. A person has accepted that being Black is being inferior; therefore, hatred of stereotypically Black people ensues. Great pains are taken to make sure anyone who matters knows they are not like "The Regular Blacks."

Source?

[JustMel]

	Originally Posted by LadySpock To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Meh. I had no idea nor any care for you genital status. My responses are the same to any of the moronic statement made by penises and vagina's alike.

Nice try at baiting me but I can attack the idea, in the open, without attacking the person unlike those who attack the person via rep comment.
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It's not the thread I dislike, it's the failure to actually defend the idea you put forth. Your arguments thus far have consisted of "You don't agree so you must hate yourself" which is bad armchair psychology at best.

I participate where I decide to on any given day based solely on my mood and the way a particular idea is presented. There are times when participating in a train wreck waiting to happen is more entertaining than simply watching from the sidelines. Especially if one knows how to stay on track when the switches are thrown.

[Shoshana]

I sort of had this problem and brought it up to a therapist or someone in the psychology field because I was curious as to why I found it so much easier to get along with men. What I was told is that most heterosexuals, men and women, often do feel a little bit more at ease with the opposite sex because there's less competition.

It's not really considered a problem or aberration unless it's so severe in someone that they simply can't be friends with their own gender.

The reason I noticed it is because I'm hypersensitive and hyperobservant of nuances in others' body language and tone--and women can have this bitchy irritable tone with each other. However, I've worked on my own issues enough not to let this become a hindrance to friendship with other women.

I've run into enough men who express same sentiment about other men--so I don't think this is exclusively a female thing...

[catzmeow]

I don't like or dislike other people on the basis of gender. I've spent years working in a male-dominated field, so during those years, most of my good friends were male. In college, aside from my best friend (who is male--and is still my best friend, after 28 years), I had mostly female friends (but I was in a sorority, so that gave me a lot of opportunities for close female friendships. Since I moved 1500 miles away from home after college, most of my good friends have been neighbors and work associates. It is harder to maintain a longterm friendship with my female college friends than it has been with my good friend Brian, but I think that's because women expect friends to do more maintenance work and have more regular contact, and I really don't have time to talk to anyone every single week. My friend Brian and I can go several months without speaking, and then pick up right where we left off and talk about very serious things in our lives when needed. I prefer low maintenance friends (and tend to be that person, myself).

At this point in my life, I still work in a male-dominated field, but I work in a corporate environment with a lot of other women. I am not close to all of them, but I do have several close female friends at work with whom I regularly socialize and go to "girls lunches."

I'm not sure that one particular gender is more dramatic. The cops I spent my days with between 1994-99 spent just as much time gossiping and having conflicts with each other as the women I'm now friends with do.

I've never really understood the need to generalize about people's personalities on the basis of gender. People are people. I like some of them, others...not so much.

I tend to have the most in common with non-traditional, idea-oriented creative types; less in common with traditionalists who try to tell me how to live.

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	Originally Posted by JustMel To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	None of the women I know that are "one of the guys" chooses that role because they feel as if they are being placed, by those men, above other women, merely that like anyone else they choose to hang out with people who they have common interests with.

A lot of the women I work with spend a lot of time dissecting the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and similar subjects. I'd rather talk about sports, politics, or my latest home improvement project. I do love cooking and books, though, and have a lot in common with people who enjoy either of those subjects.

[IntoTheWild]

Just competition. Simply people competing for a limited amount of commodities (hot men and women). Same deal with men. Put one good looking girl in the room and watch throats get cut. All of a sudden, everything you say is stupid: "Dude, shut up." "Haha, whatever." Everyone and everything becomes a stepping stone to reach the girl on the pedestal.

[Ferbguy101]

If women wouldn't be so passive agressive or wouldn't hold unessesary grudges against "the unpopular girl" or "popluar girl" or "the guy girl" or the "girly girl" then women would get along alot more but since we know with today's protrait of women that's never going to happen so by enlarge mankind have brought this upon themselves/ The core to mast feminine conflicts is hypersensitivty. I don't get along with girls but that's because I choose not to but there are alot of women who don't admit to anyone that that's sometimes a concious choice. I don't want to be around the standard female because of her passive persona and ignorance but that's ok there are alot of flavors of women, someday we'll all find the right one and if you son't then you'll find a buddy that's guy like me and if that doesn't work then well, us, then maybe yourself. Isolation is somewhat voulentary because there are usually concious ways to prevent it

[Philanthropist]

	Originally Posted by JTG To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	When women say "i don't get along with other women" i usually take it to mean "women who conform to gender standards by being vapid and undependable annoy the piss out of me."

There are negative, vapid traits which as stereotypically associated with both men and women. You could just as easily say "I don't get along with men because they prattle on about sports, have a small vocabulary, an inability to appreciate aesthetic beauty and can't maintain a decent conversation for more than two minutes". Pretty much like
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The REAL question here is, why do these women focus on negative stereotypes about their own gender and ignore negative stereotypes about men?


I think the answer lies with sexual orientation. People who are completely heterosexual (not a large percentage of people really) tend to give emotional preference to members of the opposite gender. This usually occurs in platonic situations as well as romantic/sexual situations.