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Thoughts on this directed, nested approach to consciousness? It's interesting that objects within itself is a concept strung on a similarity string throughout all aspects of consciousness, yet supposedly differ in how they achieve it. There is also a categorical issue, namely, distinguishing between mental and natural phenomena. |
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I feel like modern neurology makes a better attempt to identify the mechanisms of "mental phenomenon". There are actually specific, identifiable signals in your brain, nerves, and skin which signal intention before you are aware of it.
For instance, the Japanese built a robotic exoskeleton that responded to nervous activity in the skin over the muscles which would move. Ironically, the exoskeleton moved before its wearer did (only by fractions of a second) |
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Right, and there are assertions that Intentionality isn't able to fit into the natural sciences (in terms of factual cohesion), and the origins of that particular vein of philosophy are fairly old (which doesn't necessarily mean anything).
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I suspect if one drills down into this philosophy it will be found to be built off of materialism.
God/Dog, eh ? I'd say that boat sunk right out of dry dock.
Last edited by RBM; 01-13-2012 at 04:49 PM.
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Haha! That's so INTP. So meta..
Actually, isn't that the sentiment? That consciousness is an inherent meta-ness (separation) that echoes infinitely far from an object? It's like how there must be an inherent physical/mental separation in order to have a subsequent connection (ie people - it takes two). One must not be a specific object in order to perceive that object. So the capacity to perceive distance is the means to perceiving connection (and perception/conception of action and interaction). So the further one can remove themselves via their (passive) intentionality, the higher their level of consciousness! HA! If there even are levels... (it's probably more like colors of consciousness) That's why some people think they have raised/altered their consciousness - they're experiencing everything in an alternate (if not further removed) state of intentionality for objects to serve their personal functionality (and that's why they can/do behave differently). Intentionality (passive) is the mechanism for altered consciousness. Like Joan of Arc. I'm sure there are those with great skill to actively alter their consciousness (by this definition of consciousness) through such understanding as described in the OP. |
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Sure, the separation is the illusion that is so ubiquitous among the species due to the system configuration. The system is built to appear that way (see The Illusion of Time, BBC or Beau Lotto on how we see illusions). Our physical sensory systems constrain analysis by evolved design.
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