Spot the Criminal, my own homemade test

**MagicSquid** · 11-20-2011, 09:35 PM

Inspired partly by this thread:

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...where people are claiming to have very good innate people-diagnostic abilities, I've decided to put everyone to the test. I've also heard other people make similar claims, that they "just had a bad feeling about someone" and the like, and I've come to wonder, if it really came down to it, could you spot someone who might potentially do you harm after just a brief meeting?

Here are pictures of 40 individuals:

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Can you spot the one who would most likely do you harm?

Here's a completely fictional scenario, it it helps: You're at a high school/college party, and a friend of a friend, whom you haven't met, needs a ride home. Which person do you really not want to give a ride home to?

Please post the # of who you think it might be, or post a few numbers if you like.

On the off chance you actually recognize the person, please don't blurt it out. I'll share the correct answer in a few days. I should also mention that I only know the criminal history of the 1 person. It's possible but unlikely that any others except that 1 person would actually do you harm. I think you can get the point of the exercise: spot the one most likely to do you harm on the list.

**Erebos** · 11-20-2011, 10:56 PM

None. I don't trust them, I don't give them a ride. + in party I could see how they are acting, speak with them etc. It would help me more than seeing their photos.

**Mogura** · 11-20-2011, 10:58 PM

If I had to choose one, #17: Creepy serial killer vibe.

#8 Runner up. Looks impressionable. You could probably entice her to do some fucked-up shit. She wouldn't do it on her own/alone, though.

#20, 21: Neither of these chicks are getting in my car. Probably harmless, but hello, skeletons!

#1 would definitely stalk me. (Wait, I think #1 did stalk me.)

#33 looks manipulative. His career options are politics or some really fucked up shit. INFJ?

I see a few potential wife beaters (#18, 35)/future white collar criminals (#7, 15) in there as well.

LOL @38. Looks like an INFP with an identity crisis going on. He'll drink any Kool-aid you hand to him, no questions asked.

LOL. I suppose my responses say more about me than the criminal(s)...

**BuShinJu** · 11-22-2011, 03:33 AM

19.

Ruuuuuunnnnnnnnn!

**PlungingHornets** · 11-22-2011, 06:40 AM

1. #6
2. #7
3. #15
4. #24
5. #28
6. #33
7. #39

You made this really hard by not having any black males!

Disclaimer: That was my attempt at humor. Please don't initiate a PC righteous rage against me. Thank you.

**mormeguil** · 11-22-2011, 07:08 AM

I do have an easy test for everyone if you want to lower the chances of running into a psychopath. Not a perfect thing but should keep you safe from the most dangerous crimes.

Try to remember when you follow a tennis ball whitout moving your head. Or look at a car passing by just moving your eyes. You will slowly move then by fixating on a single point. Most human can not do this whitout an object to follow. Psychopath are usually able to do it whitout anything.

Ask whoever you are taking up to try it and you will know ...

**Vulture** · 11-22-2011, 07:54 AM

25.

by highschool pictures, it may be harder to tell than a picture of a person "after" they began "harming" people? that is assuming that the person "grew up" into a sociopath after highschool.

i'm curious in noting that i disregarded all female faces as potential candidates when scanning.

**fokalina** · 11-22-2011, 08:31 AM

I'm terrible at this sort of thing, I believe.

These are the people I might be uncomfortable with in more than a "you're dumb" kind of way (because there appear to be some of those too
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1, maybe 11, 24, 26, 29, maybe 39. 8 and 15 are kind of creepy too.

And who knows--it may be completely different if I were meeting them in real life.

**ProfessorMurder** · 11-22-2011, 09:38 AM

	Originally Posted by mormeguil To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Try to remember when you follow a tennis ball whitout moving your head. Or look at a car passing by just moving your eyes. You will slowly move then by fixating on a single point. Most human can not do this whitout an object to follow. Psychopath are usually able to do it whitout anything. Ask whoever you are taking up to try it and you will know ...

Wait, what are you trying to describe here?

**BeeLol** · 11-22-2011, 11:24 AM

It's hard to tell from photos, although it may be just as hard for most of us to tell in real life. Anyway, here goes for my guesses (5 men and 1 woman):

6, 10, 22, 23, 33, 35

**mormeguil** · 11-22-2011, 01:02 PM


	Wait, what are you trying to describe here?

Trying to explain a method to easily discern sociopathic tendancy in people. It's based on the fact that people with a high level of sociopathic tendancy can perform smooth pursuit eye movement whitout any outside stimuli whitout practice.

For a good definition of smooth pursuit the following link seems quite nice.

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**nihontoman** · 11-22-2011, 02:23 PM

number 40 and number 34... there are some other creepy people, but I guess these are the ones with actual balls to kill someone...

**Reverb** · 11-22-2011, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Mogura
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#8 Runner up. Looks impressionable. You could probably entice her to do some fucked-up shit. She wouldn't do it on her own/alone, though.

#20, 21: Neither of these chicks are getting in my car. Probably harmless, but hello, skeletons!

#1 would definitely stalk me. (Wait, I think #1 did stalk me.)

#33 looks manipulative. His career options are politics or some really fucked up shit. INFJ?

I see a few potential wife beaters (#18, 35)/future white collar criminals (#7, 15) in there as well.

LOL @38. Looks like an INFP with an identity crisis going on. He'll drink any Kool-aid you hand to him, no questions asked.

LOL. I suppose my responses say more about me than the criminal(s)...

LMFAO

I don't think a picture is very accurate in picking up on behaviors, but I will just throw out a number, number 19.

**JoeyBasic** · 11-22-2011, 04:36 PM

Okay..I couldn't see one of the pages... But I would go with #1, #6, #10, and #19.

**MagicSquid** · 11-22-2011, 05:19 PM

	Originally Posted by JoeyBasic To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Okay..I couldn't see one of the pages... But I would go with #1, #6, #10, and #19.

Odd, I just checked them, and they all opened fine for me.

---------- Post added 11-22-2011 at 05:25 PM ----------

[HIDE="Answer"] The answer is #38. Say hello to Randall Woodfield's high school senior picture. He's better known as the I-5 killer or I-5 bandit. He's suspected of murdering 13 people and currently serving a very lengthy prison sentence.
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While I can't confirm for sure that everyone else in those pictures are mild mannered citizens since I don't know their criminal histories, if there was anything at all to home in on, most certainly Randall Woodfield would have triggered it, right? Can't judge a book by it's cover, and in fact, it appears from people's responses that the cleanest books might actually be the ones to suspect, since no one seemed to suspect him but Mog, and then only for the wrong reasons.[/HIDE]

**Erebos** · 11-22-2011, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by mormeguil
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Trying to explain a method to easily discern sociopathic tendancy in people. It's based on the fact that people with a high level of sociopathic tendancy can perform smooth pursuit eye movement whitout any outside stimuli whitout practice.

For a good definition of smooth pursuit the following link seems quite nice.

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Which research show they can do that WITHOUT practice? Never heard that was scientifically proven, heard actually evidence suggest they DO practice without even realizing that themselves.

**BeeLol** · 11-22-2011, 08:32 PM

	Originally Posted by nihontoman To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	number 40 and number 34... there are some other creepy people, but I guess these are the ones with actual balls to kill someone...

There's something about #40 that reminds me of Daniel Craig.

**BuShinJu** · 11-22-2011, 09:52 PM

Would never have picked that.

But what about the other thread that had 16 out of 40 of these photos are criminal. I picked 12 and others seemed to be consistantly picking larger numbers as well. I guess that is nearly a 1 in 2 chance of picking someone, whereas this is a 1 in 40. (sorry if my statistics is off)

**envirodude** · 11-23-2011, 12:45 AM

I had picked 19, like many of you. The only thing I noticed about the villain was the awkward smile. Clearly he really wants to fit in. Presumably he failed.

BSJ - I picked 12/16 as well. I think this is pretty good, and unlikely to occur by chance.

Choosing from a group of two objects (criminals, non-criminals) follows the
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. 12 of the 16 criminals (and so 4 of the 16 non-criminals) would lead to the following probability [(nCk) is the binomial coefficient, n choose k]:

(16C12) (16C4)
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(32C16)

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... which calculates as 0.005 or less than 1% chance. (Really we're asking, what is the chance of getting at least 12 by chance, so you need to add in the discrete probability of getting 13, 14, 15, and 16 right as well, but even 13 is an order of magnitude smaller than 12...)

**Zombicide** · 11-23-2011, 01:11 AM

Despite his eyes seemingly not being quite large enough, aside from # 10 who I'm not certain about, they all look like criminal scum to me, to the gas chamber with the lot of them. Burn in hell, vermin!

**mormeguil** · 11-23-2011, 08:48 AM


	Which research show they can do that WITHOUT practice? Never heard that was scientifically proven, heard actually evidence suggest they DO practice without even realizing that themselves.

To be entirely honest I have not seen a research proving they do it whitout practice. In any case the end result in the same. If someone can do it, there is a higher change that they have psychopathic tendancy.

Not something to judge the whole person from, but if you need to make a quick decision about a stranger it's a method that at least as some objective base.

**Mogura** · 11-23-2011, 06:01 PM

	Originally Posted by PlungingHornets To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	You made this really hard by not having any black males!

As a Caucasian with ancestoral roots in Africa going back 200,000 years I find this highly offensive...

**Sk8ordude** · 11-23-2011, 09:17 PM

I'm usually strapped but I have general dislike of people I don't know that ask me for rides, so not applicable.

10 and 35 are still suspect, I wouldn't have guessed 38 based on a picture.

**TrickyD** · 11-25-2011, 05:59 AM

Anyone could be a psycho/sociopath so appearance isn't really an indicator IMO.

Still my choices would be 10,19,24,33,39,40

Just found the answer, so kind of proves my point. I wouldn't have known.

**magnum** · 11-25-2011, 06:22 AM

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	Can you spot the one who would most likely do you harm?

Define harm.
The content, methods and outcome meas totally different to SF, ST, NF, NT

nr 1 - lots of intrigue, under naive person´s mask. Uses "statistics" to manipulate information
nr 3 - thinks he can do everything, because he´s got the looks. Uses his network.
nr 4 - influences people under his masterful humor skills
nr 6 - will fuck up things under alcohol influence
nr 7 - perfect KGB spy/agent. People do share a lot of stuff to "grey people"
nr 8 - "Oopsy-Daisy"
nr 13 - usually a brick when holds a administrator´s position
nr 18 - goes crazy when works as a group member. Aggression. Full-contact guy.
nr 24 - harmful both as a individual and as a group member. Full-contact guy.
nr 25 - likes to create mad ideas and watch others doing it, usually a influencer.
nr 26 - brick
nr 28 - can be talked over to do stupid things
nr 33 - pacifist. Imagine him as a skinhead
nr 34 - full-contact guy, acts only inside a group
nr 38 - politics...
nr 39 - high risk of being a member of pacifist group; influenced by others; needs motivation do direct his frustration; shitty nerves give up easily and he leaves a mess behind
nr 40 - the brains inside the group. Does not do stuff.

11-20-2011, 10:58 PM	#3
Mogura Core Member [175%] MBTI: INFJ Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 7,031	If I had to choose one, #17: Creepy serial killer vibe. #8 Runner up. Looks impressionable. You could probably entice her to do some fucked-up shit. She wouldn't do it on her own/alone, though. #20, 21: Neither of these chicks are getting in my car. Probably harmless, but hello, skeletons! #1 would definitely stalk me. (Wait, I think #1 did stalk me.) #33 looks manipulative. His career options are politics or some really fucked up shit. INFJ? I see a few potential wife beaters (#18, 35)/future white collar criminals (#7, 15) in there as well. LOL @38. Looks like an INFP with an identity crisis going on. He'll drink any Kool-aid you hand to him, no questions asked. LOL. I suppose my responses say more about me than the criminal(s)... Last edited by Mogura; 11-21-2011 at 12:00 AM.
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11-22-2011, 06:40 AM	#5
PlungingHornets Member [13%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 536	1. #6 2. #7 3. #15 4. #24 5. #28 6. #33 7. #39 You made this really hard by not having any black males! Disclaimer: That was my attempt at humor. Please don't initiate a PC righteous rage against me. Thank you.
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11-22-2011, 02:23 PM	#12
nihontoman New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 70	number 40 and number 34... there are some other creepy people, but I guess these are the ones with actual balls to kill someone...
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11-22-2011, 04:36 PM	#14
JoeyBasic New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 29	Okay..I couldn't see one of the pages... But I would go with #1, #6, #10, and #19.
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11-23-2011, 12:45 AM	#19
envirodude Core Member [111%] MBTI: INTx Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 4,452	I had picked 19, like many of you. The only thing I noticed about the villain was the awkward smile. Clearly he really wants to fit in. Presumably he failed. BSJ - I picked 12/16 as well. I think this is pretty good, and unlikely to occur by chance. Choosing from a group of two objects (criminals, non-criminals) follows the To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. . 12 of the 16 criminals (and so 4 of the 16 non-criminals) would lead to the following probability [(nCk) is the binomial coefficient, n choose k]: (16C12) (16C4) --------------- (32C16) To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ... which calculates as 0.005 or less than 1% chance. (Really we're asking, what is the chance of getting at least 12 by chance, so you need to add in the discrete probability of getting 13, 14, 15, and 16 right as well, but even 13 is an order of magnitude smaller than 12...) Last edited by envirodude; 11-23-2011 at 07:17 AM.
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11-20-2011, 09:35 PM	#1
MagicSquid New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 45	Inspired partly by this thread: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ...where people are claiming to have very good innate people-diagnostic abilities, I've decided to put everyone to the test. I've also heard other people make similar claims, that they "just had a bad feeling about someone" and the like, and I've come to wonder, if it really came down to it, could you spot someone who might potentially do you harm after just a brief meeting? Here are pictures of 40 individuals: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Can you spot the one who would most likely do you harm? Here's a completely fictional scenario, it it helps: You're at a high school/college party, and a friend of a friend, whom you haven't met, needs a ride home. Which person do you really not want to give a ride home to? Please post the # of who you think it might be, or post a few numbers if you like. On the off chance you actually recognize the person, please don't blurt it out. I'll share the correct answer in a few days. I should also mention that I only know the criminal history of the 1 person. It's possible but unlikely that any others except that 1 person would actually do you harm. I think you can get the point of the exercise: spot the one most likely to do you harm on the list.
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11-20-2011, 10:56 PM	#2
Erebos Member [02%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 91	None. I don't trust them, I don't give them a ride. + in party I could see how they are acting, speak with them etc. It would help me more than seeing their photos.
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11-22-2011, 03:33 AM	#4
BuShinJu Member [43%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,734	19. Ruuuuuunnnnnnnnn!
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11-22-2011, 07:08 AM	#6
mormeguil Member [32%] MBTI: Intj Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,294	I do have an easy test for everyone if you want to lower the chances of running into a psychopath. Not a perfect thing but should keep you safe from the most dangerous crimes. Try to remember when you follow a tennis ball whitout moving your head. Or look at a car passing by just moving your eyes. You will slowly move then by fixating on a single point. Most human can not do this whitout an object to follow. Psychopath are usually able to do it whitout anything. Ask whoever you are taking up to try it and you will know ...
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11-22-2011, 07:54 AM	#7
Vulture Member [49%] MBTI: intj Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,966	25. by highschool pictures, it may be harder to tell than a picture of a person "after" they began "harming" people? that is assuming that the person "grew up" into a sociopath after highschool. i'm curious in noting that i disregarded all female faces as potential candidates when scanning.
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11-22-2011, 08:31 AM	#8
fokalina Member [34%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,363	I'm terrible at this sort of thing, I believe. These are the people I might be uncomfortable with in more than a "you're dumb" kind of way (because there appear to be some of those too To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ): 1, maybe 11, 24, 26, 29, maybe 39. 8 and 15 are kind of creepy too. And who knows--it may be completely different if I were meeting them in real life.
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11-22-2011, 11:24 AM	#10
BeeLol Member [03%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 149	It's hard to tell from photos, although it may be just as hard for most of us to tell in real life. Anyway, here goes for my guesses (5 men and 1 woman): 6, 10, 22, 23, 33, 35
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11-22-2011, 09:52 PM	#18
BuShinJu Member [43%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,734	Would never have picked that. But what about the other thread that had 16 out of 40 of these photos are criminal. I picked 12 and others seemed to be consistantly picking larger numbers as well. I guess that is nearly a 1 in 2 chance of picking someone, whereas this is a 1 in 40. (sorry if my statistics is off)
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11-23-2011, 01:11 AM	#20
Zombicide Core Member [105%] MBTI: INTj Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,223	Despite his eyes seemingly not being quite large enough, aside from # 10 who I'm not certain about, they all look like criminal scum to me, to the gas chamber with the lot of them. Burn in hell, vermin!
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11-23-2011, 09:17 PM	#23
Sk8ordude Veteran Member [59%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,392	I'm usually strapped but I have general dislike of people I don't know that ask me for rides, so not applicable. 10 and 35 are still suspect, I wouldn't have guessed 38 based on a picture.
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11-25-2011, 05:59 AM	#24
TrickyD Member [03%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 128	Anyone could be a psycho/sociopath so appearance isn't really an indicator IMO. Still my choices would be 10,19,24,33,39,40 Just found the answer, so kind of proves my point. I wouldn't have known. Last edited by TrickyD; 11-25-2011 at 06:41 AM.
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