[Hawkx]

Well I got that feeling back again...
This time for not achieving a high grade in my Biology class. My inability to earn a high grade will shine through my rejection letters when I try to get into a medical school. Basically my future is ruined, the most horrible scenario that an INTJ can think of. Plus I'm not going to settle going to a lower ranking medical school, wanted to be an excellent doctor... now I have to worry about saving myself, ironic.



I cant cope with reality anymore nor can I accept reality anymore.
I'm just too tired for all of it...

I would have liked the option to have some time off to be lonely, but unfortunately i have college to attend to.

The rate of suicide is only 60% percent successful, I wouldn't surely like to end up being brain damaged...

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Although people with depression have abnormal functioning of the brain...

[ManWithNoName]

You have tunnel vision right now because of your depression. Your problems aren't as dire as you think. Take a step back and just focus on the present. Don't worry about things beyond your control. Just focus on the immediate, attending classes, going about your day.

[True Rune]

Are you in high school?

[ConscienceX]

Dude. First take a deep breath and shake off this very temporary feeling. All this over a grade in Biology Class... You are obviously smart as all hell. Getting into the medical school you want will be easy. There are a few easy ways to get your GPA back up, a few ways in your application to make up for a less-than-perfect GPA, and also, most importantly, if this is your biggest problem in life than you have it made, my friend - because it only gets harder, especially in med school and especially in life. Seek out extra credit, find and take a specialized, standardized test and submit it to your choice of schools, or get your ass into an cheap, advanced class or two at your local community college and kick ass. Find a few-month internship at Pharmaceutical company, or volunteer at the free clinic. That will look infinitely better than any grade on a ridiculous biology test. Or join the National Guard for two years, come back and med schools will be begging you to attend. I can go on and on with solutions if you'd like. I'm here to help.

Just Calm down and keep it together. You are better than drama and idiocy. Use your skill to figure out how to fix this. This too shall pass and you'll be OK.

[mllebrie]

Hawkx, I've been there. You can't be perfect. You can't always get the best grades, not unless you're superhuman. If you didn't need to eat/sleep/shower/go to other classes, etc., you'd be all set. What year are you in school? There may be plenty of time to bring your gpa up. And if you're in your later years, then you've likely gotten a bad grade in a higher level class, that's obviously more difficult.

I've bombed a class. It was bio, actually. I survived. And I think I came out the better for it. Although, I certainly didn't think that would be the case at the time.

[Hawkx]

Originally Posted by ConscienceX To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Dude. First take a deep breath and shake off this very temporary feeling. All this over a grade in Biology Class... You are obviously smart as all hell. Getting into the medical school you want will be easy. There are a few easy ways to get your GPA back up, a few ways in your application to make up for a less-than-perfect GPA, and also, most importantly, if this is your biggest problem in life than you have it made, my friend - because it only gets harder, especially in med school and especially in life. Seek out extra credit, find and take a specialized, standardized test and submit it to your choice of schools, or get your ass into an cheap, advanced class or two at your local community college and kick ass. Find a few-month internship at Pharmaceutical company, or volunteer at the free clinic. That will look infinitely better than any grade on a ridiculous biology test. Or join the National Guard for two years, come back and med schools will be begging you to attend. I can go on and on with solutions if you'd like. I'm here to help. Just Calm down and keep it together. You are better than drama and idiocy. Use your skill to figure out how to fix this. This too shall pass and you'll be OK.

Yes you are right about better than drama and idiocy part, its just that I never earned low grades in any class. When I was in AP Biology I was top of my class, and now I go to a university(New York University) that has highly competitive classes. I'm just very upset about receiving a bad grade in my first semester.

Plus it might be that since I have high preference for every letter in INTJ that when I go out of my letter I become too tired and fall into such a state. Our university is stubbornly insistent on making us social, and a detail probe.

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	Originally Posted by mllebrie To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Hawkx, I've been there. You can't be perfect. You can't always get the best grades, not unless you're superhuman. If you didn't need to eat/sleep/shower/go to other classes, etc., you'd be all set.

I should engineer a super fluid that decreases the amount of time we need to sleep at least that would give me a couple of hours. Although I have to argue that my commuting is tenacious and idiotic, I spend a total of 5 hours on the road each day because of my parents' inability to think properly.

	Originally Posted by mllebrie To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	What year are you in school? There may be plenty of time to bring your gpa up. And if you're in your later years, then you've likely gotten a bad grade in a higher level class, that's obviously more difficult.

I'm in my first semester, my professor told the class that if any one of us gets a lower mark than a B in Biology then we would end up being a secondary choice for medical schools.

[ConscienceX]

Hey, it's your first semester. Plenty of time to get better. What was the reason you didn't perform as well on that particular test? It's got to be something upon which you can improve... absorb it as a learning experience, and don't let it happen again.

Also though, make sure you take time to relax. Meditate or something. Always make time to do whatever you do for fun and to unwind (or find something if you don't have one or two ways to vent)... it definitely will benefit your work in the long run.

And don't conform to whatever social or institutional control your university shoves down your throat. Pick those things that you can use to your advantage and use them at the right times, but most of it is complete BS. Have faith in yourself. Keep your head up with optimism or down with focus. Either way, you have the right goals and right drive to achieve them...make sure you maintain the right attitude and you will persevere.

[mllebrie]

Oh goodness! It's your first semester! Honestly, I didn't even worry about my grades during my first semester, I just focused on getting adjusted to my surroundings and figuring the whole college thing out. I know of at least one college that doesn't even calculate the grades from the first semester of freshman year into a student's gpa.

What you need to do is not dwell on it. Pick yourself up, learn from it, and keep going. Don't drive yourself crazy with "I should have" and "if only". They're not productive. I would know. I really did drive myself nuts with that sort of thing, and instead of containing itself to one class, it ruined a whole year and became a really big problem.

Talk to the professor...? It's probably a huge class, so maybe even a lab instructor would do. If it comes to giving you an extra point here or there, having them know that you really care about the class and are trying hard might make the difference.

Sorry to hear about your commute. I had a two hour commute in high school, it sucked. I'm sure you're already looking into moving closer to campus, so I won't even go into that one.

Good luck!

[Hawkx]

	Originally Posted by ConscienceX To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Hey, it's your first semester. Plenty of time to get better. What was the reason you didn't perform as well on that particular test?

The test is made up of all short answers, and you basically have to answer in every little detail you know.

For example this was a question, whats the structural organization of proteins, the bond that makes it up, draw the diagram of the simple structure draw the bond, explain how you can identify this molecule, identify two bonds that make the structure of this protein, give the 4 facts about enzymes, give 3 ways you can stop them from functioning properly.

We had 14 short answers like this with 70 minutes to finish. If you misplace a single atom in any diagram, don't include the correct name or spelling you get points deducted for each one.

Forget about that I still have the composition of a red blood cell still in my mind .9 percent NaCl, 99.1 percent water, it also includes other solutes but professor told us that its very little that you can ignore it. He asked a question on the test where I had to include this information, it was a small important piece of information to answer the question.

[ConscienceX]

Attitude, my friend. If the test was too difficult, it was because you were not properly prepared...and it is obvious you are incredibly capable. Trust me, you can overcome - do not sell yourself short.

Deeply observe the format of that test, and its purpose, which in part is to shake your confidence and to significantly test your skills in preparation and understanding (not just memorization of definitions and diagrams).

It will not get easier. After you complete medical school, you may deal with actual human life or death situations. Consider your experiences to be the first steps in this conceptual outcome. It is purposeful and hopefully your professor (and those who formulate the curriculum and methodologies) is presenting students with increasingly stressful situations in which you must adapt and be quick with manipulating important theories and applying near flawless actions.

You will be better for it. You don't have to be cheerful (F*@% that), but you do have to maintain a quiet optimism in the face of seemingly insurmountable obstacles. All the best to you.

[Hawkx]

	Originally Posted by ConscienceX To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Deeply observe the format of that test, and its purpose, which in part is to shake your confidence and to significantly test your skills in preparation and understanding (not just memorization of definitions and diagrams).

I understand the concept but the details are something that i need to work on. Well either way I need to start becoming obsessive about details. Its very hard for me to do this after all thats why I am intuitive, see the general picture and concept.

[True Rune]

You might just have a bitter teacher who thinks too highly of themselves. You can always re-take the class too, iirc.

[Hawkx]

	Originally Posted by True Rune To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	You might just have a bitter teacher who thinks too highly of themselves. You can always re-take the class too, iirc.

I strongly believe he is an ESTJ, he believes that facts help you construct a concept.

While N's don't need facts to construct a concept.

[True Rune]

They're necessary though, they tend to line up with or help you adjust the concepts. I agree that N tend to solve the puzzle before they have all the pieces while S fill them out 1 by 1.

[Hawkx]

	Originally Posted by True Rune To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	They're necessary though, they tend to line up with or help you adjust the concepts. I agree that N tend to solve the puzzle before they have all the pieces while S fill them out 1 by 1.

Well once i go into stress mode I tend to be obsessive about details, "When under a great deal of stress, the INTJ may become obsessed with mindless repetitive, Sensate activities, such as over-drinking. They may also tend to become absorbed with minutia and details that they would not normally consider important to their overall goal." and I've experienced it previously.

The problem however is that I am competent in many areas that I still cant decide whether I should go into physics or become a doctor, and hence my major in Biomed and minor in Physics.

[Polymath20]

	The problem however is that I am competent in many areas that I still cant decide whether I should go into physics or become a doctor, and hence my major in Biomed and minor in Physics.

It sounds like you are simply over-extending yourself and you have unrealistic expectations about what you are capable of.

Yes, you can certainly learn to do anything and everything but there are only so many hours in a day.

[drake2]

I know it sounds shallow when you're in it, but try to be easier on yourself.
You have many options ahead of you. Some that you haven't even dreamed of yet.
I'm 43 and have suffered depression on and off all my life.
Currently I'm running a company with 23 staff and 8 stores. When I was young I never thought I'd live to be 30.
PLease go and see a doctor. I take SSRI's to fix my serotonin deficiency. They allow me to focus and think more clearly and rationally. Maybe they could work for you. But at least seek professional help.