[serendipity16]

What do you love or hate about ENTJ's? Do you ever feel the unstoppable force meets immovable object dynamic...good, bad?

[davai]

The head of program i had for my degree was cool. Good at motivating me and telling it as he saw it not as i'd wish to see it. I'd say they were my favourite qualities as his humour was close to lame.

[dontmesswithme]

They're definitely interesting and unusual. I have a bit of a problem with how insensitive I find they can be. I have no desire to date one--they're a little too dominant for my taste. But I don't dislike them.

[fairylights]

They terrify me but I can't seem to stay away. Moths and flames and stuff.

Wouldn't want to work for one because we would both drive each other insane.

[mastermind23]

A mix of awe, and admiration - from a distance. They're what I secretly wish I was.

[Crescent Fresh]

My cousin married with one, one of my best friend is this type too. Have a few acquaintance as well.

I honestly do not think I'm compatible with them. Even with my best friend I have to result in swallowing my pride to take her constant nagging and our opposing views of almost everything.

Though they seem to be very loyal and I trust them. The problem is it's really hard to take their quick-temper as they seem to get irritated quite easily.

I'm only saying this based on my interaction with them. Actually, that reminds me I need to learn more about ENTJs.



Edit: They seem to be very good at long-term financial planning, and definitely not a risker from my interaction with them. They also seem to get promotion faster than others as they have great social skills. Though I wouldn't say they're genuine with their kindness with most people as they seem to guard themselves against any potential rivals.



*based on my RL example, not intended to apply generalization here toward ENTJs.

[MyotisLucifugus]

	Originally Posted by dontmesswithme To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	They're definitely interesting and unusual. I have a bit of a problem with how insensitive I find they can be. I have no desire to date one--they're a little too dominant for my taste. But I don't dislike them.

Love them, and for that very reason. Most male ENTJs I know treat me like some highly amusing novelty, which is always entertaining. A good friend of mine fits the "lovable jerk" stereotype and it sometimes feels as if what he says is the same thing I would say if it were run through a jackass filter.

They take some acclimation work at first, but they are really fun.

[ThirdEye]

I had a best friend in high school who was an ENTJ. When our minds met, it was... dangerous, to say the least. I've met a few others through out the years, but he was the only one I was actually close to.

My main problem with ENTJs is their inability to stay focused; they jump from idea to idea, from person to person, and it can be frustrating at times. Almost like you need to keep them on a leash, which is damn near impossible, even for an INTJ. As frustrating as they can be, they inspire nothing but pure awe in me, and (like someone else in this thread said) they are sometimes what I wish I could be.

I've never had the pleasure of meeting a female ENTJ though (to my knowledge, anyway). The thought of it sounds interesting, though, and the more I think about it, the more I think I'd find those traits rather attractive. Who knows? All in all, I get the vibe that a lot of INTJs here don't like ENTJs, but I think they're awesome. They have a way of forcing me out of my shell like no one else does, and their arrogance easily one-ups an INTJ any day of the week, which makes interaction a hell of a lot easier than with most other people. I don't have to watch my language; I can say whatever the hell I want to them, and they just throw it right back at me, usually harder. I love it. It's refreshing, in a way.

[Distance]

Good god people! Don't date ENTJs. I wouldn't.

[Plato]

I am fairly certain my boss is an ENTJ.

At this point in time, I couldn't ask for a better boss. We have a great professional relationship.

We both have high respect for each other and share the same vision for the company. He trusts the quality of my work, so he gives me the space that I need to produce the best quality I can.

But, would I date one?

No, no I would not.

[Kisai]

I find them to be the most superficial of the NTs. I would not date anyone with an inferior Fi.

[Bisclavret]

Extreme bossiness would be my greatest worry.

[what yeah okay]

I worked for one who was an insecure, nanomanaging douche. Never again.

[AkaruiRain]

My broski's an ENTJ.

It's a strange love/hate thing. I'm constantly trying to tell him the consequences to his action, and he constantly tells me to get out more, and live a little. He's too brash and stubborn imo, but I guess I'm too passive and dull, in his.

But we've both admitted we're each others counter-part, yin to the yang, etc. We are the only two people in the world to share the same mother/father, which is overpowering to think about.

[JulietCapulet]

I just adore ENTJs. I wish there were more of them.

[Strathy]

My father is an ENTJ. Sometimes he pisses me off as hell with all the bullshit that he want to do, but I need to do the work.

[Bonafide]

Brother is an ENTJ, yea... we get along just fine. Except when he's a douchebag.

[timeineternity]

When they're immature, they can be terrible. I really have a liking for some though.
My uncle, for instance. He's intelligent and honest. I can sit and listen to him philosophize for hours, but never the other way around. That's probably the most significant thing as far as I see: not reticent to talk about his ideas (+1), but still doesn't understand the value of listening to others (-1).

[magichat]

Based on what I've read I think I can identify a couple of them in my own life. I personally find them to be pushy and condescending. They're pretty interesting if you have the time and patience to let them monologue, but they will honestly not hear a word you say.

[Fauxtential]

	Originally Posted by ThirdEye To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	My main problem with ENTJs is their inability to stay focused; they jump from idea to idea, from person to person, and it can be frustrating at times. Almost like you need to keep them on a leash, which is damn near impossible, even for an INTJ.

Yes…something I work on constantly. I like people, and there are so many of them. But, awareness and consistent self-review has brought some satisfying (and less frustrating) results.

[magichat]

I'm willing to bet the ENTJs I know aren't the best examples out there. Don't mean to sound prejudiced.

[druggie]

i can't stand most ENTJs cause their idea come out half baked. had the pleasure of working with one, he was so such a bigot that he wouldn't even listen to my input. this was an in class assignment that concluded in a group presentation. come the presentation he didn't have anything to say, but to read 2 sentences off of the transparency, while i had to present everything else that he failed to mention.

have a friend who's an ENTJ. sure, he's nice and easy to get along with, but he's constantly starting up debates with me. i avoid getting myself into debates at all cost, but once i'm in one i refuse to back down until i've proven my point. it's quite annoying.

[demaugustus]

The best ENTJ's you know are the ones you'd never think they are really ENTJs.

As with many other types, the worst ENTJ's can be like nails on a blackboard.

[PerplexingMango]

	Originally Posted by demvesalius To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	The best ENTJ's you know are the ones you'd never think they are really ENTJs. As with many other types, the worst ENTJ's can be like nails on a blackboard.

Agreed -- let's not forget each preference has their heroes and villains.

Just because you've had negative experiences with the people in your life you PERCEIVE to be ENTJ's doesn't mean you're necessarily correct, and certainly doesn't mean you can run the hasty generalization that ALL ENTJs are "assholes" or "bossy" or "insensitive".

I fell into this trap when I was younger with ESTPs. I was under the impression that they were, each and every one of them, kaniving, manipulative, con artists who only wanted to fulfill their short-lived, impulsive, selfish desires -- selfish desires which often jeopardized the well being of many people around them.
Then I hit college and met many wonderful ESTPs -- I mis-typed them at first because there was no way in hell I could associate these fun-loving, creative, and ridiculously hilarious individuals with the devil-child, anti-christ template I had drawn out prior to that.

So the life lesson is to keep your options open and don't expect all people of a type to be the same.
Oh, and always keep in mind that this MBTI typology hype is very subjective and loose -- people tend to wander from one end to another -- an "ENTJ" may be an "ENTJ" under the circumstances you see them in but an ISTP in their spare time.

[BenjoJames]

I've had an ENTJ teacher, absolutely brilliant. Not 'nice' by any means but certainly good at getting knowledge into one's head. Very un-biased, arrogant but happy to be proven wrong.

I'm an ENTJ myself and I have a not so positive reputation. One line I actually hear a lot is 'you're scary and I don't agree with you...but you're really really interesting to talk to'.

I find I attract girls who go for the whole 'bad boy' archetype too.

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Originally Posted by druggie To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

i can't stand most ENTJs cause their idea come out half baked. had the pleasure of working with one, he was so such a bigot that he wouldn't even listen to my input. this was an in class assignment that concluded in a group presentation. come the presentation he didn't have anything to say, but to read 2 sentences off of the transparency, while i had to present everything else that he failed to mention. have a friend who's an ENTJ. sure, he's nice and easy to get along with, but he's constantly starting up debates with me. i avoid getting myself into debates at all cost, but once i'm in one i refuse to back down until i've proven my point. it's quite annoying.

I regularly infuriate people with my constant need for debate. It's baffling how quickly they get emotional.