[zibber]

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	I would limit the usage of Internet. I would rather want them to go out and meet people, spending less time at home.

I think this is completely messed up. It's much better to raise healthy kids that want to go outside rather than imposing completely messed up restrictions.

[sevans]

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I am a parent. The only rule is that they study and live out their Catholic faith. The Catholic religion created Western Civilization. It started with illiterate warlike tribal barbarians enslaved by superstition and fear and with it they developed the University, the Hospital, and the Scientific Method. If my children were to be orphaned, split up and sent on their separate paths through life, the Catholic Church would be their North Star to guide them on their intellectual and spiritual journey. It is always there and it always points the way to heaven, in spite of its Earthly limitations.

It also led to the deaths of millions due to differences in ideas that are all still 99.9% wrong. Cathosism may have led to the creation of the western world but were still picking up the pieces left behind from the half assed job it did.

[samsmi]

Truth....no matter how bad it is anything can be dealt with together in a loving family environment as long as it is the truth...lies are another thing to be dealt with....hate them

[Haumea]

	Cathosism may have led to the creation of the western world but were still picking up the pieces left behind from the half assed job it did.

You clearly haven't read Huxley, who has plausibly hypothesized that Catholic visions of heaven and hell were likely influenced by the nutritional deficiencies of the times.

Talking about passing judgments from a lofty perch. Kids these days are 99.9% obnoxious.

	I think this is completely messed up. It's much better to raise healthy kids that want to go outside rather than imposing completely messed up restrictions.

"Junior, let's go play some ball"

"No, I want to play Angry Birds!!!!! [Tantrum]"

Ball's in your court, PotY.
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[Ricardo Diaz]

I would try to teach him the value of loyalty, math & to develop a healthy sense of contempt for societal "norms".

Also healthy eating & exercise. The both are related as one can't fully appreciate the other without another. Try cross training p90x on a diet of processed junk food.

[jimmythejet]

I have no rules, only boundaries. If my children are able to stay within those boundaries they eventually expand.

[ButterflyPsyche]

That instead of screaming or guilt trips, we try our best to communicate maturely and logically and give our reasons for things.

I come from a family where that did NOT happen, mainly because my mother is a very immature, manipulative person. I really just want a family where things can be discussed. Thankfully, my father is a lot more rational.

[SilasGTBronte]

If there was just one rule to chose? I would make sure they do not act spoiled or greedy.

[Fecal McAngry]

Do Not Set Fire To The House.

[Autumnleaf]

The rule I strongly impose is to treat each of them according to their individuality. The rule is for me to follow.

[Tactical Panda]

I am going to hold you to what you promise and negotiate, and there will be the consequences of rational consistency for foolishness, bad faith and insincerity. Pick your poison carefully - the unexpected outcomes of your wishes may be a hell. Or develop wisdom and integrity.

[Thinktress]

Think for yourself. Question everything.

[Human]

I was surprised to see so many comments I don't agree with. I usually feel so at home here in this forum.

Honestly I think some of these people should stop trying to relive their lives/dreams through their children. Let the child decide what they like.

Using MBTI as a guide, we can already see just how different people are. Your child could be any one of the 16 types. Let them excel in their chosen areas

[searches89]

LISTEN to what others say, even if you don't agree. NEVER try to talk louder or over someone as a way to not listen.

[IreOfDesire]

Question all rules others try to impose on you.

[gigglingToilet]

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Rules my kids live by: 1. Musical instruments need to be practiced daily (working up to 1 hour a day). You made the commitment, begged for lessons, now you will honour it. 2. Homework needs to be done right after school (after snack). 3. All meals must contain 1 fruit or vegetable to a total of at least 5 per day. 4. Grammar mistakes and spelling mistakes must be corrected immediately 5. The rest of the family does not need to see your temper. You are entitled to feel your anger (or your privates for that matter) but keep it in your room, we should not have to suffer from your moods. 6. You are accountable for all your actions and must take responsibility for their consequences. No excuses. As Yoda says there is no "try". There is only "do" or "not do". 7. Any activities you take an interest in, I will provide for you, even if it means that my lazy ass has to take on more clients to accomodate your financial needs. If private sketching classes, horseback riding classes or snowboarding classes will contribute to your quality of life/mastery then I will move heaven and earth to make sure you get them. 8. Bed time is never negotiable, yes sleep is THAT important. 9. A respectful tone will always be used with other people. In our home familiarity will never breed contempt. 10. Anything less than 100% effort is unacceptable. If 100% effort has been made and is still not enough to produce the desired result, a tutor will be provided. 11. Kisses, hugs and love are always free and available. 12. You will both be treated as individuals as per your own personalities. 13. You will never be compared to each other nor to anyone else. 14. Allowances are given to teach you the proper value of money. They will not be used as rewards or punishments. Allowances are to be used for anything deemed "extra" that you desire ie. toys, brand name clothes. 15. Playdates are not for weeknights. 16. If you ask me a question, I will always answer honestly even if it makes me uncomfortable. 17. Everyone in the family has chores that they picked as their responsibility, they are to be done without complaint as per schedule. 18.Important family decisions will be voted on democratically as per Adlerian method.

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[Cat1021]

Honor your commitments and your words.

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Originally Posted by 123456789 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I am a parent. The only rule is that they study and live out their Catholic faith. The Catholic religion created Western Civilization. It started with illiterate warlike tribal barbarians enslaved by superstition and fear and with it they developed the University, the Hospital, and the Scientific Method. If my children were to be orphaned, split up and sent on their separate paths through life, the Catholic Church would be their North Star to guide them on their intellectual and spiritual journey. It is always there and it always points the way to heaven, in spite of its Earthly limitations.

Having grown up in the Catholic church, I can tell you that Christianity is fear based. I broke off and became more spiritual and took to meditating and trying to focus on being a good person and not thinking about the fear of wondering what will happen after I die. My mother STILL tries to save my soul, and I feel like there are parts of me she can't accept and therefore doesn't really love all of me just as I am. A child should always feel loved and nurtured for who they are. A life of guilt, shame, and fear is what I experienced growing up in the Catholic church and no child should have to deal with the adult repercussions of a life like that.

[INTJRyan]

Stay outta my weed unless you're matching bowls.

[Human]

	Originally Posted by IreOfDesire To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Question all rules others try to impose on you.

Including this rule I hope

[Zodd]

These I think are good rules for children and parents that I think are desirable:

*They always need to explain themselves (unless they are really tired and it is petty).
*Parents always need to explain themselves.
*Only healthy food/drinks, exept on special occasions and or once a week or something. (I don't understand why some parents give their baby icecream, it will only feed their hunger for unhealthy food, best is to delay their hunger for unhealthy food as long as you can, I think. If they don't get exposed to unhealthy sweet food/candies then they also won't have much desire for it. Probably this will grow and you will have to give into it bit for bit)
*Always have apples, oranges, kiwis, lettuce, cucumber, canned tuna, eggs, bread, noodles, turkey/chicken slices, low-fat yoghurt, muesli at home. Takes only 5 minutes to make a perfectly healthy dinner+dessert out of that, eventhough it isn't very very tasty it is handy if you don't have time.
*They always need to learn everything (musical instrument, drawing, building stuff, reading, reading what is meant, all academics you can think of, different kinds of sports that require different kinds of skills, physical training, gaming, computer&internet). I think we can all agree we don't live in a country where the schools can be better, so you have to take academics into your own hand and not let your kid suffer from a bad school.
*They need to regularly learn all those things, things he likes he can do more and things he doesn't like he can do less but still needs to do everything regularly.
What a lot of people don't understand is that everything you can learn is that it can be made more fun. Think about board games, videogames, making things competitive, coming up with stuff yourself.
*Never leave them bored, if they are bored you should be putting a lot of effort into finding something he can do what he likes. If he doesn't want to do anything, order him to do homework. But you have to be sure he really is bored, and not just chilling.
*Yeah, hugs and kisses are free and always available, but not when I'm doing something important like I'm on the phone or something. Though, when something is really bothering him, you always need to put him first. This shows him that he can't be demanding everything from everyone and that when someone ignores you it isn't because they dislike you.
*No TV. Just download everything from the internet.
*Read reviews of what they are watching, watch it first yourself and/or watch it with them and explain it to them and give your opinion on it.
*He needs to socialize, with adults and with kids.
*Let him listen to how adults talk.
*About theism. Explain it to him logically from a scientific method. Including arguments theists use. Even kids I think can easily understand why it absolutely doesn't make any sense, even what the theist "intellectuals" say in debates with Dawkins etc.
*So let them figure it out for themselves, if you explained everything and they still believe it, so be it. This is very important to do at all times whatever you talk about, I think. Never tell them what is the right thing to think or do, even if it is just in an undertone.
*Most kids love to talk. Understand that is how they are learning and exploit that.
*Parents with more money have more money to let their kids try different sports, buy toys, board games, pets, better food, better daycare. It is important.
*Show your kids why you yourself are a good human being aside from that you are his parent.
*Help him overcome fears. Sometimes be a bit pushy to let him try things he fears.
*Let him do just nothing.
*Meditating.
*Have different kinds of good art around the house. Music, paintings/posters.
*Expose him to different kinds of (children) music, paintings, movies etc.
*Make him do stuff that he doesn't enjoy, if he doesn't do that already.
*Make him help around the house.
*Read a lot of books to him.
*Have a "joker system". Give them a joker by which they can excuse a task every week, 2 weeks, month (whatever you want). You can also let them excuse something and let them do extra homework in return. I always loved surprises as a kid, like one time my parents picked me up from school to go to this themepark that I really enjoyed, that is nice. All the things that I wrote are pretty time-consuming for children. So you need to find a good balance in structure and being easy, I think.
*Hang this in the toiletroom so you can read it when you are taking a #2:

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I've been thinking how desirable it is for a kid to have a brother around the house. A brother is very differently from your parents, and very differently from your friends/classmates. But I don't really know what to think, I don't have a brother or sister.

And if you have problems in your life, like depression or something. Do you tell that to your kids, and how much of it do you tell, and at what age do you tell that stuff? Kids most often know when there is something wrong with their parents, especially their mom, I think.


I find it very cool to read that parents do things I agree with and that are out of the ordinary or how my parents didn't do it.

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And also, how the fuck do you protect your kids from the internet? The internet can be such an incredibly great place, where you can get anything you want. But how do you protect them from porn, and rotten.com and stuff? And other things you don't want them to see.

[Vocal]

Play yourself...to....well....get better.

[Zsych]

Keep experimenting with things you're interested in (theorize, learn through experience, keep taking action). Being a good person being second after that first point (actually I'm not sure how that would go - might just have to suggest that the kid focus on the bigger picture, and not sacrifice the long term for short term results)

[JC22]

no orgies after 11:45 PM

[Vocal]

Its called..... disciplined...infact......I mean....erm....where to start.....Anywhere there's parenting involved....there has to be Understanding.....Its difficult to parent if U don care.....so that could have some influence....and....alot of other things...its kinda difficult to summarize, for me.

[Haumea]

Hmm.

I would try to establish good habits of diet, sleep, hygiene and physical exercise, and aside from that it would depend on the kid. I would restrict Internet, computer tablets and video games (or whatever their future versions are) considerably, though.