[ryudo575]

Hi fellow INTJs, new to the forum. I'm a 23 year old male, working remotely from home, on a 10-day on/4-day off roster.

This is what's bugging me for awhile, I'll point form to help you guys/gals empathise. I'm looking for guidance - not help.

Have you:

- Ever realised that although you might be heading towards your ideal future, you know you will miss the other amazing things that life has to offer that can only be enjoyed in certain ages?

- Have you ever realised, that in order to enjoy these other things, you need to break your current habits and start to challenge yourself other than setting life progression milestones and creating personal objectives?

- Have you ever arrived at the point where wanting to change your habits is a conflict of what you are?

- Have you ever realised, that you need to be more flexible, less rigid and more spontaneous?

- Have you ever tried to do this and find this incredibly difficult?

That's the state I'm in. I'm trying to learn to let go, live and let live, be and be free. It's annoying because my analytical side kicks into overdrive. It tells me a waste of time in terms of career progression, money, fulfilling my life ambitions and other personal goals I want to achieve.

A prime example: I aim to be lean, fit and ripped. Because of this personal level of fitness I want to achieve, I drink seldomly. This is a problem, because my circle of friends drink occasionally and it collides with my fitness goal. I do want to drink with them, but then I say to myself it's something extra I have to work off and will prolong my achievement.

Do any of you relate? Have any of you broken your INTJ behaviours? If so, how?

[crea]

	Originally Posted by ryudo575 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	A prime example: I aim to be lean, fit and ripped. Because of this personal level of fitness I want to achieve, I drink seldomly. This is a problem, because my circle of friends drink occasionally and it collides with my fitness goal. I do want to drink with them, but then I say to myself it's something extra I have to work off and will prolong my achievement.

why don't you concentrate on your "will-power" instead of figuring impossible ways.
it's either you get ripped, or you get drunk.
I do not think your friends will be making you drink with them just because you are there.
you can go with them, but does it mean you have to drink?
one or two glasses of beer a week won't change much. just refrain from eating along with the beer.

[ryudo575]

	Originally Posted by crea To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	why don't you concentrate on your "will-power" instead of figuring impossible ways.

Will power is not the problem. It's not impossible to achieve a balance between what you want to achieve and having new experiences.

	Originally Posted by crea To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	it's either you get ripped, or you get drunk.

And there it is, in black and white. Two sides of the coin - ripped or drunk, there is no in between.

I guess I need to chill and just go with the flow - create my balance through my experiences of what works and what doesn't. Do what I feel like at the time and don't think about what happens after.

So yeah, a few beers won't hurt, but I'll make them low carb alternatives and drink sloww-leee. See if I can get away with just having a few beers a week.

[peppermint]

Originally Posted by ryudo575 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Hi fellow INTJs, new to the forum. I'm a 23 year old male, working remotely from home, on a 10-day on/4-day off roster. This is what's bugging me for awhile, I'll point form to help you guys/gals empathise. I'm looking for guidance - not help. Have you: - Ever realised that although you might be heading towards your ideal future, you know you will miss the other amazing things that life has to offer that can only be enjoyed in certain ages? - Have you ever realised, that in order to enjoy these other things, you need to break your current habits and start to challenge yourself other than setting life progression milestones and creating personal objectives? - Have you ever arrived at the point where wanting to change your habits is a conflict of what you are? - Have you ever realised, that you need to be more flexible, less rigid and more spontaneous? - Have you ever tried to do this and find this incredibly difficult? That's the state I'm in. I'm trying to learn to let go, live and let live, be and be free. It's annoying because my analytical side kicks into overdrive. It tells me a waste of time in terms of career progression, money, fulfilling my life ambitions and other personal goals I want to achieve. A prime example: I aim to be lean, fit and ripped. Because of this personal level of fitness I want to achieve, I drink seldomly. This is a problem, because my circle of friends drink occasionally and it collides with my fitness goal. I do want to drink with them, but then I say to myself it's something extra I have to work off and will prolong my achievement. Do any of you relate? Have any of you broken your INTJ behaviours? If so, how?

Prioritize. Figure out what you want, and get it. If it makes you happier to drink with them, drink with them.

[magnum]

Since I worked bloody hard 13 years to achieve my goal, I´ll share my thoughts...

	Originally Posted by ryudo575 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	- Ever realised that although you might be heading towards your ideal future, you know you will miss the other amazing things that life has to offer that can only be enjoyed in certain ages?

Irrelevant thought and secondary need. Ignorance is a bliss, when you have the ideal future to catch. Enjoy life later, when you have achieved the stuff you wanted.

	Originally Posted by ryudo575 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	- Have you ever realised, that in order to enjoy these other things, you need to break your current habits and start to challenge yourself other than setting life progression milestones and creating personal objectives?

There was a strong force by others, who thought I should stop (to be exact, every single month in 13 years I heard the same!) and change myself. "Enjoy life! C´mon, lets go out, meet people at bar!". I knew I missed something, but never looked back - since my finances were limited all the time, I only focused using them on getting the future I want.

	Originally Posted by ryudo575 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	- Have you ever arrived at the point where wanting to change your habits is a conflict of what you are?

Not that time. Once my dream was achieved I started to change myself.

	Originally Posted by ryudo575 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	- Have you ever realised, that you need to be more flexible, less rigid and more spontaneous?

Never. The world was black and white to me at that time.

	Originally Posted by ryudo575 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	- Have you ever tried to do this and find this incredibly difficult?

No trying. Had those thoughts occasionally, but got back to work.

	Originally Posted by ryudo575 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	That's the state I'm in. I'm trying to learn to let go, live and let live, be and be free. It's annoying because my analytical side kicks into overdrive. It tells me a waste of time in terms of career progression, money, fulfilling my life ambitions and other personal goals I want to achieve.

It´s intuition that tells you to work hard. It know´s you´re on the right track. Meanwhile your hidden F side wants to be connected with "social life".

Once you´re achieved something, let go and enjoy, until you find new challenges. (Otherwise you´ll die to heart attack)

[LOL WUT]

I indulge. It's what I do.

No need to be obsessed with perfection. Why don't you skip meals instead of skipping drinking?

Because that's retarded? Then obviously you don't care about lowering your body fat.

Unless of course you realize it doesn't matter if you overeat every once in a while because you'll still be relatively lean.

[Strathy]

	Originally Posted by ryudo575 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Have you: - Ever realised that although you might be heading towards your ideal future, you know you will miss the other amazing things that life has to offer that can only be enjoyed in certain ages?

Less thinking about the past. Care less what you haven't done. Focus on things that are happening right now, you will enjoy your life way more and there will be less time to think about things that you cared in the past. That's what I did.

	Originally Posted by ryudo575 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	- Have you ever realised, that in order to enjoy these other things, you need to break your current habits and start to challenge yourself other than setting life progression milestones and creating personal objectives?

Yes. You need to break some of the habits. If you can't, hide it from everybody.

	Originally Posted by ryudo575 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	- Have you ever arrived at the point where wanting to change your habits is a conflict of what you are?

Play the role firmly. Play the role enough and it will become your nature eventually.

	Originally Posted by ryudo575 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	- Have you ever realised, that you need to be more flexible, less rigid and more spontaneous?

Read more books in general. Read about social skills, politics, psychology. Watch movies about characters that are your role model, channel them.

	Originally Posted by ryudo575 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	- Have you ever tried to do this and find this incredibly difficult?

I did all the things so far, it's delightful. Sometimes it's hard, but it is way much better when you are in a better environment that you prefer.

	Originally Posted by ryudo575 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	That's the state I'm in. I'm trying to learn to let go, live and let live, be and be free. It's annoying because my analytical side kicks into overdrive. It tells me a waste of time in terms of career progression, money, fulfilling my life ambitions and other personal goals I want to achieve.

You're lazy. The opportunism is a very delicious fruit that you can taste. The problem that you're not trying. If I would surrender in the half of this year I would be depressed and event unlucky. Analytical side will kick in, but use it only when you want something, even if your analytical side says it's not worth it.

	Originally Posted by ryudo575 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	A prime example: I aim to be lean, fit and ripped. Because of this personal level of fitness I want to achieve, I drink seldomly. This is a problem, because my circle of friends drink occasionally and it collides with my fitness goal. I do want to drink with them, but then I say to myself it's something extra I have to work off and will prolong my achievement.

Again, change the environment.