Things INTJs wish other types knew about them... - Page 6

**Brambleshire** · 05-30-2012, 01:01 PM

That I can debate or disagree on anything without getting all wound up, taking it personal, getting all emotional, etc; and that I expect everyone else to have the decency to do the same. When a topic comes up and you discover we disagree why do you get upset and angry as if I am no longer a decent person because Im not a cookie cutter obama liberal (or whatever else) uhhhg i just wish a debate could always be logical/rational instead of degrading into a interrupting/talking over the other person war where it looks more like a argument with my exgirlfriend than a intellectual debate.

**Kage** · 05-30-2012, 09:03 PM

when i show you a picture or a video of something and you automatically call it "fake" a half second into it without even trying to analyze it, you will get grouped with "the rest of them", and my future interactions with you will be very limited
the reason im even showing you this picture or video is because i have ALREADY DONE THE RESEARCH, EXPERIMENTS, STUDY, AND ANALYZING SEVERAL TIMES FOR A VERY LONG TIME to make sure it "is what it is"

**what yeah okay** · 05-30-2012, 10:46 PM

Things other types wish INTJs knew about themselves:

you are wrong all the time
you are not gods

**Tactical Panda** · 05-30-2012, 10:49 PM

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	Things other types wish INTJs knew about themselves: you are wrong all the time you are not gods

It is possible that you are right.

Enjoy the paradox hole you have dug for yourself.

Is there any INTJ who thinks they are a god? Really?

**Kage** · 05-30-2012, 11:34 PM

	Originally Posted by Tactical Panda To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	It is possible that you are right. Enjoy the paradox hole you have dug for yourself. Is there any INTJ who thinks they are a god? Really?

All of us is God

**Shadizar** · 05-31-2012, 11:47 AM

When you call me for a lift, be ready and pay attention for my arrival; my time is worth more to me than you are, and I won't waste it coming in to socialize with who ever while you finish... what the fuck ever you're still doing, that you couldn't fucking finish before calling me.

**MacheteGeek** · 05-31-2012, 12:16 PM

	Originally Posted by what yeah okay To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Things other types wish INTJs knew about themselves: you are wrong all the time you are not gods

So if I were to say that you are correct?

**Shadizar** · 05-31-2012, 12:19 PM

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	So if I were to say that you are correct?

You would be wrong

**X51** · 07-15-2012, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Kage
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when i show you a picture or a video of something and you automatically call it "fake" a half second into it without even trying to analyze it, you will get grouped with "the rest of them", and my future interactions with you will be very limited
the reason im even showing you this picture or video is because i have ALREADY DONE THE RESEARCH, EXPERIMENTS, STUDY, AND ANALYZING SEVERAL TIMES FOR A VERY LONG TIME to make sure it "is what it is"

Ha ha, so true!! I have grouped many with the "the rest of them".

**OhComeON** · 07-19-2012, 08:05 AM

I don't understand why you want me to smile more. I don't understand why you think I don't like you. It's not that I don't like you, you're just not interesting to me and I have no idea why you think I might be interesting to you. I am not a challenge, I am not morose, I am not mad. If you engage me with the intent of making my sad life "better" know that the blank stare is disinterest and move on.

Othesemo · 07-19-2012, 09:59 AM

That not all INTJs are the same.

**linstiks** · 07-19-2012, 03:03 PM

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	(Not sure if this is an INTJ trait or if it's just me) Stop telling me to calm down and treating me like I'm an active time-bomb. I AM calm. However, you TELLING me to calm down is making me LESS calm.

Yes, usually if I am getting more emotional and someone is telling me how to act it makes me suspect their motives. If I'm getting anxious it's because I can't handle bs, especially being lied to when I am seeking closure.

**Arbosis** · 07-19-2012, 06:23 PM

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	Things other types wish INTJs knew about themselves: you are wrong all the time [...]

	Originally Posted by Tactical Panda To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	It is possible that you are right. Enjoy the paradox hole you have dug for yourself. [...]

Other types should know that you can't win against an INTJ

**scorpiomover** · 07-20-2012, 07:22 AM

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	Other types should know that you can't win against an INTJ

More like, that other types should know that immature and unsuccessful INTJs refuse to admit that they are wrong.

E.G. A surgeon who, when he has made a mistake in an operation that would kill the patient if not fixed, will never try to repair it, so long as others are present who can see that he made the error, because fixing it would show that he admits he made the error, unless someone else accepts the blame for the damage that he caused.

**PugC** · 07-20-2012, 10:56 AM

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	When you call me for a lift, be ready and pay attention for my arrival; my time is worth more to me than you are, and I won't waste it coming in to socialize with who ever while you finish... what the fuck ever you're still doing, that you couldn't fucking finish before calling me.

This. So. True.

**Magda** · 07-20-2012, 07:22 PM

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	This. So. True.

Yep, I hate it when someone asks for a ride somewhere, I tell them when to expect me, and when I get there they're still packing.

**stopwinking** · 07-20-2012, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by OhComeON
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I don't understand why you want me to smile more. I don't understand why you think I don't like you. It's not that I don't like you, you're just not interesting to me and I have no idea why you think I might be interesting to you. I am not a challenge, I am not morose, I am not mad. If you engage me with the intent of making my sad life "better" know that the blank stare is disinterest and move on.

I am not exaggerating when i state that at least for the past 15 years, I have had at least one interaction every day of my Life in which I wished I could just mentally imprint ^this^ on the other person's brain and MOVE ON.
It doesn't seem to matter what mood I'm actually in,nor what the other person's age,gender or place in the world is when these scenarios occur. It seems that the older I get, the more often these scenarios occur,too...I think it has to do with overly-friendly-passive-aggression,especially for females being considered as 'maturity' by a large number of people and is therefore expected of me more the more womanly I appear at a passing glance.
It was most painful in my teen years, though, everyone expects you to be judgmental and nasty as a teen, without acknowledging you or a singular interaction as individual.

**SarcasticVlad** · 07-20-2012, 11:51 PM

Just because I can be argumentative doesn't mean I'm an asshole. If I argue with you I'm not attacking you, I'm educating you. It sounds arrogant but it isn't. My intentions are pure as holy water. If you put an effort to get to know me more you will realize that I'm actually a very nice guy.

**linstiks** · 07-21-2012, 07:49 AM

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	Just because I can be argumentative doesn't mean I'm an asshole. If I argue with you I'm not attacking you, I'm educating you. It sounds arrogant but it isn't. My intentions are pure as holy water. If you put an effort to get to know me more you will realize that I'm actually a very nice guy.

Yes. I'm not confronting with things I think aren't worth the energy. If I argue, it's more likely than not that I care a great deal. If someone doesn't take the energy to get to know me they don't realize this.

**Nytro** · 07-22-2012, 02:57 AM

Just because I'm not arguing with you does not mean I agree with your point. I just don't think you're worth arguing with.

**Shadizar** · 07-22-2012, 09:38 AM

	Originally Posted by SarcasticVlad To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Just because I can be argumentative doesn't mean I'm an asshole. If I argue with you I'm not attacking you, I'm educating you. It sounds arrogant but it isn't. My intentions are pure as holy water. If you put an effort to get to know me more you will realize that I'm actually a very nice guy.

Unless we've already gotten to know each other quite well, and you've finally learned to do things the right way; then I'll advise you to use any/every integrity debilitating short cut available. Beware the ENFP eyes crossed with the ESTP grin; failing to call me out on this line of shit will lose you tons of hard earned respect.

**jst9820** · 07-23-2012, 08:58 PM

If I turn and walk away from you, or in the very rare event you see me emotional, RUN the other direction!

**erosan** · 07-24-2012, 01:47 PM

Wow, this thread is full of truth and win. Especially all the remarks about the serious look (yeah, this is my only facial expression, deal with it), the spacing out (as someone said, if I space out in the middle of your sentence it is because an idea just occurred to me and I'm pursuing it... not necessarily related to what you were saying, though) and 'our' argumentative nature (It is not that you can't win an argument with an INTJ, but it is difficult, because we only argue if we know we are wrong and you are right, otherwise we shut up, listen, learn from you and will in fact be grateful for the new information).

To contribute:

I wish people understood sarcasm for what it is, a game of wits. It is about coming up with the funniest and cutting remark you can in the least amount of time. And I've trained myself to be so good at it that sarcasm is my second nature. It does not matter if we are having a friendly conversation, if we are screaming at each other fighting, if it is a serious issue or trivial chatter, sarcastic remarks are always being generated in my brain (even if your grandma just passed away - I know when to bite my tongue though).

I wish people would know that I love learning things, so yes, I find it more entertaining to stay at home reading about the history of how pop-tarts came to be than going to your party.

And no, I don't need more friends, I'm fine with the one or two I have (if you're lucky enough to find that many interesting people). I don't see them very often, that does not mean we don't get along!

**Vocal** · 07-24-2012, 02:04 PM

Dont Fukin chat to me............if u cant make up your OWN mind.

**Steven Bukal** · 07-26-2012, 12:10 AM

If I'm voluntarily giving you my attention, that means I like you.

I don't lie, I speak plainly, and I qualify my factual statements with appropriate degrees of certainty. That's what you're getting if you want to talk with me. Please consider responding in kind.

If I get silent after you say something it's because I'm thinking. I like to do that before running my mouth.

I care deeply, and I do have emotions. The best action is still defined by rational choice theory, not whatever feels right.

Interacting with you is not as easy for me as it looks. You're not seeing the preparation beforehand or the cooldown afterwards.

What I really want to know is: What do you think you know, and how do you think you know it? What are you doing, and why are you doing it?

Please don't give me unsolicited gifts. If I wanted one of those I would have bought one myself. And what in Celestia's name am I supposed to do in return?

Please don't talk about me as though you know my thoughts well. You don't.

Please don't touch me without permission.

I am extremely open to criticism of my ideas, especially the strongest ones. The information that destroys my entire worldview is the most important information for me to get on my search for truth. I promise you can't hurt me.

05-30-2012, 01:01 PM	#126
Brambleshire Member [14%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 570	That I can debate or disagree on anything without getting all wound up, taking it personal, getting all emotional, etc; and that I expect everyone else to have the decency to do the same. When a topic comes up and you discover we disagree why do you get upset and angry as if I am no longer a decent person because Im not a cookie cutter obama liberal (or whatever else) uhhhg i just wish a debate could always be logical/rational instead of degrading into a interrupting/talking over the other person war where it looks more like a argument with my exgirlfriend than a intellectual debate.
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05-30-2012, 09:03 PM	#127
Kage New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 10	when i show you a picture or a video of something and you automatically call it "fake" a half second into it without even trying to analyze it, you will get grouped with "the rest of them", and my future interactions with you will be very limited the reason im even showing you this picture or video is because i have ALREADY DONE THE RESEARCH, EXPERIMENTS, STUDY, AND ANALYZING SEVERAL TIMES FOR A VERY LONG TIME to make sure it "is what it is"
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05-30-2012, 10:46 PM	#128
what yeah okay Member [17%] MBTI: ENTP Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 686	Things other types wish INTJs knew about themselves: you are wrong all the time you are not gods
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05-31-2012, 11:47 AM	#131
Shadizar Restricted [forum rules] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 6,865	When you call me for a lift, be ready and pay attention for my arrival; my time is worth more to me than you are, and I won't waste it coming in to socialize with who ever while you finish... what the fuck ever you're still doing, that you couldn't fucking finish before calling me.
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07-19-2012, 08:05 AM	#135
OhComeON Member [02%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 119	I don't understand why you want me to smile more. I don't understand why you think I don't like you. It's not that I don't like you, you're just not interesting to me and I have no idea why you think I might be interesting to you. I am not a challenge, I am not morose, I am not mad. If you engage me with the intent of making my sad life "better" know that the blank stare is disinterest and move on.
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07-19-2012, 09:59 AM	#136
Othesemo Core Member [121%] MBTI: INTj Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,872	That not all INTJs are the same.
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07-20-2012, 11:51 PM	#143
SarcasticVlad Veteran Member [62%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,513	Just because I can be argumentative doesn't mean I'm an asshole. If I argue with you I'm not attacking you, I'm educating you. It sounds arrogant but it isn't. My intentions are pure as holy water. If you put an effort to get to know me more you will realize that I'm actually a very nice guy.
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07-22-2012, 02:57 AM	#145
Nytro New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 10	Just because I'm not arguing with you does not mean I agree with your point. I just don't think you're worth arguing with.
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07-23-2012, 08:58 PM	#147
jst9820 New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 43	If I turn and walk away from you, or in the very rare event you see me emotional, RUN the other direction!
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07-24-2012, 01:47 PM	#148
erosan New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 7	Wow, this thread is full of truth and win. Especially all the remarks about the serious look (yeah, this is my only facial expression, deal with it), the spacing out (as someone said, if I space out in the middle of your sentence it is because an idea just occurred to me and I'm pursuing it... not necessarily related to what you were saying, though) and 'our' argumentative nature (It is not that you can't win an argument with an INTJ, but it is difficult, because we only argue if we know we are wrong and you are right, otherwise we shut up, listen, learn from you and will in fact be grateful for the new information). To contribute: I wish people understood sarcasm for what it is, a game of wits. It is about coming up with the funniest and cutting remark you can in the least amount of time. And I've trained myself to be so good at it that sarcasm is my second nature. It does not matter if we are having a friendly conversation, if we are screaming at each other fighting, if it is a serious issue or trivial chatter, sarcastic remarks are always being generated in my brain (even if your grandma just passed away - I know when to bite my tongue though). I wish people would know that I love learning things, so yes, I find it more entertaining to stay at home reading about the history of how pop-tarts came to be than going to your party. And no, I don't need more friends, I'm fine with the one or two I have (if you're lucky enough to find that many interesting people). I don't see them very often, that does not mean we don't get along!
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07-24-2012, 02:04 PM	#149
Vocal Member [19%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 791	Dont Fukin chat to me............if u cant make up your OWN mind.
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07-26-2012, 12:10 AM	#150
Steven Bukal Member [06%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 259	If I'm voluntarily giving you my attention, that means I like you. I don't lie, I speak plainly, and I qualify my factual statements with appropriate degrees of certainty. That's what you're getting if you want to talk with me. Please consider responding in kind. If I get silent after you say something it's because I'm thinking. I like to do that before running my mouth. I care deeply, and I do have emotions. The best action is still defined by rational choice theory, not whatever feels right. Interacting with you is not as easy for me as it looks. You're not seeing the preparation beforehand or the cooldown afterwards. What I really want to know is: What do you think you know, and how do you think you know it? What are you doing, and why are you doing it? Please don't give me unsolicited gifts. If I wanted one of those I would have bought one myself. And what in Celestia's name am I supposed to do in return? Please don't talk about me as though you know my thoughts well. You don't. Please don't touch me without permission. I am extremely open to criticism of my ideas, especially the strongest ones. The information that destroys my entire worldview is the most important information for me to get on my search for truth. I promise you can't hurt me.
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