[Autumnleaf]

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Do any of you have any theories about this? Other than the 'this is pure bs' theory?

[Feral]

Never quite know what to think about those...
Some things spontaneously combust. Compost piles, pistachios, various crap. The reasons for those things spontaneously combusting though, I can't see how those would apply to a living human being.

The thing that always gives me pause before I call it bullshit is that it's always just the body charred. Sometimes not even the whole body. That means that that person burst into flames and was engulfed and killed so fast that they didn't have time to struggle. But there's no accelerant. The thing about fire, is that fire is hot, and it hurts when it is on you. I think you'd have to be in some sort of coma to sleep through part of you catching on fire... not just the pain, but the smoke, and the smell, and the sounds of burning... you'd expect someone to run around their house and light the rest of it on fire. But it's just a burned corpse. So without further information, I'm just as stumped as anyone else.

[zergonipal]

	He said Professor Bernard Knight, in his book on forensic pathology, had written about spontaneous combustion and noted that such reported cases were almost always near an open fireplace or chimney.

The only explanation I can think of is that a spark somehow ignited his clothing or something. But even then, as Feral said, death wouldn't be instant, far from it. For that matter - human bodies just aren't that flammable. It's pretty damned hard to make them catch on fire at all, especially without some kind of accelerant, and they aren't like paper, burning bright and quick and fading a few seconds later, it takes time. Time in which the rest of the room ought to catch on fire too. Why doesn't this happen?

Truly inexplicable.

[Megalomania]

They've done plenty experiments showing that human bodies make great candles with all the blubber we have on us. It's not impossible for someone to catch on fire and burn to ashes without burning the area around them.

[Feral]

	Originally Posted by Megalomania To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	They've done plenty experiments showing that human bodies make great candles with all the blubber we have on us. It's not impossible for someone to catch on fire and burn to ashes without burning the area around them.

About as flammable as any other fatty mammal. That fat would need to be exposed to be able to catch a spark from a fire, skin is good at protecting it from such a thing. That's still suggesting a slow burn, which most people wouldn't just sit around and watch, or sleep through.

The best explanations say that this is likely the cause, but again, these people just sat around and let it happen? The explanation is that some small piece of fiber catches fire, which causes the skin to bubble and split, releasing the fat which catches more fire. Chars the whole thing like that.

But I doubt they tried it on a living pig.

[Traverser]

	Originally Posted by Megalomania To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	They've done plenty experiments showing that human bodies make great candles with all the blubber we have on us. It's not impossible for someone to catch on fire and burn to ashes without burning the area around them.

I concur. The vast majority of victims tend to be the elderly or those with a history of drug abuse, including alcohol consumption. These individuals can sleep through just about anything under the right circumstances. I'm convinced that an ordinary chemical reaction, and bad timing, is to blame. Plus, you never know what side-effects new medicines can have these days. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them turn you into a human candle stick.

What puzzles me sometimes is how these cases don't result in the whole home burning to the ground. The few experiments I've seen failed to replicate these results.

[Megalomania]

Originally Posted by Feral To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

About as flammable as any other fatty mammal. That fat would need to be exposed to be able to catch a spark from a fire, skin is good at protecting it from such a thing. That's still suggesting a slow burn, which most people wouldn't just sit around and watch, or sleep through. The best explanations say that this is likely the cause, but again, these people just sat around and let it happen? The explanation is that some small piece of fiber catches fire, which causes the skin to bubble and split, releasing the fat which catches more fire. Chars the whole thing like that. But I doubt they tried it on a living pig.

Every single case seems to have a source of ignition nearby whether it is a fireplace or a cigarette. Chance? If someone standing in the line at Walmart bursts into flame and disappears I will give a little more credence to that idea that the source of ignition is internal.

[Autumnleaf]

Maybe the person dies of a heart attack or stroke or 'whatever' and shortly after they catch fire from an external source and burn down to whatever is left.

[RBM]

	Originally Posted by Autumnleaf To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Do any of you have any theories about this? Other than the 'this is pure bs' theory?

Here's a theory (From a TOE) that incorporates this event perfectly.

Paranormal events are natural artifacts of the nature of consciousness and represent the normal activity of the nonphysical energy that is consciousness. For this reason, they sometimes violate PMR causality rules and are vehemently denied by those ensnared within the familiar and comforting grip of widely accepted scientific or cultural beliefs that are based on the exclusivity of our local physical reality.

If one follows where the data takes them, without an agenda, the above theory 'fits the data', better.

[Megalomania]

	Originally Posted by RBM To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Here's a theory (From a TOE) that incorporates this event perfectly. If one follows where the data takes them, without an agenda, the above theory 'fits the data', better.

Why?

[mieu]

Originally Posted by Feral To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Never quite know what to think about those... Some things spontaneously combust. Compost piles, pistachios, various crap. The reasons for those things spontaneously combusting though, I can't see how those would apply to a living human being. The thing that always gives me pause before I call it bullshit is that it's always just the body charred. Sometimes not even the whole body. That means that that person burst into flames and was engulfed and killed so fast that they didn't have time to struggle. But there's no accelerant. The thing about fire, is that fire is hot, and it hurts when it is on you. I think you'd have to be in some sort of coma to sleep through part of you catching on fire... not just the pain, but the smoke, and the smell, and the sounds of burning... you'd expect someone to run around their house and light the rest of it on fire. But it's just a burned corpse. So without further information, I'm just as stumped as anyone else.

I have to agree with you here, nothing seems to make sense whenever I see this being brought up. There's no way that someone can burn to death while laying completely still in a recliner in their living room. I'd almost go so far as to insist that they must have been dead before actually catching alight.

This means that only two possibilities remain:
1) It's a hit job and all of the victims are somehow involved with an underground cult or the mob.
2) It's aliens

[Traverser]

	Originally Posted by Megalomania To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Every single case seems to have a source of ignition nearby whether it is a fireplace or a cigarette. Chance? If someone standing in the line at Walmart bursts into flame and disappears I will give a little more credence to that idea that the source of ignition is internal.

Well, to be fair, I have heard some plausible theories suggesting that stomache acid could react pretty violently to certain foreign chemicles. I'm no chemist, but it seems to make sense.