[Aklis]

I'm constantly bored, almost to a point of depression. My life consists of long spaces of boredom interspersed with an occasional, memorable happening.

I despise the dull routine of normal life. Currently, I'm still being a good person and getting an education. I switched to a school a month ago, said to be the best in my home city, but this far, I am not impressed at all, least of all with the teachers. Furthermore, I am considering dropping out to start my own business.

Now, the thing is, during these long periods of boredom (for which I have seen a psychiatrist, who believed that it was because of me not being stimulated by my surroundings, although I was tested for bipolar disorder which came back negative), I begin to feel the urge to do reckless things.

Examples of these are trying drugs, getting pissed out of my mind and having violent sex. Essentially, I feel the urge to harm myself.

Anyone know what I'm talking about? Is this an INTJ-thing, a maturity-issue (I'm not all that old, mind you!) or is it just me?

[UKobsessed]

I sort of get what you mean...I've always found myself a bit compulsive. I think of reckless things to do all the time. Harmful things, extremely dangerous things. For instance, I'm standing on a balcony on a tall building. I think that I could, concievably, jump. I've never done anything to harm myself, but I think of it. Or if I'm holding a knife to slice some fruit, I think, I could easily fall and stab myself on the knife, wouldn't that be a tragedy?

[storm eyes]

I do, I contain them with a metaphorical straitjacket.

[Distance]

Self-destructive? Nope. Exciting? Yes. Se's my tert so it helps to kickstart me out of the blahs.

[Seriously]

	Originally Posted by Distance To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Self-destructive? Nope. Exciting? Yes. Se's my tert so it helps to kickstart me out of the blahs.

Same here. A friend of mine refers to it as my "Seemed like a good idea at the time" phases.
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[storm eyes]

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	Self-destructive? Nope. Exciting? Yes. Se's my tert so it helps to kickstart me out of the blahs.

That excitement is a dangerous feeling for me...
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Turns in me into an instigator.

[Distance]

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	Same here. A friend of mine refers to it as my "Seemed like a good idea at the time" phases. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Ha ha...YES!

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	That excitement is a dangerous feeling for me... To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Turns in me into an instigator.

And this would be a bad thing?
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[timeineternity]

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I sort of get what you mean...I've always found myself a bit compulsive. I think of reckless things to do all the time. Harmful things, extremely dangerous things. For instance, I'm standing on a balcony on a tall building. I think that I could, concievably, jump. I've never done anything to harm myself, but I think of it. Or if I'm holding a knife to slice some fruit, I think, I could easily fall and stab myself on the knife, wouldn't that be a tragedy?

Hrmmm. That seems related to Ne to me, but I then again, I think that sort of thing all the time. I don't mean necessarily about the self-violence
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, but that sort of thought. For instance, (probably for entertainment) I think a lot about what if I ran into this church service, ran up on stage, seized a nearby implement (a microphone, or perhaps a bible) and started beating the pastor over the head. etc. What power one person can have if one merely acts a little weird in the right situation!
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I think my INFP sister thinks about this kind of thing even more than I do. Once I was sitting near her, and she started giggling for no reason. She then explained that she had a thought: "what if I ran downstairs right now [there were guests downstairs] and started shouting at them 'get the hell out of here!!!'". I had rather a laugh at that one.

I guess if this is related to Ne it makes sense for an INTJ to experience it (Ne is a 'shadow function'), but much more so for an INFP.

[shytiger]

Originally Posted by UKobsessed To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I sort of get what you mean...I've always found myself a bit compulsive. I think of reckless things to do all the time. Harmful things, extremely dangerous things. For instance, I'm standing on a balcony on a tall building. I think that I could, concievably, jump. I've never done anything to harm myself, but I think of it. Or if I'm holding a knife to slice some fruit, I think, I could easily fall and stab myself on the knife, wouldn't that be a tragedy?

Everyone has those thoughts.

To the OP, yes, all the time. I saw a psychotherapist once because I thought I had ADHD-PI (the silent ADHD) but I tested negative and he said I was just bored. I'm not really as stimulated by physical excitement as I am by the intellectual excitement of, say, tackling a hard, complex problem. So, I think that the solution is to start to think about how you're going to make your mark on the world. Find a vision for yourself that satisfies that hunger.

[Aklis]

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To the OP, yes, all the time. I saw a psychotherapist once because I thought I had ADHD-PI (the silent ADHD) but I tested negative and he said I was just bored. I'm not really as stimulated by physical excitement as I am by the intellectual excitement of, say, tackling a hard, complex problem. So, I think that the solution is to start to think about how you're going to make your mark on the world. Find a vision for yourself that satisfies that hunger.

That's the problem. At this time in my life, I can't do much other than study, and I either know or do not care about the things that I am studying at the moment. I do, however, have to study them to get ahead in my education (and then get some kind of job). I know that I want to work as some sort of Economics Analyst or Consult, preferrably freelance, but that's not of much use to me at the moment.

I believe it is linked to my Se, though, as the Wikipedia-description states that "Se focuses on the experiences and sensations of the immediate, physical world. With an acute awareness of the present surroundings, it brings relevant facts and details to the forefront and may lead to spontaneous action."

The spontaneous action-bit is exactly what I am talking about. Action without thinking of the consequences.

[UKobsessed]

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Hrmmm. That seems related to Ne to me, but I then again, I think that sort of thing all the time. I don't mean necessarily about the self-violence To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , but that sort of thought. For instance, (probably for entertainment) I think a lot about what if I ran into this church service, ran up on stage, seized a nearby implement (a microphone, or perhaps a bible) and started beating the pastor over the head. etc. What power one person can have if one merely acts a little weird in the right situation! To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I think my INFP sister thinks about this kind of thing even more than I do. Once I was sitting near her, and she started giggling for no reason. She then explained that she had a thought: "what if I ran downstairs right now [there were guests downstairs] and started shouting at them 'get the hell out of here!!!'". I had rather a laugh at that one. I guess if this is related to Ne it makes sense for an INTJ to experience it (Ne is a 'shadow function'), but much more so for an INFP.

Ha! Exactly. I did kind of emphasize the self-violence a bit, but I am not obsessed with hurting myself. As you said about the random urges, I get things like that all of the time. I think of ridiculous things to do to amuse myself.

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Everyone has those thoughts. To the OP, yes, all the time. I saw a psychotherapist once because I thought I had ADHD-PI (the silent ADHD) but I tested negative and he said I was just bored. I'm not really as stimulated by physical excitement as I am by the intellectual excitement of, say, tackling a hard, complex problem. So, I think that the solution is to start to think about how you're going to make your mark on the world. Find a vision for yourself that satisfies that hunger.

Yes, I find that I am a lot less compulsive when I'm focused on a mission that is of real value to me. I didn't mean to come across as self-violent, as I said I've never actually done anything. I just think of all the possibilities of a situation. I used to improvise whole scripts for off the wall events when I was little. I would realize 10 minutes later that I was talking through a situation that was absolutely absurd and had completely lost myself in my daydream.

[nowt]

Being aware of what you are capable is not wrong; death is ever possible--

And if that bores, too, then what will you do?

	Originally Posted by Aklis To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Anyone know what I'm talking about? Is this an INTJ-thing, a maturity-issue (I'm not all that old, mind you!) or is it just me?

[XFire35]

My escapades usually start with "why not?", in retrospect, there were a lot of responses.

[ppu6502]

	Originally Posted by nowt To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Being aware of what you are capable is not wrong; death is ever possible-- And if that bores, too, then what will you do?

Yea, I don't typically do things I'd consider "reckless" - just calculated risks. Plenty of them sound totally reckless when told as a story, but it's not outside my comfort zone.

I don't just go do something when my gut says "this is a terrible idea and you might die"

[True Rune]

I exorcise caution to the point of annoying others.. I believe I have some paranoia though. Anyway, it's probably a root fear rather than boredom. I hope you don't OD and die.

[UKobsessed]

	Originally Posted by nowt To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Being aware of what you are capable is not wrong; death is ever possible--

Yes, I agree. I think of all the possibilities. Some horrible and bloody, some wonderful and good. I find them equally enlightening.

[Tactical Panda]

Yes, although there still seems to be a measure of sense in what I do. At least to me.

[BBC]

Why are you bored? Why haven't you found something to do to occupy your mind?

Im never bored in my own time (long meetings at work can be boring) because I have plenty of things I'm interested in, such as gaming, reading, music, keeping animals.

Being bored is just laziness of the mind.

[Equinox]

The only person I know who gets reckless urges is an INTP, and it's mostly in the name of adventure and not just doing stuff. Like he has sudden urges to spend 30 minutes wading up a river while I get bruised and beaten from falling down as I try to follow him, or to jump down a 15 foot cliff not knowing how we'll get back up, or do other stuff like that. It doesn't make sense because he's supposed to be the type who thinks about stuff and never does it, but instead he has these random impulses to do really stupid things and it's only after I win a stubbornness contest with him and convince him that it's a stupid idea and I'm not doing it that he backs down.

[storm eyes]

	Originally Posted by BBC To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Being bored is just laziness of the mind.

Or lack of stimuli for the mind? Sometimes when a mind is really quick the information is not coming in as quickly as it is being processed and resolved.

[BBC]

	Originally Posted by storm eyes To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Or lack of stimuli for the mind? Sometimes when a mind is really quick the information is not coming in as quickly as it is being processed and resolved.

My own thoughts are usually enough to amuse me, and I've stuffed enough stimuli in by reading about the world and politics to draw upon in slower moments. Unless the OP is about 10 years old it's no excuse.

[storm eyes]

	Originally Posted by BBC To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	My own thoughts are usually enough to amuse me, and I've stuffed enough stimuli in by reading about the world and politics to draw upon in slower moments. Unless the OP is about 10 years old it's no excuse.

Certainly some channeling could be done for the reckless self harm. I don't think the OP is that old. How old are you OP (approx)?

[Strathy]

Oh yes. That is the same reason that I got depression, got into video games or recreational drugs, just because I thought that life is already explored(And that I travel a lot). And since I'm getting older and becoming INTJ purist, the whole "reckless" activities keeps increasing with it.

[storm eyes]

I used to do extreme sports, I think that is how I dealt with my reckless urges, if you could jump off it, fall off it, climb up it or go at speed, I would do it. I was fearless.

[Philanthropist]

I've noticed two things which make xNTJs feel like engaging in destructive behaviour:

1) Boredom (speaking for myself I have a very low threshold for boredom)

and

2) feeling directionless. Using Te to the extent you do, you need goals to work towards in order to feel fulfilled (preferably dozens of them).