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Old 07-03-2008, 02:14 PM   #1
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I understand well that this is an INTJ forum, but threads like this have started caving in recently and therefore I don't feel like its a huge deal if I post something like this...

AND this is the best MBTI thread on the web anyways hehe (nervous jest in attempt to kiss ass..)
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So--I'm seeing this guy and he's an ISFP. I'm an INFP, but for some reason we randomly really hit it off sometimes--so just out of plain curiousity, what sparks the interest of an ISFP? If there are any ISFP's on this board or any experts on the type, I would very much appreciate a response!
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Old 07-03-2008, 08:32 PM   #2
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That's probably the best advice you'll get. NTs (which is the vast majority of this board) usually aren't very close with SFs and definitely don't have the greatest understanding of them. They just don't make sense :D

From the limited experiences I've had, I think ISFPs are drawn to anything new. They like new experiences, new places, new... anything. Many are often drawn to traveling. They don't deal well with repetition and routine and tend to 'live for the moment'.

Hope this helps :o

Oh, and don't let them decorate anything... I guarantee you'll regret it.
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Old 07-08-2008, 05:01 AM   #3
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I once dated an ISFP for a short time and we've had a strange sort of friendship ever since. They seem to like unconventional things and viewpoints, even if they don't quite understand them. I once asked him what he liked about me and he said that it was the "fuck you" aura that I gave off. I was never entirely sure what that meant, but I think he was interpreting my confidence as thus. I'm actually a very nice person.
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Old 07-08-2008, 08:36 PM   #4
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  Originally Posted by theatresk8
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So--I'm seeing this guy and he's an ISFP. I'm an INFP, but for some reason we randomly really hit it off sometimes--so just out of plain curiousity, what sparks the interest of an ISFP? If there are any ISFP's on this board or any experts on the type, I would very much appreciate a response!

Sorry, IMO, ISFP is not smart and is not working hard. In other word, they are ... Why do you like them? I would turn off by the type even she is very pretty except the sex part.

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Old 07-09-2008, 09:50 AM   #5
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Sorry, IMO, ISFP is not smart and is not working hard. In other word, they are ... Why do you like them? I would turn off by the type even she is very pretty except the sex part.

I used to have very little respect for other types. This was primarily due to my beliefs that abstract thinking was all that mattered. Those that didn't value such things were just 'wasting their time' and not being as intelligent as they could be. This all changed about 6 years ago when I first went to university.

I met an ENFP who is now one of my closest friends. He's highly charismatic and struck me immediately as being very intelligent. He was however, a huge social flirt which I just didn't understand. I remember this one time we were out at some restaurant I'd never been to. I'm leafing through the menu trying to figure out what I'm going to order. He was talking with the waiter and just wouldn't shut up. I couldn't believe how much he was talking. I kept looking through the menu trying to 'calculate' which dish would be the best. I then started looking around the restaurant to see if I could see what they specialized in or what looked good etc. I had no idea what to order. Then out of nowhere, my ENFP friend asks the waiter what he would recommend. He recommends something (I forget what) and says that this is by far the best dish. He then says he'll bring us some garlic bread free of charge. This was one of the most important moments in my life :o

Something as simple as asking the waiter what to order completely eluded me; yet my ENFP friend knew to ask intuitively. It was at this point I realized that the world isn't just one big math equation. I'm forced to live with other people and learning to interact with them is something I should do as it just makes everyone's life easier. I also realized that other personality types have a lot of strengths I hadn't considered, specifically in the realm of socializing.

So as far as ISFPs go, will they be good with rational thinking or masterminding plans like us INTJs? Probably not. But there isn't another type that would be more fun to hang around with somewhere we've never been as they have a knack for finding new and exciting things to do.

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Old 07-09-2008, 10:18 AM   #6
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I think my coworker is ISFP. He and I get along well, but I always feel like I have to draw him out of his shell. ME! The shy girl!

That being said, he knows what he likes, what he wants, and how he's going to get/do it. He's very artistically talented (they ARE The Artist type, right?), and he definitely has wanderlust. He travels alone or with a close friend wherever he decides to go.

You probably hit it off because you have I_FP in common. Meaning, we INFPs enjoy exploring new things, too. We just get into the big picture more than they do, so they stop and examine each new detail, soak up each new physical experience (scent, touch, sound, etc.) and absorb it in wonder?
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Old 07-09-2008, 01:45 PM   #7
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I have a very close friend who is married to an INFP for 15 years and has had an awful time with her..... She is lazy, has never offered to get a job (there are no children) and expects him to do everything. She is also afraid of everything: driving, socializing, her own shadow..... You get the picture. The only time she comes to life is when he spends big bucks to take her on an expensive vacation someplace. Other than that she pretends to be sick all the time to get out of having to do ANYTHING. Laziest person on the planet. Remember that down inside all SP's are hedonists and opportunists, even if they are kindly. This goes for the lovely, gentle ISFP. Oh, and she blackmails him too. If you don't do this, then I'll do this!!!! It can be really ugly sometimes. This is another charming SP trait. So while they can be sweet, artistic and sexual, the ISFP can have some VERY nasty traits.
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Old 07-09-2008, 02:31 PM   #8
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I have a very close friend who is married to an INFP for 15 years and has had an awful time with her..... She is lazy, has never offered to get a job (there are no children) and expects him to do everything...

... It can be really ugly sometimes. This is another charming SP trait. So while they can be sweet, artistic and sexual, the ISFP can have some VERY nasty traits.

Wait. Is she INFP, or ISFP? Please clarify. I must defend my type!
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Old 07-09-2008, 07:03 PM   #9
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  Originally Posted by Guido
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I used to have very little respect for other types. This was primarily due to my beliefs that abstract thinking was all that mattered. Those that didn't value such things were just 'wasting their time' and not being as intelligent as they could be. This all changed about 6 years ago when I first went to university.

I met an ENFP who is now one of my closest friends. He's highly charismatic and struck me immediately as being very intelligent. He was however, a huge social flirt which I just didn't understand. I remember this one time we were out at some restaurant I'd never been to. I'm leafing through the menu trying to figure out what I'm going to order. He was talking with the waiter and just wouldn't shut up. I couldn't believe how much he was talking. I kept looking through the menu trying to 'calculate' which dish would be the best. I then started looking around the restaurant to see if I could see what they specialized in or what looked good etc. I had no idea what to order. Then out of nowhere, my ENFP friend asks the waiter what he would recommend. He recommends something (I forget what) and says that this is by far the best dish. He then says he'll bring us some garlic bread free of charge. This was one of the most important moments in my life :o

Something as simple as asking the waiter what to order completely eluded me; yet my ENFP friend knew to ask intuitively. It was at this point I realized that the world isn't just one big math equation. I'm forced to live with other people and learning to interact with them is something I should do as it just makes everyone's life easier. I also realized that other personality types have a lot of strengths I hadn't considered, specifically in the realm of socializing.

So as far as ISFPs go, will they be good with rational thinking or masterminding plans like us INTJs? Probably not. But there isn't another type that would be more fun to hang around with somewhere we've never been as they have a knack for finding new and exciting things to do.

I do think each type has the function in the society. Just don't like dumb + lazy people (My ISFJ boss is dumb but he thinks he is smart., work hard I still could not bear him mainly because he micro-manages me! He does not even know what he is talking about sometimes but he still tells me what to do!). Now, is typical ISFP equal to ... Will leave others to decide!

 

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Old 07-10-2008, 07:00 AM   #10
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One of my closest friends is an ISFP. He's very artistic in a musical sense. What attracts him is probably the same as many guys, initially. Someone mentioned they have a knack for finding new things to do. That is definitely true of my ISFP.
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Old 07-10-2008, 07:30 AM   #11
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She is lazy, has never offered to get a job (there are no children) and expects him to do everything. She is also afraid of everything: driving, socializing, her own shadow..... You get the picture. The only time she comes to life is when he spends big bucks to take her on an expensive vacation someplace. Other than that she pretends to be sick all the time to get out of having to do ANYTHING. Laziest person on the planet.

This is my ex who was/is an ESFJ. As we are at the end of a divorce, she's still done nothing to establish the ability to support her self.

 
Remember that down inside all SP's are hedonists and opportunists, even if they are kindly.

This is too generalizing. Some of us do mature, maybe not to the satisfaction of an INTJ, but then you don't match your own level of expected satisfaction either.

 
Oh, and she blackmails him too. If you don't do this, then I'll do this!!!! It can be really ugly sometimes.

My EFPJ ex did this as well. Once at marriage consoling she asked "how do I make him do things". The consoler replied "you can't MAKE him do things, he has to want to do them". She could never understand that.

 
This is another charming SP trait. So while they can be sweet, artistic and sexual, the ISFP can have some VERY nasty traits.

I have never done this to anyone. I have no desire to control or be controlled.

I am an ESFP, I think the E and I makes little difference. Depending on the maturity level, SP's can be a live for the moment, future be damned hedonist. We do have a tendency to act in the moment without thinking of consequences. When crossed we can carry a deep grudge that is hard if not impossible to right. Once you are on our shit list, it's hard to get off. Of course you have to do a lot to get there in the first place.

We make very loyal friends, we will do anything for any one. We also tend to live by the motto what's yours is yours and what's mine is yours. We tend to be very generous. We hate conflict or criticism.

What interests us? As said, we like new things. Repitition is death to an SP. Most of us I think like "the finer things" of life - a nice bottle of wine, a good dinner. Not sure about an ISFP, but as an ESFP we need social interaction. We like to do things, but with people. Again, not sure how social the ISFP's are compared to us.

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Old 07-10-2008, 07:59 AM   #12
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ISFPs are actually the only Ss I've ever gotten along with well. Two of my great friends are ISFPs, and they can come up with some really crazy ideas sometimes, and make hilarious observations about what's around us.

ISFPs are very artistic, too. I find that they support my efficiency and intelligence with creativity. It's odd how well I get along with them.
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Old 07-10-2008, 10:09 AM   #13
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  Originally Posted by curiousjane
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Wait. Is she INFP, or ISFP? Please clarify. I must defend my type!
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Sorry! I meant ISFP. I know several INFP's and they are very highly motivated, bright and generally fabulous. Comrades-in-arms as well!!!

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Old 07-11-2008, 07:19 PM   #14
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Two of my great friends are ISFPs, and they can come up with some really crazy ideas sometimes, and make hilarious observations about what's around us.

My ISFP friend definitely makes hilarious observations. Yay for ISFPs.

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Old 08-19-2008, 02:46 AM   #15
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My ISFP friend definitely makes hilarious observations. Yay for ISFPs.

My ESFJ, ISTP, INxx & ISTJ pals say that about me. I always have a slight internal battle about whether to make the statements or not and, most of the time, most people crack up. My ISFp mom is the same way.

p.s. I LOVE sarcasm & sarcastic people. Is this an IFSp thing?

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Old 08-19-2008, 07:15 AM   #16
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My ESFJ, ISTP, INxx & ISTJ pals say that about me. I always have a slight internal battle about whether to make the statements or not and, most of the time, most people crack up. My ISFp mom is the same way.

p.s. I LOVE sarcasm & sarcastic people. Is this an IFSp thing?

I wondered, how come there is only one isfp commenting? Did the isfp committee sent you here? lol. I would, like what the Isfp has to say.

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Old 08-20-2008, 06:02 AM   #17
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  Originally Posted by theatresk8
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I understand well that this is an INTJ forum, but threads like this have started caving in recently and therefore I don't feel like its a huge deal if I post something like this...

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So--I'm seeing this guy and he's an ISFP. I'm an INFP, but for some reason we randomly really hit it off sometimes--so just out of plain curiousity, what sparks the interest of an ISFP? If there are any ISFP's on this board or any experts on the type, I would very much appreciate a response!

Come up with crazy, eccentric new things to do and places to see! A lot of them!

Be spontaneous! But don't force it if that's not you.

When he's spontaneous and/or makes off-the-cuff weird statements, don't look at him like he escaped the loony bin. Don't judge him.

Don't order him to do stuff. Ask him. I LOVE to feel like I'm doing something... anything, out of my own accord; even when I'm doing it for someone else.

Don't strike down his new crazy ideas. But do (tactfully) keep him grounded.





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I wondered, how come there is only one isfp commenting? Did the isfp committee sent you here? lol. I would, like what the Isfp has to say.

I was the only one with access to a computer; the rest of us are off Vicuna-shearing in the Andes.

 

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Old 08-20-2008, 10:55 AM   #18
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I have a best-friend who is ISFP. We have exactly the same sort of humour, laughing at things wich other people would consider as silly and childish. Atm we have kept laughing at little children that makes weird noises, we then imagining what the noises sounds like in other contexts... for examples a child that cries sounds like retarded cow we saw a while ago when walking at the farm.

He really is hilarious =)

He helps me get the extraverted sensing a little more active to when punching me all the time
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:59 AM   #19
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You've come to an INTJ forum, and you're going to get an INTJ opinion:

ISFP: They're like mindless robots programmed to be nice to everybody, run from conflict like the plague, seek out new things like an addiction, and toss out those things aside like toys when they get bored (people as well). They're like spoiled 3 year old children. They're stupidly random and make no sense whatsoever. They get into trouble with their mindless behavior, and then blame you of it. They're also quite fond of drama and playing with people feelings, in the event they do not have anything else 'interesting' in their own eyes to do. They think they're alive because they live "on the moment", which to them means jumping from experience to experience, causing havoc by not accepting responsibility for their own actions, and leaving wreckages behind for other people to fix. They do not stop for a minute to realize the part they play in conflicts or to even extract some conclusions from those experiences. They do not learn. If that's being alive I'd much rather be dead.

I do not intend to flame, I'm just stating my own (I have to admit, negative) experience of unhealthy ISFPs.

 

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Old 12-04-2008, 07:43 PM   #20
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ISFP: They're like mindless robots programmed to be nice to everybody, run from conflict like the plague, seek out new things like an addiction, and toss out those things aside like toys when they get bored (people as well). They're like spoiled 3 year old children. They're stupidly random and make no sense whatsoever. They get into trouble with their mindless behavior, and then blame you of it. They're also quite fond of drama and playing with people feelings, in the event they do not have anything else 'interesting' in their own eyes to do. They think they're alive because they live "on the moment", which to them means jumping from experience to experience, causing havoc by not accepting responsibility for their own actions, and leaving wreckages behind for other people to fix. They do not stop for a minute to realize the part they play in conflicts or to even extract some conclusions from those experiences. They do not learn. If that's being alive I'd much rather be dead.

I was married to an ISFP, and it ended very badly. She was definitely the epitome of "The Artist", as she was an artist. I am inclined to agree with all of the above comments. Every last one of them reminds me of my ex.
That said, I'm sure a well developed ISFP could be an amazing person to spend time with, especially for an INTJ. Their spontaneity and love for excitement can potentially balance out the INTJ.

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Old 12-05-2008, 09:28 AM   #21
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I'm married to an ISFP. She's not an artistic type. She's perpetually six years old, loves animals more than human beings, and is gentle and sweet. She hates to apply herself, but she's very good at what she does if she takes the time to actually study. She always lives in the 'now', and I live in the 'future'. Oddly, she's a workaholic and will schedule herself 50 hours a week in two jobs and she doesn't have any hobbies.
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Old 12-06-2008, 10:25 PM   #22
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I'm not sure I know any ISFPs. I think a couple of my sister's friends may be ISFP. Are they the "emo" types?

Yeah, Emos and INTJs don't really hang out much... I don't have a problem with them or anything I just think there is some indifference between the two. Two introverts, that, other than being introverted, are totally different... we won't clash paths much.
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Old 12-06-2008, 10:49 PM   #23
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I have two ISFP friends. They are lovely people but not really going anywhere fast. They both seem to live in a dream land, are always annoyingly nice, and really do not appear to have any ambition at all to achieve anything in life. One of them seems to be afraid to get out of her comfort zone (20 and has never learned to drive). They also seem really out-of-touch with reality most of the time. But they are really lovely! I just find both of them incredibly dull with not alot to say.

On the other hand, my ESFP friend is my best mate and we get along really really well. So I think some things in relationships are influnced by personality type, but some things are based on other things like shared experiances and values.

I don't usually find SFs to be particulary interesting to be around though. The exception being my best mate.
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