[bobabrowncoat]

I've been thinking about this a little bit. My father is a pastor. That meant he visited a lot of people on death beds and preached a lot of funerals. I was often with him when he went to visit and also attended almost all the services. I suppose I've seen so much of it, I ended up making my peace with death very early in my life.

Does anyone else have a similar experience?

[RBM]

	Originally Posted by peppersasaen
	Enough for your entire life to flashback. You just become very reflective. It's a very short time to reflect on the past 22 years. It kind of played like a film

	If I told my friends, they would be surprised I even have a near-death experience.

Are these two quotes referring to the same instance ? Or are they each separate from each other ?

I'm trying to understand your definition of NDE.

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	Originally Posted by bobabrowncoat To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I've been thinking about this a little bit. My father is a pastor. That meant he visited a lot of people on death beds and preached a lot of funerals. I was often with him when he went to visit and also attended almost all the services. I suppose I've seen so much of it, I ended up making my peace with death very early in my life. Does anyone else have a similar experience?

I'm not sure if this would be classed as similar or not, but I've made peace with the mortality of this biological entity called 'RBM', as I'm aware that 'death' transitions to a non-physical existence.

[davai]

	Originally Posted by bobabrowncoat To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I've been thinking about this a little bit. My father is a pastor. That meant he visited a lot of people on death beds and preached a lot of funerals. I was often with him when he went to visit and also attended almost all the services. I suppose I've seen so much of it, I ended up making my peace with death very early in my life. Does anyone else have a similar experience?

A little, i was never repelled by or saddened by death from an early age. I remember when my gran died i was about 11 maybe and people around me were in tears and so on, but i didn't really feel emotional about it at all, i didn't cry either and i felt a little guilty and confused because it was like i should have been feeling more emotional to show to them i cared. It wasn't that i didn't care, i guess i just didn't feel comfortable expressing emotion in public. I still don't really.

[WindUp]

I hope I'll feel like I conquered life.


Supposedly people release DMT in their body when they die. If death is anything like a DMT trip, then I suppose I'd become one with my subconscious.

[RBM]

Originally Posted by davai To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

A little, i was never repelled by or saddened by death from an early age. I remember when my gran died i was about 11 maybe and people around me were in tears and so on, but i didn't really feel emotional about it at all, i didn't cry either and i felt a little guilty and confused because it was like i should have been feeling more emotional to show to them i cared. It wasn't that i didn't care, i guess i just didn't feel comfortable expressing emotion in public. I still don't really.

That lack of emotion about death was pretty much active in my case till about '09. It sure can be a confusing time under those conditions.

When my father passed in '91 and mom passed in '99 or so, I didn't have near the knowledge to effectively interact in such circumstances.

[davai]

	Originally Posted by RBM To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	That lack of emotion about death was pretty much active in my case till about '09. It sure can be a confusing time under those conditions. When my father passed in '91 and mom passed in '99 or so, I didn't have near the knowledge to effectively interact in such circumstances.

So you're saying you're more emotional about death now? As in something you've learnt over time?

[RBM]

	Originally Posted by davai To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	So you're saying you're more emotional about death now? As in something you've learnt over time?

Whoops, my internals disrupted ...

My emotional reaction was subdued externally, internally is was neutral, in that I was indecisive about what to feel.

Post '09, my emotional reaction would be not subdued in the least, assuming the social constrains allowed it; my attitude now is 'Party ! another life lived !'

Internally speaking, I know exactly what I think and how I feel about what I think.

[Kisai]

"I can't die, I'm too busy.." *THUD*

[bathar]

"Who's coming with me?" or "Who can I bring with me?"

[RBM]

	Originally Posted by bathar To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	"Who's coming with me?" or "Who can I bring with me?"

From all I've read, it should be "Who's already ahead of me ?":-)

[davai]

	Originally Posted by RBM To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Post '09, my emotional reaction would be not subdued in the least, assuming the social constrains allowed it; my attitude now is 'Party ! another life lived !'

If i'm not mistaken there's certain cultures that celebrate death like this. It's interesting, i've never really been able to show my mourning, i internalize it all. I had a sense as a kid that death was significant but in a different way than how it's viewed in society...i didn't believe the Christian view, i didn't believe the usual atheist view either, and the whole process of mourning just seemed weird to me. When i die though i think it'd be cool if people partied in my name. Everyone gets drunk, has a few smokes, does a few lines of my ashes... and so on.

What happened in 09 by the way, if it's not too personal?

[RBM]

Originally Posted by davai To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

If i'm not mistaken there's certain cultures that celebrate death like this. It's interesting, i've never really been able to show my mourning, i internalize it all. I had a sense as a kid that death was significant but in a different way than how it's viewed in society...i didn't believe the Christian view, i didn't believe the usual atheist view either, and the whole process of mourning just seemed weird to me. When i die though i think it'd be cool if people partied in my name. Everyone gets drunk, has a few smokes, does a few lines of my ashes... and so on.

As I understand NOW, the end of one life is the start of another. Since evolution of the Larger Consciousness System occurs through the evolution of each individual life, progress happens !

	What happened in 09 by the way, if it's not too personal?

Hahaha, you know that thread I mentioned in Dodeca's thread ? As a result of it the OP and I exchanged some emails and at one point he strongly suggested I read the TOE authors work. I did and a lifetime collection of pieces fell into place.

That's all ;-)

[AGHRMS]

"So... What next?"

I believe that sums it up.

[Tequila]

Originally Posted by davai To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

If i'm not mistaken there's certain cultures that celebrate death like this. It's interesting, i've never really been able to show my mourning, i internalize it all. I had a sense as a kid that death was significant but in a different way than how it's viewed in society...i didn't believe the Christian view, i didn't believe the usual atheist view either, and the whole process of mourning just seemed weird to me. When i die though i think it'd be cool if people partied in my name. Everyone gets drunk, has a few smokes, does a few lines of my ashes... and so on.

Agree! I had this thought when I was in my early teens after watching on television how some cultures celebrate death with joy and compared it with the taoist culture which must include tears (fake it if you must) to show the deceased and visitors how much s/he is loved. The noise and depressing funeral music to enhance the mood for more sorrowful tears? For my funeral, I wish only my loved ones to be there and not a grand send off. Simple, easy, quick and cost saving.

[Crazyblue]

Not eager to die, but not regretful if it is a possibility in the near future. After all, I haven't been alive for millions and billions of years before I was born. Perhaps some pieces of me were alive, but not what we recognize as 'me.'

[sevans]

I'm pretty sure I'll be giddy as a school girl. I've been hoping I'd die for at least 5 years if not 6.

[g20]

	Originally Posted by bobabrowncoat To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I've been thinking about this a little bit. My father is a pastor. That meant he visited a lot of people on death beds and preached a lot of funerals. I was often with him when he went to visit and also attended almost all the services. I suppose I've seen so much of it, I ended up making my peace with death very early in my life. Does anyone else have a similar experience?

also a PK. My views on death were mostly developed after becoming an atheist, at which point death was no longer something to be feared.

[phoboser]

Assuming I have time to reflect...

If I was enjoying my life at the time, then anger, sadness, regrets, and fear would be subdued by looking forward to enjoying the last moments.

If not, then anger, sadness, regrets, fear.

[BlackMita]

"Holy shit this hurts!"

or

"I hope this works."

[Andre20]

Pondering the next stage. Death is just one of those things in life that are absolute, so I have no fear for it.

[Purgatid]

When I went into surgery (because of an anomaly inside the head (laughter ensues)), I was convinced I would die. I had misunderstood the doctor, thinking there was only something like 10% chance I'd make it (it's only 10% chance to make it without any consequences. I have the consequences, and they're not very bad at all. Annoying perhaps). So when I was lying there on what I thought was my death bed, all I felt was gratitude. I mean, I don't believe in a soul, nor in an afterlife. This is it boys and girls, it's this one life, and no more. Still, I felt gratitude. That my family loved me, that I had experienced a lot of things. I didn't feel any regret per definition, but I did have thoughts of "I should perhaps had..." I wouldn't call it regret, they were more like... Mm... Statements. When the doctor told me the news that I misunderstood, I thought "well it had to end at some point." Because the news was delivered so clinically, that I didn't think of it as something horrendous.

I had a lot of ideas about what I would be feeling. But those emotions just didn't pop up. I don't know what I'll be feeling when it really happens, but I imagine it's going to be the same. Like another poster wrote on this thread - I don't fear dying. Dying has no consequence as far as I understand. I fear pain, I fear the sensation of life slipping away, perhaps. But not death in itself.

[rdfsc]

Well, I had a dream where I was shot once and as I was dying I saw my blood etc and the only thought going through my mind was "oh so this is what everybody sees when they die.

As an intj I think I would be more fasinated feeling my body going through the death experience until my brain quit functioning at the same time wondering what will happen next.

So the question is will all us introverts go to heaven, hell or be reincarnated (depending on your religious view) or would you stay in limbo or haunt a house? Would you as an introvert cross over or stick around?

Personally, If given a choice I would not cross over and stick around haunting houses or what have you. In my opinion it is the ultimate introvert dream, your hanging around with a bunch of people who can't see you. Don't need to interact with them and when you need the place all to yourself you can just move things around and they'd eventually leave.

Maybe that's why there are haunted houses, it the 2-3% of us intj who just want our personal time and now we have a chance to get it.

[peppermint]

I'll finally think of the perfect comeback.

[Cooper]

The last two times I thought I was going to be killed, what crossed my mind was, "Shit...this is going to hurt." No joke...that was what my thoughts were.

[RBM]

	Originally Posted by rdfsc
	So the question is will all us introverts go to heaven, hell or be reincarnated (depending on your religious view) ...

Reincarnation is also a non-orthodox scientific view sans religion. It's presently found in the consciousness research literature.