As if we didn't have enough international political trouble...

**themuzicman** · 08-10-2011, 06:44 AM

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In part of Barack Obama’s “smart power” diplomacy that he promised would restore our standing with American allies, the Obama administration sided with Argentina in demanding that the UK open negotiations over the status of the Falkland Islands, joining such stalwart American allies as Nicaragua and Venezuela. The OAS declaration even uses the Argentinian name for the islands, a particular insult

Yeah, let's get after them brits and their sovereignty...

Really?

stasis · 08-10-2011, 06:47 AM

Do you really think the diplomatic relationship between the United States and the UK is going to be in any way imperiled by this? What "trouble" do you predict?

**zibber** · 08-10-2011, 06:53 AM

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	To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Yeah, let's get after them brits and their sovereignty... Really?

For some reason I think you'd be equally offended if the USA followed British policy without question.

**themuzicman** · 08-10-2011, 06:58 AM

	Originally Posted by stasis To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Do you really think the diplomatic relationship between the United States and the UK is going to be in any way imperiled by this? What "trouble" do you predict?

How many times can you poke an enemy in the eye over sensitive issues before you start to fray the relationship?

And this one is a particularly sensitive one. Certain to cause some level of fraying.

stasis · 08-10-2011, 07:12 AM

	Originally Posted by themuzicman To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	How many times can you poke an enemy in the eye over sensitive issues before you start to fray the relationship?

Talks aren't capitulations. As I understand it there's currently no dialogue between the British government and nearby South America, creating some degree of economic isolation. Also, according to
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, what your blog link calls the "Argentinian name" for the islands and a "particular insult" is actually just the name of the island in Spanish. According to
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the statement occurred at a conference in El Salvador. You'll note that's a Spanish speaking country.

You're really reaching here. If this is the best you can do, you can probably look forward to four more years of Obama.

**JTG** · 08-10-2011, 07:18 AM

I think the name of the website in the OP is especially appropriate

larkin · 08-10-2011, 07:30 AM

Publicly stated positions on sensitive, multiparty diplomatic talks probably have little bearing on the reality of the process, even with what's visible in the diplomatic community. I wonder if a blogger who has absolutely zero insight into the process is the best person to comment on them?

That said, the "OAS" isn't "Hugo Chavez", no matter how reductive Fox News tries to be...it's the Organization of the American States, it represents all Latin American countries, it's the primary forum for multiparty cooperation and peaceful resolution in the hemisphere and is an essential partner in diplomacy to the U.S. and the UK. The UK has permanent observer status, certainly knew this was coming and probably worked with the OAS directly on the issue.

In short: I don't think Ed Morrissey has a fucking clue what he's talking about.

stasis · 08-10-2011, 07:40 AM

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	That said, the "OAS" isn't "Hugo Chavez", no matter how reductive Fox News tries to be...

I like the way the Fox News article captions its embedded photograph with "Argentina's President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner smiles during a news conference in Mexico City May 30" even though the timeline they give has the salient events occurring in June and then last Tuesday in El Salvador. Nice shot of the Mexican flag in the background too.

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larkin Core Member [144%] MBTI: ENxP Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 5,772	Publicly stated positions on sensitive, multiparty diplomatic talks probably have little bearing on the reality of the process, even with what's visible in the diplomatic community. I wonder if a blogger who has absolutely zero insight into the process is the best person to comment on them? That said, the "OAS" isn't "Hugo Chavez", no matter how reductive Fox News tries to be...it's the Organization of the American States, it represents all Latin American countries, it's the primary forum for multiparty cooperation and peaceful resolution in the hemisphere and is an essential partner in diplomacy to the U.S. and the UK. The UK has permanent observer status, certainly knew this was coming and probably worked with the OAS directly on the issue. In short: I don't think Ed Morrissey has a fucking clue what he's talking about.
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