[o0Levitikuz0o]

Originally Posted by JTG To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I think PSN had people's credit information stored. When Sony was hacked, a lot of damage could have ensued. A breach of something like that is a bigger deal (imo) than anything that could happen to facebook. If facebook takes a shit, that's really only bad for facebook as far as i can tell. Boo-hoo, the biggest advertising firm on the net has some issues for a day or two and then gets straightened out. It's not like the private info on facebook's servers isn't already being handed out

And that is exactly why Anonymous is going to "kill" FB.

[Kisai]

Originally Posted by JTG To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

If we're talking about protests and the like, then yeah, but security breaches are something else entirely. To give a date like that (targeting a company with as much money as facebook) pretty much shoots their plans out of the sky, unless they've already got what they need to make it happen. Giving a target time to tighten security is foolish, unless they're just hoping to make facebook scramble and burn a lot of money fixing potential weak points.

A public announcement gives time for disgruntled employees or ex-employees of Facebook to join the movement. Insiders with information are the people capable of causing the most damage. They know old root passwords, where the safe with the backups is, have access to the NOCs, etc.

[JTG]

I guess that's true. I hadn't considered that possibility

[Homeostasis]

It'll be interesting to see if they can pull it off.

I guess if facebook goes down, my family out of state will actually have to call me *gasp*

[Malkavia]

It was blown out of proportion and wasn't supposed to go like this:

The group planned a two-pronged approach: They would 1) urge Facebook users to delete their profiles on November 5th as protest and 2) develop their own, privacy-friendly social networking alternative to Facebook. But in Mid-July Speakeasy and his buddies got bored of Operation Facebook and decided to shut it down. They turned the early code for their social network over to another group, Anonplus, and that, they thought, was that. But they forgot to clean up after themselves, and the abandoned scraps of Operation Facebook became fodder for rumors of a spectacular attack against Zuckerberg's baby. See, the Operation Facebook kids had started a crowdsourced document to plan their protest; when they disbanded, everything was deleted from the document except for a single line warning Facebook that it would "never forget" November 5th—the date that had been floated for the mass account deactivation. The chat room was left, empty except for a link to this cryptic threat. Eventually some Anons stumbled on the empty room and rumors started circulating about Operation Facebook. Speculation ranged from physical attacks on Facebook's server to some newly-discovered exploit that would bring the site crashing to its knees. Someone made a video about this new, destructive Operation Facebook—Speakeasy says they don't know who—media outlets picked up the video, which now has more than a million views. Now Facebook is slated to be destroyed by year's end. Speakeasy is boggled by how the failed protest has spiraled out of control. "The whole thing is a massive clusterfuck and i feel responsible, so can someone sort that shit out?" he implores in his Pastebin document. "An attack on Facebook would be ridiculous," he explained in our chat. "Even if it succeeded, Facebook has a lot of users, and we want to help people, not hurt them."

Shows what happens when you have such a decentralized and cell-based organization. Things can get out of hand quickly.


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(I know, its from the Gawker. Don't laugh)

Also for everyone saying "aw yeah Anon is going to destory facebook because it stupid!"

Wrong. Its because of privacy issues.

[NovXI]

I'm okay with this.

[LaoTzu]

	"Your medium of communication you all so dearly adore will be destroyed."

Thanks for deciding this for me.


If you need me, I'll be playing Tetris Battle.

[AGHRMS]

I'm starting to regret leaving now...

[Sphinx]

Anonymous is a threat to the legitimacy of the political institution - political power-base.

I cannot accept such anarchic behavior which threatens, ideologically speaking, the fabric of law & order.

In my perspective, Anonymous is nothing than a group of criminals - and criminals must be legally punished and imprisoned.

[JTG]

The Anon vs Govt battle seems a little dystopian to me, at least in theory. On one side, you have the government, hiding its actions from the general population, and on the other, you have a band of vigilantes bent on shedding light on the shady dealings of the powers that be.

Of course, that may be romanticizing it a little bit

[Sphinx]

Are you comfortable in your current society? If so, do not support vigilante groups which will cause a disturbance in the status quo.

Virtually all governments hide things from their civilian population.

[Distance]

While I personally can't stand facebook and don't see the purpose beyond another attention getting device, this type of cyber-penis measuring by hackers, appears to be just as, if not more immature.

As if people aren't aware that facebook harvests personal information. There was enough of a stink a couple of years ago over facebook owning all rights to personal information supplied.

So in their misguided attempt to cyber piss all over facebook for whatever their motivations, hacking facebook is only punishing millions of innocent people. And it also provides a pathway and encouragement to others, to access millions of peoples' private and personal information.

If anything, these hackers are doing what people do on facebook.

"See what i can do, imma attention whore".

[mieu]

So they're going a step beyond DDOSing servers now? Or is that basically what they're going to do here...

For them to 'kill' Facebook they'd have to somehow corrupt the data on all of their servers, including back-ups, cold sites, and whatever other disaster recovery Facebook has...and also freeze their accounts so that they can't just throw money at the problem.

[JTG]

	Originally Posted by Sphinx To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Are you comfortable in your current society?

No. I'm not.

While i don't agree with everything anonymous has done, i am pleased with the role they're filling

[Quito]

> anon succeeds. facebook dead. rejoice!
> everyone just moves to google+
> same deal

lol. And that's even if they succeed, which is unlikely. I'd sure like to see it happen though, shake things up. I suppose it's the principle of it, though.

[kikimora]

I think a 3 year old child could probably hack Facebook - I think its code was written by a pack of dyslexic baboons. So. Whatever, can't wait.

[JTG]

Remember, guys, that Malkavia pointed out that this was an aborted plan followed by a misunderstanding.

See post #30 in this thread

[nacht]

	Originally Posted by kikimora To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I think a 3 year old child could probably hack Facebook - I think its code was written by a pack of dyslexic baboons. So. Whatever, can't wait.

…and you think this why?

[Distance]

Regardless, these people are a bunch of cyber-terrorists. Wonder how soon it will be before blackmail for money or other valuable commodities begins?

[Asocialkat]

This is likely to be a hoax (from what I read a week ago). In the past, Anon has announced it will target an organization, but that announcement proceeds the attack by only a day or two. Never has it offered an announcement several months before an attack.

In any case, I have mixed feelings about the group (and LulzSec). I'll admit that part of me squeals with glee when they take down some people/organizations. They do some good work sometimes (taking down child predators etc), but they also hack whoever pisses them off just because they can. As such, I can't truly approve of them. They have no real mission. They appear to just trump up a reason to hack people/organizations (because they like to hack). That is not an attitude that I can support. They'll only get more bold and less reasonable as time goes on.

[thod]

I guess you lot, being mostly Americans, can be forgiven for not figuring out the significance. Anonymous use the Guy Fawkes mask from the movie "V for Vendetta"


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Guy Fawkes night is celebrated in the UK with bonfires and fireworks. The date is November 5th.

[kikimora]

Yes but what does Facebook have to do with Parliament? :P

nacht - because it errors all the time, which makes me think that when they do their constant stupid updates they don't clean up after themselves. the site is also disorganized and poorly constructed. i have not seen the code itself, no, but i'm not impressed by what its been used to make. and yea, i know justin timberlake wrote it at harvard or whatever, but im still not impressed...

[Malkavia]

Originally Posted by kikimora To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Yes but what does Facebook have to do with Parliament? :P nacht - because it errors all the time, which makes me think that when they do their constant stupid updates they don't clean up after themselves. the site is also disorganized and poorly constructed. i have not seen the code itself, no, but i'm not impressed by what its been used to make. and yea, i know justin timberlake wrote it at harvard or whatever, but im still not impressed...

Strange you aren't impressed with a company worth 50 billion dollars...

I guess you have something more valuable? Right?

EDIT- Also, thank you JTG for referring to my post.

This topic can move towards a discussion of Anonymous in general but the actual attack is no longer relevant. If you would actually read posts before you post you would know this.

[NovXI]

	Originally Posted by Quito To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	> anon succeeds. facebook dead. rejoice! > everyone just moves to google+ > same deal lol. And that's even if they succeed, which is unlikely. I'd sure like to see it happen though, shake things up. I suppose it's the principle of it, though.

I've always thought Google were at least a little transparent with what they're doing, they offer their APIs and source codes to compete and contribute. Their motto is "don't be evil" after all.

[nacht]

	Originally Posted by kikimora To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	nacht - because it errors all the time,

Not a reflection of much given the nature of web apps, certainly not an indicator of security.

	which makes me think that when they do their constant stupid updates they don't clean up after themselves.

I have no idea where you are getting this from whatsoever, given that it is impossible for you to have a different front end client than their backend client.

	the site is also disorganized and poorly constructed.

Visual aesthetics mean very little from the standpoint of security.

	i have not seen the code itself, no, but i'm not impressed by what its been used to make.

So, you believe it could be hacked by a three year old because you don't like the visual aesthetics and you find that in your specific configuration and use that it is buggy?

	and yea, i know justin timberlake wrote it at harvard or whatever, but im still not impressed...

Mark Zuckerberg, actually, though I don't know that much of his original code remains given the length of time it has been.