How to survive in this type of world with "the public"!

**MrPrestige** · 07-28-2011, 11:16 AM

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This is amazing - it 'woke' me up!

**Moniker9** · 07-29-2011, 10:32 AM

Maybe you could single out a few specific posts, perhaps post the highlights here.

**MrPrestige** · 07-29-2011, 12:05 PM

Ok firstly this 'woke' me up

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Most of the posts refer to the same things but this is also good
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It's best to click 'top posts' and browse through them because each one may have a different effect, then you may look at things in a different way! But they are all beneficial.
Gracias

**Malkavia** · 07-29-2011, 12:18 PM

INFP anyone?
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Its a good resource site. I like it.

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however, I dont really get the title of this thread.

**MrPrestige** · 07-29-2011, 12:26 PM

Now you mentioned it doesn't seem right- maybe I should have put 'how to wake up and change your life'. But after you understand whats being mentioned in the posts you look at everyone else like the public and you don't seem like your part of them!

ManWithNoName · 07-29-2011, 12:55 PM

Yep, an INFP for sure.

Although I agree with much he is saying he seems to push the whole 'stop being sheeple' 'awake from society' message a bit to much. I can only read so much of it before it begins to grate on me. He seems to be all about breaking free and finding one's inner self and yet he never actually really states what that is. If you cannot state what you're inner self is, who you are and what you stand for, how have you actually developed and inner self?

I also find some of this thinking a bit sloppy with an emphasis on feeling and what he thinks is right than trying to find or reason out objective truth to live by. I don't find there to be a whole lot of depth to a lot of his stuff. It's like he had some insight but in grasping it forgot to actually really think about it and reflect upon it to see how valid or invalid it was and to determine the extent of it's truth.

To me if you want true philosophical insight, not this watered down self help stuff, read some real philosophy where they really take ideas out to see how far they will go and test things to their limits.

He reminds me of one of those annoying liberal arts students who decides to travel to South Asia or something to 'find themself' and ends up just going on trip after trip after trip. I know a few people like this. They tend to think they're really deep because of it but half the stuff they go on about I'm like, you really just figured that out now? To me their behavior is more about rebelling against conformity and society in an attempt to be different than actually developing depth through testing them-self through what life throws at them. To me their constant travelling seems too akin to fleeing: They don't know who they are, they just know what they don't want to be and have mistaken this, this repulsion of society, for actual depth and actual character. I feel he has made a grave mistake. You aren't defined by what you're not. You're defined by what you are.
If they actual knew who they where they'd have actual goals and seek to shape the world instead of being continually shaped by it though continual travelling and searching.

**MrPrestige** · 07-29-2011, 02:24 PM

So if your saying the way he is trying to define getting to know your inner self ( he's completely missing the point? ) what Philosophical insight can I read that can give me a better understanding? I have read various books and posts that relate to what he is saying. So I don't know what I am missing.

**Malkavia** · 07-29-2011, 02:33 PM

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	Yep, an INFP for sure. snip

I agree that its definitely a certain type of "find yourself" that a lot of young people who are searching for a purpose get into. I dont think its wrong, at least not for everyone.

It screams XNFP. There are not specific examples, you just "go with the flow and see where life takes you and you find yourself then everything is ok." I'm sure there are multiple articles that make of this on sites such as stuffwhitepeople.com

I think its a great cultural study. This is a specific blowback from the previous generation.

I don't its sustainable, however. People have to learn to find purpose and happiness with their lives without being burdens on others and traveling the world.

I think this site is good if you take certain parts out of it. Using it as a whole can be disastrous in some cases.

**Asocialkat** · 07-30-2011, 01:25 AM

Strangely enough, some people don't learn well from books. It's easy for us to forget that.

**sircockburn** · 07-30-2011, 01:47 AM

WTF is that granola shit?

Lawl. I'll email this to my adoptive father. He's the only person I know who's seriously into this kind of shit.

**thod** · 07-30-2011, 02:22 AM

Clearly epiphanies are a mental phenomena. I am not sure if they are a disorder. Some people seem to have them all the time. Closest I get is after smoking weed. The rest of the time I am flat, just me, being me. It could well be at the root of religiosity.

07-28-2011, 11:16 AM	#1
MrPrestige New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 38	To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. This is amazing - it 'woke' me up!
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07-29-2011, 10:32 AM	#2
Moniker9 Member [18%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 725	Maybe you could single out a few specific posts, perhaps post the highlights here.
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07-29-2011, 12:05 PM	#3
MrPrestige New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 38	Ok firstly this 'woke' me up To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ---------- Post added 07-29-2011 at 08:07 PM ---------- Most of the posts refer to the same things but this is also good To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ---------- Post added 07-29-2011 at 08:09 PM ---------- It's best to click 'top posts' and browse through them because each one may have a different effect, then you may look at things in a different way! But they are all beneficial. Gracias
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07-29-2011, 12:18 PM	#4
Malkavia Core Member [235%] MBTI: ENXP Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9,427	INFP anyone? To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Its a good resource site. I like it. ---------- Post added 07-29-2011 at 02:19 PM ---------- however, I dont really get the title of this thread.
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07-29-2011, 12:26 PM	#5
MrPrestige New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 38	Now you mentioned it doesn't seem right- maybe I should have put 'how to wake up and change your life'. But after you understand whats being mentioned in the posts you look at everyone else like the public and you don't seem like your part of them!
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07-29-2011, 12:55 PM	#6
ManWithNoName Core Member [201%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 8,078	Yep, an INFP for sure. Although I agree with much he is saying he seems to push the whole 'stop being sheeple' 'awake from society' message a bit to much. I can only read so much of it before it begins to grate on me. He seems to be all about breaking free and finding one's inner self and yet he never actually really states what that is. If you cannot state what you're inner self is, who you are and what you stand for, how have you actually developed and inner self? I also find some of this thinking a bit sloppy with an emphasis on feeling and what he thinks is right than trying to find or reason out objective truth to live by. I don't find there to be a whole lot of depth to a lot of his stuff. It's like he had some insight but in grasping it forgot to actually really think about it and reflect upon it to see how valid or invalid it was and to determine the extent of it's truth. To me if you want true philosophical insight, not this watered down self help stuff, read some real philosophy where they really take ideas out to see how far they will go and test things to their limits. He reminds me of one of those annoying liberal arts students who decides to travel to South Asia or something to 'find themself' and ends up just going on trip after trip after trip. I know a few people like this. They tend to think they're really deep because of it but half the stuff they go on about I'm like, you really just figured that out now? To me their behavior is more about rebelling against conformity and society in an attempt to be different than actually developing depth through testing them-self through what life throws at them. To me their constant travelling seems too akin to fleeing: They don't know who they are, they just know what they don't want to be and have mistaken this, this repulsion of society, for actual depth and actual character. I feel he has made a grave mistake. You aren't defined by what you're not. You're defined by what you are. If they actual knew who they where they'd have actual goals and seek to shape the world instead of being continually shaped by it though continual travelling and searching.
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07-29-2011, 02:24 PM	#7
MrPrestige New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 38	So if your saying the way he is trying to define getting to know your inner self ( he's completely missing the point? ) what Philosophical insight can I read that can give me a better understanding? I have read various books and posts that relate to what he is saying. So I don't know what I am missing.
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07-30-2011, 01:25 AM	#9
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07-30-2011, 01:47 AM	#10
sircockburn Veteran Member [79%] MBTI: ENTP Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,170	WTF is that granola shit? Lawl. I'll email this to my adoptive father. He's the only person I know who's seriously into this kind of shit.
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07-30-2011, 02:22 AM	#11
thod Core Member [162%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 6,493	Clearly epiphanies are a mental phenomena. I am not sure if they are a disorder. Some people seem to have them all the time. Closest I get is after smoking weed. The rest of the time I am flat, just me, being me. It could well be at the root of religiosity.
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