Rationals and Reproduction

**benr3600** · 06-25-2011, 01:44 AM

What is your situation regarding children? Please only NTs vote. Discussion is open, though.

Edit: if you have children, please vote for the age group in which you started to have them, not how old you are now. Mods feel free to modify the "have children" options to "had children at xx-xx"

**Beric** · 06-25-2011, 01:50 AM

20. Definitely want to have kids and a family someday.

**DKnife** · 06-25-2011, 02:00 AM

36 not married, no kids. Would like to be but I can't see it happening.

**Nemesis** · 06-25-2011, 02:37 AM

28, no wife or kids... no desire for either.

**benr3600** · 06-25-2011, 02:51 AM

I want to have children and a wife at some point, but I have already accepted the fact that I may live out my life with neither, if I can not find a wife to meet my (unfortunately) somewhat high standards.

**Rationality** · 06-25-2011, 02:57 AM

I'm 28. I've never particularly wanted children and there must be something a bit wrong with me genetically. I have too many traits that are on the autism spectrum and related mental/behavior issues, even if I had healthy children I might not cope well or be a competent parent to be honest.

**Olem** · 06-25-2011, 04:23 AM

23, no girlfriend or wife, but I do want 1-2 kids at some point.

**CyanideSoda** · 06-25-2011, 04:42 AM

32, no kids. Have said I never wanted any since the sage age of 14. Nothing has changed. I give marriage a 0.01% probability but it's not my thing and I get bored too easily for a lifetime commitment.

**Autumnleaf** · 06-25-2011, 04:56 AM

Married with 8 kids. Sometimes its a mess but other times its worth it all.

**Einarr** · 06-25-2011, 05:47 AM

I am 45. Have one boy 24, and one girl 19

**DrWin** · 06-25-2011, 06:12 AM

26. Not married (in a relationship of 5 years) and no desire to be.

No kids and don't want any anytime soon (maybe someday?? not sure). It has been only recently where I have started to not dislike babies (but only one in particular...baby of good friend)...perhaps my biological clock just started ticking. I kind of want a family someday when I am more settled in my career but I have a long way to go.

**Bisclavret** · 06-25-2011, 11:38 AM

24. Don't have kids, and have no desire in ever having any in my foreseeable future. I am definitely not interested in getting married either...

**Hawkx** · 06-25-2011, 11:50 AM

My expectations are also too high, we tend to be perfectionists. I personally don't want children but if I ever do get married and my future wife wants children then 2-3(3 if she is very persuasive) is the max. I'll also try to contribute rational/intelligent children to the world.

I've never had any girlfriends and I'm 18(going to be 19 in one month) years old so it looks very bleak at this moment.

They shouldn't expect a lot of emotional support out of me...

Additionally:
By the looks of it Rationals don't have a lot of children in general based on this poll. That's bad for the future generation and advancement of the human race.

**benr3600** · 06-25-2011, 12:35 PM

	Originally Posted by Hawkx To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Additionally: By the looks of it Rationals don't have a lot of children in general based on this poll. That's bad for the future generation and advancement of the human race.

That was exactly my point. I actually made this poll in response to the "why is S so prevalent" and "why are rationals so rare" threads lately, where everybody seemed to postulate ideas that cover virtually everything...except that we simply don't reproduce like rabbits. It's simple math.

**zibber** · 06-25-2011, 01:12 PM

27. Always wavered on the topic, but it's becoming clear that I don't want kids of my own. I love kids and am great with them -really great-, but parenting is another matter entirely. If only in terms of time & money.

	Originally Posted by benr3600 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	That was exactly my point. I actually made this poll in response to the "why is S so prevalent" and "why are rationals so rare" threads lately, where everybody seemed to postulate ideas that cover virtually everything...except that we simply don't reproduce like rabbits. It's simple math.

Don't forget the fact that NTs don't always breed with NTs.

**benr3600** · 06-25-2011, 01:22 PM

	Originally Posted by zibber To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Don't forget the fact that NTs don't always breed with NTs.

Well yeah, it's not like you can throw MBTI temperaments into a punnett square, to bust out science. I would say it is more of a behavioral causation, with I/E being mostly physiologically predisposed. A lot of us have IxTx parents, from what I've seen. It's an interesting topic, for sure.

**Hawkx** · 06-25-2011, 01:46 PM

	Originally Posted by benr3600 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	A lot of us have IxTx parents, from what I've seen. It's an interesting topic, for sure.

I would agree with that, me and my father aren't at all close to each other and barely show emotions; we tend to live life our own way. My mother is also very Introverted and she is an intuitive, she generalizes a lot of things. Overall my mother is an INFJ, while my father is an INTP. While I myself am an INTJ.

**9tailz** · 06-25-2011, 01:58 PM

28,married to a beautiful,intelligent and loving woman, 30,first child hopefully a girl

**JackCY** · 06-25-2011, 02:06 PM

25 and I do want family one day

**jnoelle** · 06-25-2011, 04:12 PM

I'm 18 and never want kids, never wanted kids. I just don't get them and they don't get me. But if I get married and my partner is really good with kids, I might adopt if they're willing to do most of the parenting, but even then, if they have baby fever, that might be a total deal-breaker for me. And there's no way I'm going to push something the size of a small melon out of my crotch.

**Warrior** · 06-25-2011, 04:17 PM

My first child was born when I was in my late 20s.

**rbc** · 06-25-2011, 04:50 PM

INTx, 37, married to INTP, 39. We both want children, and have for many years, but my wife is still awaiting medical clearance for pregnancy.
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**Hitchhiker** · 06-25-2011, 06:00 PM

37, no children. I have never wanted children. Never liked playing with baby dolls. Really hate people either being patronizing and telling me I will want them some day when I get married (because I would never marry a man who wanted kids... not fair to either of us), or treating me like I am some kind of alien freak because I am woman who doesn't want kids ("that's just unnatural").

**IchibanDasai** · 06-25-2011, 06:12 PM

It's a shame, really. Considering we are the type of people needed to breed more.
...and yet, I can't see myself with children, either.

**Einarr** · 06-25-2011, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by rbc
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INTx, 37, married to INTP, 39. We both want children, and have for many years, but my wife is still awaiting medical clearance for pregnancy.
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Bummer.............sorry to hear that.

View Poll Results: Your age?
minor; no children	5	2.45%
18-20; no children	45	22.06%
21-24; no children	62	30.39%
25-30; no children	37	18.14%
30-35; no children	10	4.90%
35+; no children	16	7.84%
had children when a minor	1	0.49%
had children at 18-20	3	1.47%
had children at 21-24	0	0%
had children at 25-29	12	5.88%
had children at 30-34	4	1.96%
had children at 35+	9	4.41%
Voters: 204. You may not vote on this poll

06-25-2011, 01:44 AM	#1
benr3600 Member [28%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,131	What is your situation regarding children? Please only NTs vote. Discussion is open, though. Edit: if you have children, please vote for the age group in which you started to have them, not how old you are now. Mods feel free to modify the "have children" options to "had children at xx-xx"
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06-25-2011, 01:50 AM	#2
Beric Member [33%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,331	20. Definitely want to have kids and a family someday.
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06-25-2011, 02:00 AM	#3
DKnife New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 60	36 not married, no kids. Would like to be but I can't see it happening.
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06-25-2011, 02:37 AM	#4
Nemesis Core Member [307%] MBTI: XXXX Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 12,282	28, no wife or kids... no desire for either.
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06-25-2011, 02:51 AM	#5
benr3600 Member [28%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,131	I want to have children and a wife at some point, but I have already accepted the fact that I may live out my life with neither, if I can not find a wife to meet my (unfortunately) somewhat high standards.
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06-25-2011, 02:57 AM	#6
Rationality Member [30%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,238	I'm 28. I've never particularly wanted children and there must be something a bit wrong with me genetically. I have too many traits that are on the autism spectrum and related mental/behavior issues, even if I had healthy children I might not cope well or be a competent parent to be honest.
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06-25-2011, 04:23 AM	#7
Olem New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 19	23, no girlfriend or wife, but I do want 1-2 kids at some point.
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06-25-2011, 04:42 AM	#8
CyanideSoda Member [08%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 355	32, no kids. Have said I never wanted any since the sage age of 14. Nothing has changed. I give marriage a 0.01% probability but it's not my thing and I get bored too easily for a lifetime commitment.
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06-25-2011, 04:56 AM	#9
Autumnleaf Core Member [234%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 9,399	Married with 8 kids. Sometimes its a mess but other times its worth it all.
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06-25-2011, 05:47 AM	#10
Einarr Member [48%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,929	I am 45. Have one boy 24, and one girl 19
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06-25-2011, 06:12 AM	#11
DrWin Member [03%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 154	26. Not married (in a relationship of 5 years) and no desire to be. No kids and don't want any anytime soon (maybe someday?? not sure). It has been only recently where I have started to not dislike babies (but only one in particular...baby of good friend)...perhaps my biological clock just started ticking. I kind of want a family someday when I am more settled in my career but I have a long way to go.
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06-25-2011, 11:38 AM	#12
Bisclavret Veteran Member [64%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 2,570	24. Don't have kids, and have no desire in ever having any in my foreseeable future. I am definitely not interested in getting married either...
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06-25-2011, 11:50 AM	#13
Hawkx Member [09%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 391	My expectations are also too high, we tend to be perfectionists. I personally don't want children but if I ever do get married and my future wife wants children then 2-3(3 if she is very persuasive) is the max. I'll also try to contribute rational/intelligent children to the world. I've never had any girlfriends and I'm 18(going to be 19 in one month) years old so it looks very bleak at this moment. They shouldn't expect a lot of emotional support out of me... Additionally: By the looks of it Rationals don't have a lot of children in general based on this poll. That's bad for the future generation and advancement of the human race.
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06-25-2011, 01:58 PM	#18
9tailz New Member [01%] MBTI: INXJ Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 72	28,married to a beautiful,intelligent and loving woman, 30,first child hopefully a girl
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06-25-2011, 02:06 PM	#19
JackCY Core Member [111%] MBTI: INTj Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,463	25 and I do want family one day
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06-25-2011, 04:12 PM	#20
jnoelle Banned MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 476	I'm 18 and never want kids, never wanted kids. I just don't get them and they don't get me. But if I get married and my partner is really good with kids, I might adopt if they're willing to do most of the parenting, but even then, if they have baby fever, that might be a total deal-breaker for me. And there's no way I'm going to push something the size of a small melon out of my crotch.
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06-25-2011, 04:17 PM	#21
Warrior Core Member [236%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 9,449	My first child was born when I was in my late 20s.
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06-25-2011, 04:50 PM	#22
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06-25-2011, 06:00 PM	#23
Hitchhiker New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 33	37, no children. I have never wanted children. Never liked playing with baby dolls. Really hate people either being patronizing and telling me I will want them some day when I get married (because I would never marry a man who wanted kids... not fair to either of us), or treating me like I am some kind of alien freak because I am woman who doesn't want kids ("that's just unnatural").
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06-25-2011, 06:12 PM	#24
IchibanDasai Member [02%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 119	It's a shame, really. Considering we are the type of people needed to breed more. ...and yet, I can't see myself with children, either.
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