[Shadizar]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Looking for something else... I think it was about cheating... I came across this
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. I find it amusing as it essentially states the dating game is meant to weed out the INTJs from the dating pool.

[MyotisLucifugus]

For crying out fucking loud.

We may as well start up a dating handshake, kind of like a secret nerdlinger society version of
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(only hopefully way more successful). That way INTJs can just identify each other and relax or out themselves as replicants and move on, because these rules are going to make my life way more difficult than it needs to be.

I'll be the first to nominate the Vulcan salute.

Edit: You know what? Fuck this list. First page: "Women want to be touched." Second page: "DON'T TOUCH HER OR SHE'LL THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO USE HER FOR SEX!!!!!!1111"

So there's an elaborate set of criteria for when you should and shouldn't touch people? How about I stick to my usual policy of not invading private space until I'm certain they won't mind it?

Also, I had a good long laugh at the "stop staring" point. I am so, so screwed (or not, hurr).

[deckard]

I'm too sexy to be weeded out. Someone will swoon over me again, social faux pas and all.
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[Anemoi]

	Originally Posted by Shadizar To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I find it amusing as it essentially states the dating game is meant to weed out the INTJs from the dating pool.

Indeed
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Difficult social rituals and nuances for grace and blablabla.

	A hug at the end of the date is a great way to show her you want to touch her, but don’t pat her on the back. Although this could happen when you feel a bit nervous or you don’t want her to think you’re jumping her, the back pat gives her the idea that you are uncomfortable getting closer to her or that you just don’t want to make contact

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[Autumnleaf]

You have to date a lot. Then your intuition will have the experience to steer you into the mine like a heat seeking missile, or something like that.
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[Mogura]

I don't get it. The list seems pretty straightforward and intuitive (albeit a bit predictable and clichéd). What's the problem?

[Haumea]

The problem is some of the advice is crap.

You don't "lean in", as she recommends. You don't want to seem overeager.

Why would you take advice from what is likely some feminista journalista? As if.

She's likely a very sweet ENFP type who knows very well what she should be attracted to, which also happens to be 180 degrees away from reality.

[Muse]

Don't really know why the article is directed at men. None of it seems all that gender specific. Or maybe i'm just too open minded.

Secondly, some of this stuff is pretty trivial/conflicting, as has been pointed out.

[Shadizar]

Here's another giggle. INTJs are the epitome of
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, yet the world seems blind to it.

[Jalex]

I don't get it either... in fact many of the points are pro-intj, for example eye-contact and "not touching"... so what is the anti-intj again?

Anyway, in the correct level of abstraction this "tips" are correct. but they are so abstract and general that they are useless.

One thing is true, the best way of giving the best impression is "to act" and not being you. That is, make girls believe your story, give them what they want (which is definetely not you) and then you will stand a chance. Sad indeed.

[Vermillion]

A true INTJ would understand his short comings and easily correct/compensate for them.
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[Haumea]

	Don't really know why the article is directed at men.

Because it's in AskMen ("Become a better man!!!!1!!!11")
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[Muse]

	Originally Posted by Shadizar To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Here's another giggle. INTJs are the epitome of To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , yet the world seems blind to it.

Wow. Man. Wow.. I giggled.

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	Because it's in AskMen ("Become a better man!!!!1!!!11") To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

girls need help too. My date tonight sucked. (and no not that sucked)

This definitely isn't a very good article though.

[Zsych]

Being INTJ typically means not having gained enough experience with people to know what mistakes are - when you actually do care to not make mistakes
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In a sense the point is still valid, if you get rejected immediately for not knowing how to deal with a relationship with someone... its because you very obviously don't know how to have/maintain a relationship with that person, and most likely it would be a disaster if they did accept you initially.

[Muse]

I thought dealing with a relationship consisted of love, loyalty, honesty, kindness, maturity, and a willingness to compromise. Not which direction my feet are pointing. (the first bold print in the article). Though i will admit, a back pat during a romantic hug would be awkward. Not deal breaking, but awkward.

The sad thing is that there are people that actually put stock in these silly rituals having some sort of compatibility meaning. And then choose an SO based on that.

Oh divorce rate, how you begin to make sense to me, you large and vexing number you.

[MrFreakaficial]

The article does not factor in the conditionality of body language. A "pat on the back" may not be a bad idea at all if certain circumstances are met - if it's done as part of a stretched out joke, making it a humourous gesture, and the other party understands and appreciates your intentions, there is nothing wrong with it. Such guides tend to be terribly limiting, I find.

[Muse]

I would appreciate a bit of good intentioned awkwardness really. Adds flavor.

[Haumea]

	girls need help too. My date tonight sucked. (and no not that sucked)

My idea of a bad date is "wow, you're making it really difficult for me to seduce you by being so annoying...since I'm out with you I'm obviously sexually attracted to you, so could you please stop being so annoying already so it doesn't completely kill my desire for you?"

[ppu6502]

	Originally Posted by Muse To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I would appreciate a bit of good intentioned awkwardness really. Adds flavor.

^ yea

My best dates have been when we're both acutely aware of, and mocking, the absurdity of dating itself.

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(maybe that's not exactly what you meant, but made me think of it)

[rednet2]

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	Here's another giggle. INTJs are the epitome of To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , yet the world seems blind to it.

Logical fallacy. The myths indicate what is not masculine. They don't say that the opposite is.

[Shadizar]

	Originally Posted by MrFreakaficial To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	The article does not factor in the conditionality of body language. A "pat on the back" may not be a bad idea at all if certain circumstances are met - if it's done as part of a stretched out joke, making it a humourous gesture, and the other party understands and appreciates your intentions, there is nothing wrong with it. Such guides tend to be terribly limiting, I find.

She's such a cutie, and she's lettering me hug her
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..."can I burp you?"

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	Logical fallacy. The myths indicate what is not masculine. They don't say that the opposite is.

For those who missed the joke of the list, and my reaction to it, cough rednet cough, ahem; yes the myths say what masculine is not, which is also what INTJs typically are not.

[Jalex]

	Originally Posted by Muse To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I thought dealing with a relationship consisted of love, loyalty, honesty, kindness, maturity, and a willingness to compromise. Not which direction my feet are pointing. (the first bold print in the article). Though i will admit, a back pat during a romantic hug would be awkward. Not deal breaking, but awkward.

Well this has been studied, in fact it has a name... "the bear hug, with pat". In Spain they directed a survey to find that this kind of hugs are a sign of friendship from one of the parts (usually the girl), that's the reason to avoid it (or give it depending your intentions).

There are several behaviours that are related to friendship between opposite sexs. All of the studies are well documented in relationships dynamics. If I find a reliable source I'll paste it, no doubt.

[therrirl]

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For crying out fucking loud. We may as well start up a dating handshake, kind of like a secret nerdlinger society version of To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (only hopefully way more successful). That way INTJs can just identify each other and relax or out themselves as replicants and move on, because these rules are going to make my life way more difficult than it needs to be. I'll be the first to nominate the Vulcan salute. Edit: You know what? Fuck this list. First page: "Women want to be touched." Second page: "DON'T TOUCH HER OR SHE'LL THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO USE HER FOR SEX!!!!!!1111" So there's an elaborate set of criteria for when you should and shouldn't touch people? How about I stick to my usual policy of not invading private space until I'm certain they won't mind it? Also, I had a good long laugh at the "stop staring" point. I am so, so screwed (or not, hurr).

Funny enough, I see how a girl connects with me verbally and mentally and within a few moments I break the touch barriar if I like what I see in her. I use my inution almost exclusively. Lately, it has not lead me wrong. Even if the lady is slightly uncomfortable with the touch, it seems that she tells me later that she appreciated it and it relaxed her? I remember one date that we just talked and laughed for almost 20 minutes straight while getting movie tickes and snacks and by the time we sat down to see the movie she didn't mind me putting my arm around her and she leaned in after only a few minutes more? That was an ENTJ. Had a similar reaction from ESTJ. ESFJ kept her distance from me for most of a roller blade session until I came up and grabbed her and pulled her close and whispered in her ear a little, then she well . . . . it was a happy ending.

[deckard]

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	Here's another giggle. INTJs are the epitome of To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , yet the world seems blind to it.

Real Men Travel In Packs

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[Pheehelm]

Can I just...you know...relax? I think I'll just relax, and see how things go from there. That seems like a good plan.

	Originally Posted by Muse To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I thought dealing with a relationship consisted of love, loyalty, honesty, kindness, maturity, and a willingness to compromise. Not which direction my feet are pointing. (the first bold print in the article). The sad thing is that there are people that actually put stock in these silly rituals having some sort of compatibility meaning. And then choose an SO based on that.

To be fair to them, they're talking about the first date, which (barring unusual cases) comes before the relationship itself. The purpose of the feet-pointing is that it (reportedly) conveys attraction and attention, which are also a part of a relationship.