[Nepenthe]

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You're job is to run around a battelfield cleaning the crap off people who died and then 'released' in the trenches. Because, you know, there aren't resources to cart them all off yet but you can at least clean up their excrament before the other soldiers get sick. So not only do you clean up crap without access to bathing afterwards, you are traumatized by dead people everywhere AND are getting shot at. That is the worst job for all of the people.

Oooh. That is the worst job I can think of.

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	But you could start building your army in early age.)

Yeah, where's the imagination? We already have
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	I'd rather be working with/being a candy stripper for old people any day! There are only certain/very few children I can stand. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Candy strippers, huh? I guess it's true, the baby boomers ARE changing the way we age.
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Maybe I'll enjoy the retirement home a lot more that I thought.

	Originally Posted by masterpeach To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	This. That includes almost any job you might otherwise be suited for (unless you're the one to make the rules).

Dealing with incompetent management and lacking authority to change it makes any job awful.

[Haumea]

Sales. I'd shoot myself in the first week.

[Dusk]

I worked in customer services for a while. It was a choice of that or sleeping on a park bench. Wish I had gone for the park bench.

[Geise]

Anything that would require us to be outwardly happy and chipper all day. My face begins to hurt after just 5 minutes of forced smiling.

[juju817]

Being a factory worker or anything that requires an enormous amount of mindlessness.

[Axion004]

Working in an office. Although that is what happens to around 90% of the students who graduate from college.

[Yuri]

	Originally Posted by Haumea To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Sales. I'd shoot myself in the first week.

I almost shot myself in the first week. It was another one of my attempts to not be so introverted. I eventually surrendered to the need to be alone despite successfully selling over $1000 in product.
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[notconventional]

	Originally Posted by sentientbeing To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Stripper

Actually I know an INTJ who's a stripper. She's quite successful at it too. Weird... She loves pole dancing and likes to be paid for that love. Sex is arbitararily made sacred she reasons and men are easily manipulated.

I've enjoyed working in a (printing) factory because I got to create my own system for maximum efficiency. But I can understand if all you're supposed to do is one repetetive action. My tasks always took half a day or more to complete and were rarely ever repeated completely the same. Essentially I made and perfected one to two systems every day. Ah quivery bliss. If only the GFC hadn't happened. Sigh.

Cabin Crew for aircraft. All those strangers sitting creepily close to each other expecting you to politely run around and get things for them. All the while trapped with them in a tiny little 'room'. Shudder.

[intjistp]

	Originally Posted by Yuri To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I almost shot myself in the first week. It was another one of my attempts to not be so introverted. I eventually surrendered to the need to be alone despite successfully selling over $1000 in product. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

That's the worst thing to do. see the people as objects and study them. see how it is going.

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A priest

[wstim05]

I'd say anywhere in customer service or retail.. especially a waiter! that would be some sort of brand new hell to me..

[babsa]

I think intj's can do anything with anti-depressants.

[TheSpiralAim]

Retail... they'll be good at it but, man o man will they want to kill people on a daily basis.


"Do your shoes come with Shoe laces?"

me, "Yes ma'am."

What I want to say, "Holy crap lady how do you not drown when you shower in the morning?"

[Pinnacle]

multilevel marketing sales

[XFire35]

	Originally Posted by Japonica To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Retail. Period.

I had a part time job on the Music and Video desk at Asda. I died a little every time I worked there. The customers tended on the side of stupidity and were unable to use their eyes to look for what they wanted; I even asked my manager to have my job title changed to "omniscient telepathic multi-linguist" (or something to that effect). "Do you have the sweets which are in the purple wrapper.", "I'm looking for that DVD with that man from x in it.", "Them: I want to buy the CD which has the music from your TV Ad in it; Me: I don't watch TV so I can't help; Them: Don't you have a book or something which tells you, how can you not know, you work for them?". And so it went on.

The whole nature of the job and the constant cycle of stock rotation and moving stupid materialistic shit around really got to me and my manager wasn't Mr Competent either.

[Anderson]

Worst job for INTJ:
Gospel Choir Singer
Day Care Employee
Housekeeper/Nanny
Teen Idol Pop Star
Special Ed Teacher

[Reserved]

From personal experience I can easily say Hostess and by the looks of things the servers don't have it too well either.
As a hostess I have to put on my "happy face" everytime a customer walks in, greet them with the same "Hello, and welcome to ____!", hold the door open for repulsing people (much more than half are overweight), and clean up after the animals have feasted.

Some of the worst situations are when we get customers that are well into their adult years and insist that we all come around to humiliate ourselves at their table because it's one of their equally aged friend's birthday. ...don't even get me started on the people that leave less than 20% of the final bill for tips.

[babsa]

Originally Posted by Reserved To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

From personal experience I can easily say Hostess and by the looks of things the servers don't have it too well either. As a hostess I have to put on my "happy face" everytime a customer walks in, greet them with the same "Hello, and welcome to ____!", hold the door open for repulsing people (much more than half are overweight), and clean up after the animals have feasted. Some of the worst situations are when we get customers that are well into their adult years and insist that we all come around to humiliate ourselves at their table because it's one of their equally aged friend's birthday. ...don't even get me started on the people that leave less than 20% of the final bill for tips.

Since when has 20% become the standard of tips? Could you please explain this new standard for tipping?

[Rhyseh]

IT end user support is a bad one. Don't be fooled by the problem solving part of this job. 99% of your job involves making people happy and performing repetitive, mind numbing tasks. Also it makes you question how people dress themselves in the morning.

[JulesK]

About 99% of what has been said resonates with me, but I'm curious what you all think about this: a job that is very hectic where you are constantly distracted by various audio and visual inputs, but you can't just try to ignore them. Instead, you must monitor them while continuing to work and decide if they take precedence over what you are working on, attend to them, and then return back to what you were working on before (unless something else comes up in between). In some cases, you will need to do some spatial analysis, (i.e. plotting the location of the objects to your own). Some of the inputs must be formulated into reports and sent to the appropriate parties within minutes... Also, you are coordinating within a crew of several people who are also adding inputs. It is just... hell, for me at least. I wonder how other INTJs might feel about that sort of work, or if it's not a personality thing at all. Also, you could consider other jobs that are both hectic and time sensitive, even jobs in the service industry - say, possibly fast food (which was actually mentioned), or short order cooks, especially those who take their orders verbally and must keep them all straight, or in the medical field, EMTs and ER personnel. I know from experience that I've handled myself well in several unexpected crises/emergencies, but a hectic job with lots of sensory input, rapid decision making, and the constant need to re-focus my attention is just sooooo hard for me.

EDIT: oh, and Air Traffic Controllers, as well. I actually found a study on ATCs, and there aren't many INTJs, or really, anything other than ISTJs and ESTJs.

[LoquaciousNinja]

Retail. No question. There is no redeeming quality. Customers are overly-entitled, selfish, greedy, impatient, downright malicious, and frankly, mentally nonfunctional. It's hell on earth--continuous repetitive menial tasks, overload of sensory input that must be monitored and processed, a constant position of inferiority, and people always assuming you have a mental deficiency and can't be trusted to handle their mass-produced consumer shit without peeing on it or something. Oh, and the pay sucks and there are no perks. Ever.

[Geminii]

	Originally Posted by Rhyseh To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	IT end user support is a bad one. Don't be fooled by the problem solving part of this job. 99% of your job involves making people happy and performing repetitive, mind numbing tasks. Also it makes you question how people dress themselves in the morning.

Internal corporate support for a large-scale whitecollar employer isn't as bad as having to support the general public. And the working environment and caliber of co-workers can be a big factor, too.

I got lucky once and landed a job as a national support tech for a huge government agency. The techs were ranked (and paid) higher than 90% of the callers, the systems (although sprawling and complex) were largely QA'd, bulletproof, and multiply redundant, and major problems were immediately attacked by an army of developers, interface specialists, and (for hardware) field replacement teams. If your office server room - and everything else - was underwater, the fieldies would be out there the next day in a speedboat full of remote-access laptops and satellite uplinks.

I was there for seven years, and only left because a change in management had left a chink in the IT department's armor which the brass used to cut budget and staffing, leading to all the competent techs walking and being replaced by shambling drones. I was the last of the original techs out the door, and the one non-tech person who had been there longer than me left the following month.

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	Worst career/job for an INTJ? Basically any job where your boss has achieved his rank/position by seniority, political maneuvering, etc. as opposed to having achieved it via merit or performance. Even worse if your boss is a proven idiot...

I did work once for a couple of bosses who were very good indeed at both performance and politics. It was a genuine pleasure to watch them perform political maneuvering or put subtle plans into action, perhaps because they always did it for the benefit of their team rather than screwing the team over in the name of the brass.

One guy was so good that he called me over once, blatantly and openly spun his trap that needed someone from the tech department to take on a lot more touchy-feely interpersonal liaison duties, and just grinned while he waited for me to connect the dots and realise that:

(a) Yes, we really actually did have a pressing need for someone to be in such a position, as the guy who'd used to do it had left and his successors had sucked; and

(b) There was only one person out of the entire team who had both the backbone and range of experience to be able to fulfill the role without getting walked all over. Dammit.

Yes, he made me talk myself into throwing myself into a role I would have fought tooth and nail against had it been forced on me, and he did it in four minutes flat. I never knew whether to be pissed about being so comprehensively outthought, or flat-out admiring of the sheer skill displayed in doing it.

(Also a bit proud that this guy was in OUR team. I was much more used to working alongside people who ranged from utter idiots to competent-but-mediocre.)

[Mogy]

Huh... it's weird, because I actually stand little kids... well, even like that I wouldn't like being a Special Ed teacher... :S I don't want to be an administrator nor accountant... seems boring.

[Sworddancer]

I'm in the social work field; not a social worker a psych major. It's emotionally draining!! Thank GOD I have my own office. Interestingly, social work is based on systems theory...how is it they all think with their emotions?!! I'm considering getting my masters in research!

Other jobs I've had and can attest are NOT good for INTJ's:
waitress
cashier

I did like being a bartender though!

[Wongette]

Anything that involves cold calling, smoozing, or having people emote at you all day.
Anything that involves doing repetitive tasks that have been preordained for you.
Anything that involves having idiots manage you.

[byhisello99]

I despise sales. I abhor sales. Unfortunately, I am very good at it.