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How do I explain this to my doctor, if at all? health, mental health
Old 06-03-2011, 03:58 PM   #26
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I don't think the symptoms jive too well with schizophrenia (and they seem too frequent for bipolar). But it does seem like you have some problem, and it might not necessarily be psychological. It could possibly be neurological, and it might be prudent to get your brain checked if for no other reason than to rule it out. Note that I'm not a doctor, and that's very much a shot in the dark. But your brain is doing weird things that don't really fit into any diagnosis, so it's not entirely unreasonable that something's gone wrong with the wiring (hopefully not a tumor). How old are you?

It am between 20-28. I got a CAT scan about. . 6monthts ago nothing appeared up on it. I dont really like taking into account the medical suggestions behind it any way, like siobhan said I will go see a doctor.

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Old 06-04-2011, 05:25 AM   #27
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These things come and go, sometimes its every day, some times once a week and getting more intense so I dont turn up to work. I just got persuaded by my flat mate and brother to see a doctor, why should I if they think I would be making things up. Would you put on things like this- you not even sure if you are awake or alive. I would not wish this on any one. Maybe I am lying and dreaming right now? How do i know
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Old 06-04-2011, 04:41 PM   #28
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Maybe you're having metaphysical experiences because previously unaddressed neural connections (synapses) are quickly reforming your brain to a healthier state. Of course if you are on drugs, that would likely be a culprit. I'm no doctor but I had similar experiences when I was younger. At the time I was escaping the haze of smoking pot almost daily for 7 straight years. Don't be sedentary if you can help it.
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Old 06-04-2011, 04:43 PM   #29
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I have never taken illegal drugs before, so I can rule that one out. On the sedendary, as far as I know that means little physical activity, I usually am active with all my jobs and they normally do not require me to sit at a desk etc.
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Old 06-04-2011, 05:40 PM   #30
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I can empathize here. I've had many inexplicable experiences and the only solace was in searching out to find if others had the same. I came to different conclusions but the descriptions I found which were similar had to do with remote viewing and astral projection. The less I thought them to be "ethereal", the less experiences I had. Which was my goal. I'm fond of predictable sensory experiences and fare better with run of the mill "reality" so to speak. All the best in your experience, wherever it may lead and whatever your goal.
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Old 06-05-2011, 05:44 AM   #31
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I feel pretty lacking in energy to day, dont want to do art, but I finally feel for the 1st time this week 'this is real, I am here, every thing is.' i hope this continues.
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Old 06-05-2011, 07:19 AM   #32
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I can empathize here. I've had many inexplicable experiences and the only solace was in searching out to find if others had the same. I came to different conclusions but the descriptions I found which were similar had to do with remote viewing and astral projection. The less I thought them to be "ethereal", the less experiences I had. Which was my goal. I'm fond of predictable sensory experiences and fare better with run of the mill "reality" so to speak. All the best in your experience, wherever it may lead and whatever your goal.

There have been cases in where a well practised astral traveller can operate throughout the day half in the body and half out. If this one indeed has been working on this level, yet having no knowledge of this activity, then...

Well, lets just say there are a lot of factors behind this, and though I am sure this is not the first time, I would hate for her to be subject to experimentation.

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Old 06-05-2011, 08:24 AM   #33
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That sounds crazy, how can I dream day awaking? I heart is pretty sick from child hood, marfan syndrom and tachicardia. Plus my mitrial valve needs replacing. No tea. How could I dream while awake, I cant thats impossibale
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:55 AM   #34
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That sounds crazy, how can I dream day awaking? I heart is pretty sick from child hood, marfan syndrom and tachicardia. Plus my mitrial valve needs replacing. No tea. How could I dream while awake, I cant thats impossibale

NO it not impossible.

Some people intentionally try to 'dream while awake'. Others have the experience spontaneously such as the late Robert Monroe. First things first he did - right after he realized he was dying - was to see every professional medical care type in existence in the '70's.

See the best doctors you can.

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Old 06-05-2011, 12:12 PM   #35
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If i happened to be dreaming while awake, would it not mean when I sleep, the next day I would be fine?
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Old 06-05-2011, 06:18 PM   #36
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If i happened to be dreaming while awake, would it not mean when I sleep, the next day I would be fine?

Robert Monroe's out-of-body experiences spanning over 40 years and culminating in 3 books taught him that 'things are different' in such altered states of consciousness, to put it succinctly.

I would not jump to conclusions regarding your non-normal experiences based on your 'normal life'.

Good Luck with the Medical appointments.

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Old 06-06-2011, 04:09 AM   #37
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First of all, mental health "professionals" usually suck. I had a long prodromal period and a natural psychotic break about 8 months ago. Their solution? Throw me on random drugs that are basically poisons and work according to completely different mechanisms of action that the docs around here don't really even properly understand. If you do go the "mental health" route don't ever be alone. Be open and clear to your brother and family but be very careful what you tell "doctors" as they record shit and you don't want a label slapped on your record. Their solution almost always involves some quick med. Almost every antipsychotic WILL MAKE YOU want to kill yourself or feel really freaking terrible at some period of time and probably make you fat/lazy/miserable. Most often they over prescribe and it might be good to experiment on SLOWLY working it down to a level that is comfortable. Lot of the meds are expensive and you get to where you need them to function. My medicine costs more per ounce than gold. My meds and care are free but I was crazy (literally) during that whole process so I'm not exactly sure how that got setup. My husband took care of that. Most likely their first throw at you will be risperidone which isn't so bad at low dose. They usually cross prescribe with benzo's and I had achieved mental nirvana during that period of time. Seriously, I was at peace with the world and everything was wonderful. Then my doc took my dose to 6mg and I stopped taking the benzo's since I was concerned about addiction. Felt cold jolts down my spine and this overwhelming feeling of impending doom for about a month straight. Went to the hospital at 4 am just to get a new doc and then I switched meds. All I'm saying is be careful when you enter into the "mental health" care.

You seem to still be in the functional zone since you can compose coherent thoughts and you don't have aliens communicating through your vacuum cleaner. My advice would be to figure out any allergies you might have. Research possible food allergies and pay special attention to substances you come in contact with. Your immune system is heavily linked to your mental functioning. Like Seroquel is basically a fancy benadryl with alpha agonist properties. It is also a pretty effective way to have "instant diabetes" for most people. Usually people get fat as hell from taking it for only a few weeks and it makes you groggy.

If you have suddenly gone more vegetarian that can also lead up to mental instability due to too many reasons to go into. Its simply a matter that your body is a biological machine and nutritional deficits or excesses make very bad fuel for your machine.

Make an effort to get MUCH more sleep. Go to bed early, try some valerian root. Whatever, get your ass to sleep. ANYONE can fall into a psychosis/depersonalization/schizo simply by not sleeping sufficiently.

If you have stress in your life do everything you can to minimize it. Your fight or flight junk affects all sorts of things and messes up your hormones.

You might also want your hormone levels looked at. I have been having a lot of success by taking good phytoestrogens like black cohosh, soy isoflavones, hops...etc. I'm also very amused that my mental health went to crap when I was going through my health kick and my body seems to run better on beer and cheesecake. People absorb/utilize/metabolize nutrients differently. Estrogens have neuroprotective effects though. Maybe look into an endocrinologist/gynecologist.

You could have a new autoimmune issue and this is where it can become an actual problem.
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Old 06-06-2011, 08:03 AM   #38
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To the OP,

I'd like to suggest another alternative that hasn't been mentioned yet. Have you consider taking a high potency multivitamins?

A few years ago when I went to see a psychiatrist for depression and possible bipolar disorder, he put me on Zooloft which I hated taking. After two or three weeks on it, I started researching other treatments over the internet and found some articles about how vitamins and exercise can help with psychological disorders. I read about how your brain require a lot of nutrients to function properly. With that information, I made a theory that being mal-nutrient could be the root cause my depression.

So decided to take a chance and stop taking the zooloft and start taking a multivitamins and within a couple of weeks my depression started getting better. Just like that it ended up working. It's been a couple of years since then and I haven't had another major episode even come close to occurring again while I kept taking my vitamins.

So, it's just a suggestion and it wouldn't hurt to give it a try. If you do decide to I recommend taking a high potency vitamin where many of the daily UI's are over 100% as your body doesn't absorb all of the nutrients and you may need much more than the average person to treat your disorder. And also, vitamins are much cheaper than prescription drugs. The brand I'm using cost me only $30 for a 90-day supply vs the $100 I was paying for a 30-day supply of zooloft. If you want to know what brand I'm using, just let me know.

And just an fyi, the psychiatrist I was seeing suggested I take vitamins along with my zooloft and he told me that many of his other patients gotten better with them. However, I've gotten better by just taking the vitamins alone. So you have to wonder if the zooloft really did anything to help? My opinion is that the drugs just masked your symptom rather than treating the root cause, therefore you end up having to take them for the rest of your life.

Well, whatever you decide good luck to you and I hope you get better.
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Old 06-06-2011, 09:24 AM   #39
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I have read what others have added recently, just not in the mood to reply fully. Main news, did not make it to the doctors for 2 reasons. I slept in and once I got on the bus the police stopped it and told every one to get off. I walked the 15mins to the doctors and the road was cordened off, a 'suspicious device' aka ANOTHER fucking bomb was found and police did not let me past. I rang later to make another appointment and I have one for tomorrow, but they said I have no set time as there is such a back log. So from between 3pm and 6pm I could be seen. I cant remember what exactly some one said, but it was about being careful on what I tell the doctor. I also dont want a label and drugs thrown down my throat, so what should I reveal? Bloody bombers, i bet its a fake.
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Old 06-06-2011, 02:55 PM   #40
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Oh man, internal and external crises. Been there. What a ride! Maybe try chamomile in the meantime, along with the high potency vitamins, licorice root and kava kava.
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Old 06-06-2011, 03:10 PM   #41
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I dont care much about the bomb, about 3rd in the past few days, so this one should be fake. Licorice root,(is that a tea, tablet) is that like licorice sweets? I love them! Heading to bed soon anyway so would not bother drinking tea, maybe morning.
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Old 06-06-2011, 03:32 PM   #42
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I think it's best taken as an extract.
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Old 06-06-2011, 03:40 PM   #43
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No problem in doing that, I love the flavour. I also think my flat mate has herbal tea such as calmonile.
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Old 06-06-2011, 03:49 PM   #44
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These should help wrangle in quite a bit of the symptoms.
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Old 06-06-2011, 08:35 PM   #45
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Also, before making any mental diagnoses, you might want to see an internist or endocrinologist and get some basic bloodwork done. Having out-of-balance pituitary/thyroid/adrenal glands can really mess you up. Especially something like auto-immune thyroiditis, which can cause things like energy highs and lows, irritability, sleeping problems, etc. I'd rule out the possible physical explanations before going straight to being diagnosed with a mental illness.
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Old 06-06-2011, 09:31 PM   #46
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Are you getting enough sleep?
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Old 06-06-2011, 10:07 PM   #47
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Plink, so just say I want my blood tested today? Autum leaf, it really depends. Normally I sleep 3 hours and I am fine (my average), but sometimes sleep way more or way less. Edit : I get tests on my blood and heart done once a month due to some other problems, should I really bother and ask for more?
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:53 AM   #48
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I would tell your doctor you've been having variable sleep patterns, low energy, difficulty concentrating. Ask if he/she would be willing to run a comprehensive metabolic panel (which is a very common set of blood tests, so it won't sound weird), which will give you a profile of your electrolytes, glucose, and liver. Also ask for a complete blood count, which will test your red and white blood cells and platelets. If you have a viral or bacterial infection of some sort, your white blood cell count will be raised. And finally ask for a thyroid test (which will test your TSH--thyroid stimulating hormone).

These are very basic and very common tests doctors use, so don't be afraid to ask for them, especially since you're having symptoms that are hard to pin down. You might already be getting the CMP and CBC done if you're getting monthly bloodwork.
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:51 AM   #49
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Remember, kids: if you are experiencing highly alarming psychological / neurological symptoms, for fuck's sake don't see a doctor, have medical tests done, or take synthetic compounds of known purity which are targeted at and studied for their effect on any conditions you may have. That sort of thing is dangerous! Instead consume random plants. Hemlock, for instance, which is wholly natural and guaranteed to make all your problems go away.
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Old 06-07-2011, 10:38 AM   #50
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Did not bother going. Not sure if I plan to either sure I could just be dreaming now and realise when I get up, thats what he said any way
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