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Old 05-26-2008, 03:33 PM   #1
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Have any of you read books on the Myers-Briggs, Jung, or Keirsey typology systems? If so, what were they and are there any you would or would not recommend?
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:27 PM   #2
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Please Understand Me II by David Keirsey

It has a Meyers-Briggs test in the front. And then it details information on the different types including chapters on relationships, parenting styles, and leadership. It was a very informative read if a little dated at times.
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Old 05-26-2008, 09:03 PM   #3
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Please Understand Me's good. The test is way more accurate than any online tests I've seen, and there's great information on the different temperaments.
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Old 05-26-2008, 09:04 PM   #4
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I think I have to recommend Please Understand Me or Please Understand Me II more than anything. Despite the fact that the type descriptions are stereotypical and the reason behind Keirsey's findings is a little vague, the descriptions are nonetheless very in tune with Jung's concepts, and each type is described in terms of their Jungian type dynamics, even though it isn't spelled out directly.

Do What You Are is a reasonably good read, too, for beginners.

For a better understanding on Jung's cognitive processes, I'd recommend The Portable Jung.

Also, while not really a MBTI/Jung/Keirsey book, Personality Types by Don Riso and Ross Hudson is about the Enneagram, and it correlates the Enneagram types with their respective Jungian functions.
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:30 PM   #5
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I Agree w/pls understand me and the portable jung.
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:36 PM   #6
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1. "Gifts Differing" - This is the most accurate portrayal of the types that I've read in book form. It is written by the makers of the MBTI. It also gives you a fairly complete understanding of MBTI theory, and how the MBTI applies to certain practical domains.

2. "Psychological Types" by Carl Jung. This is the official source of Jung's theory of personality types. It's not a light read, by any means, but you get a good understanding of what Jung really meant when he describes each function and type.

I have "Please Understand Me II", and I don't particularly like it. The descriptions of the types seem exaggerated and based on stereotypes (e.g., all NTs like science, all NFs like the humanities, etc.) I can't even figure out what type I am in his system.
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Old 05-27-2008, 12:50 AM   #7
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  Originally Posted by JasonM
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I have "Please Understand Me II", and I don't particularly like it. The descriptions of the types seem exaggerated and based on stereotypes (e.g., all NTs like science, all NFs like the humanities, etc.) I can't even figure out what type I am in his system.

The individual type descriptions are somewhat simplistic, but the temperament descriptions are quite useful, I think. They may be exaggerated, but I think that helps illustrate what makes each temperament tick.

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Old 05-27-2008, 03:55 AM   #8
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Old 05-27-2008, 07:33 AM   #9
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  Originally Posted by JasonM
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I have "Please Understand Me II", and I don't particularly like it. The descriptions of the types seem exaggerated and based on stereotypes (e.g., all NTs like science, all NFs like the humanities, etc.) I can't even figure out what type I am in his system.

But it isn't literal. It's just the way each type approaches life.

For example, the Artisan is not necessarily good at arts and crafts, but the Artisan approaches life artistically, which is to say spontaneously.

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Old 05-27-2008, 02:09 PM   #10
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I recommend only Jung's Psychological types.

This book clearly identifies type as an unconscious tendencies within one's psyche and not an empirically observable quality of personality.

For this reason, it need not belong in Psychology but in philosophy of mind.

Writings, of Keirsey, Tiggers, and Thomson have debased the essence of type because they have made the idea appear as a quality of personality in order to make their writings marketable to the common folk.

I seek to correct this folly in my own book on the subject, Principles of Typology,(coming in 2008) which the INTJ profile that I have posted on this site shall be part of.

In the end, if one wishes to learn typology, I cannot stress this any more intensely, one ought to refrain from studying Keirsey's types, his work is fraught with confusions between personality and temperament which renders pigeonholing of inviduals almost an inevitable result of inquiry into his ideas. Go straight to the original Psychological Types.
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Old 05-28-2008, 11:41 AM   #11
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As the only sensing type responding, I will say that I have read and have copies of Keirsey, the Tiegers collection, lost my Lenore Thomson book, Gifts Differing, Naomi Quenck's books and one Otto Kroeger.

I agree with SW that if you truly want to know about type, read
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booklets.

I had Naomi Quenck's Step II administered to me many years ago, but it was not until I started relying on my own self-analysis that I was able to finally determine my best fit type. I am still questioning it, but have narrowed it down to STP (most likely ISTP).
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Old 06-02-2008, 11:45 AM   #12
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1. Please Understand Me II/Keirsey
2. Personality Types-An Owners Manual/Thompson
3. The Art of Speedreading People/Tieger & Tieger-Barron; and
4. Just Your Type/ Tieger & Tieger-Barron

Also, at a book store I skimmed through Do What You Are by Tieger & Tieger-Barron, and it appeared there was a lot of overlap between it, and 3 and 4.

I found all of these on Amazon, and relied to a great extent on reader reviews. There are other similar books with quite a number of reader reviews. You may want to check out Amazon for these reviews.

I feel like I learned a lot from 1. 2 is pretty good, too--although from what I've heard about the Berens/Nardi book, I'm wondering whether Berens/Nardi would be better. I would like to read it someday. I would also like to read Jung's Psychological Types.

Regarding 3 & 4, I feel 3 is better than 4. I also feel that neither 3 nor 4 are even close to being as comprehensive as 1 or 2. But 3 and 4 are great for getting up to speed on the general concepts.

1 and 2 can take a while to absorb, and to sink in--at least, it did/does for me.
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Old 06-02-2008, 01:02 PM   #13
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Note* some of the books in mediocre category might be ok for someone completely new to MBTI and made the list for being too simplistic

MBTI:

[] Please Understand Me II, David Keirsey
[] Just Your Type: Create the Relationship You've Always Wanted Using the Secrets of Personality Type, Paul D. Tieger and Barbara Barron-Tieger (this one analyzes every possible relationship combination - very interesting)
[] Personality Type, Lenore Thomson
[] Survival Games Personalities Play, Eva Delunas
[] Besides Ourselves, Naomi Quenk
[] Your Key to Sports Success, Jon Niednagel
[] People Types & Tiger Stripes, Gordon Lawrence (didn't read this one but my friend recommended it who is getting her Masters in Education - mbti as a tool for primary and secondary education)
[] Type Talk at Work, Otto Kroeger (barely made the list but worth reading for anyone who manages or wants to manage people)

Mediocre (to bad) MTBI books:


[] Ideas and Evidence: Critical Reflections on MBTI Theory and Practice, Rowan Bayne
[] 16 Ways to Love Your Lover, Otto Kroeger & Janeet Thuesen
[] Profling Poker Nitwits, Ed Conly (short MBTI section re: poker play)
[] New Personality Self-Portrait, John Oldham and Lois B. Morris
[] Love Types, Alexander Avila
[] Working Together: A Personality-Centered Approach to Management, Olaf Isachsen
[] Understanding Yourself and Others, An Introduction to Temperament - 2.0, Linda V. Berens
[] What Type Am I?: The Myers-Brigg Type Indication Made Easy, Renee Baron
[] Working Together: A Personality-Centered Approach to Management, Olaf Isachsen
[] Do What You Are, Paul Tieger and Barbara Tieger



Other Psychology books:

[] Presentation of Self in Everyday Life, Erving Goffman
[] Games People Play, Eric Berne
[] Consciousness Explained, Daniel Dennett (not really psychology per se but it's a GREAT READ!)
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:16 PM   #14
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  Originally Posted by MaXiM
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booklets.

I just began reading the Jung's link MaXiM provided and it seems that it's truly a must read for anyone that wants to understand typing seriously. In the absence of any revolutionary psychologists/philosophers that build off the work of Jung, I don't think any other work can parallel his original thinking, esp. given that MBTI is admittedly entirely derived from Jung.

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Old 06-07-2008, 09:54 AM   #15
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I read Please Understand Me II as I was still new to typing. Originally I found difficulty in learning about all the 16 types and found the hierarchical approach explained by Keirsey quite useful to organizing the types in my mind at the time. I think it is a good book for beginners, but shouldn't function as the ultimate paradigm.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:37 PM   #16
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Please Understand Me II is my fave, with, Your Key to Sports Success by Jon Niednagel, a distant second.

I bought the PLease understand me video(think I ordered it drunk), and it is shit.
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