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Old 11-07-2010, 08:08 PM   #1
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Just watched the final Sherlock. Wonderful series. The acting was pristine, stayed true to the characters and atmosphere of the original series and the story-telling was smooth and exciting. If this was PBS's attempt to get a younger audience watching their channel, they have certainly hooked me. The last episode, however, had a major cliff hanger and I'm hoping this means they will produce more episodes. I did see that their website and the picture of the DVD referred to these three episodes as "Series I" - so perhaps that means there will be a "Series II."
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:15 PM   #2
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I haven't seen the last episode yet. It's sitting on the DVR until later this week.

The entire family found Sherlock to be a brilliant effort to modernize Holmes.

I'm a Holmes fan of a more traditional bent, and while I can relax enough to enjoy Downey in the latest movie and consider it fun though it's quite a departure, this new Holmes series didn't give me a moment's pause for having diverted from Doyle's original creation.
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:28 PM   #3
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It's hardly PBS's. It's just that you guys get it on PBS. I haven't had the chance to see it (much to my disappointment), I've only heard positives about it though. The British seem seems to be pushing out a few of these high quality tv series. Life on Mars/Ashes to Ashes (the british version) is also worth watching.
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:35 PM   #4
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I watched the first few episodes, it's not bad but it's not my favorite version of Sherlock -- I prefer the 80's series "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes" with Jeremy Brett. I like the concept though (modernizing the stories).
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Old 11-21-2010, 08:27 AM   #5
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I love it. I actually first saw it months ago when it aired in the UK, and as a matter of fact, was just watching the first episode again this morning when I found this thread! I think it's really good, it stays true to the characters (Holmes is a tad more rude in this series than in the books, although since they are amping up his INTJ personality status, that's appropriate), and is just... well, fun.

Yeah, there's a season two in the works -- it starts filming in May, will air on the BBC over the summer, and hit PBS in the autumn. Moffat, the writer, is very quiet about spoilers, but did mention Irene Adler, Hound (of the Baskervilles), and the Falls where Mycroft and Moriarty have their confrontation -- so we can only imagine what is in store for us next season. Oooh, I can hardly wait! *rubs hands together gleefully*

I hated the big-screen Guy Richie Holmes movie. It wasn't... true to Sherlock Holmes.
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Old 11-21-2010, 08:25 PM   #6
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I adore Sherlock. I'm so annoyed that I have to wait! And its totally great that Sherlock shoots the wall when he's bored. I totally want to try that. Of course, I can't, but it sounds like fun! And he has sword fights in their apartment, and John never notices the difference. Says he hasn't moved all day. LOL And the nicotine patches... Sorry. I love Sherlock.
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Old 11-22-2010, 01:12 AM   #7
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I like the lead star.

I caught him on Have I Got News for You the other day, which only confirmed my feelings!
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Old 06-02-2011, 05:05 PM   #8
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  Originally Posted by Storm
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Just watched the final Sherlock. Wonderful series. The acting was pristine, stayed true to the characters and atmosphere of the original series and the story-telling was smooth and exciting. If this was PBS's attempt to get a younger audience watching their channel, they have certainly hooked me. The last episode, however, had a major cliff hanger and I'm hoping this means they will produce more episodes. I did see that their website and the picture of the DVD referred to these three episodes as "Series I" - so perhaps that means there will be a "Series II."
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I just watched Episode One for the 3rd time! I enjoyed it even more this time than I did the other times. I laughed, I cried, it was wonderful! It's available on Netflix by instant streaming, in case anyone is interested.

It took a while for Cumberbatch to grow on me, but I'm used to him now. I absolutely love Watson! I'm glad they made Ho;es a little more human... I especially appreciated when he kissed Mrs. Hudson on the cheek... something Jeremy Brett's Holmes never did.

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Old 06-03-2011, 09:59 PM   #9
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I have seen the first two episodes. They are really long! But they're good. I really like them.
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Old 06-04-2011, 08:23 AM   #10
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I have seen the first two episodes. They are really long! But they're good. I really like them.

Originally, they made the pilot for a one hour time slot, but when the BBC asked them for a pilot, they asked for 90 minutes. I watched the 60 minute version of A Study in Pink (on the DVD available from Netflix) and I was very impressed at how much they had improved the story in the 90 minute version.

It took 3-4 hours for me to start liking Benedict Cumberbatch, but I do like him now. In one way, I prefer him to Jeremy Brett's Holmes, and that is in that he is much warmer to Mrs. Hudson. I find it endearing... like when he gave her a squeeze and a peck on the cheek as they left the house in episode one. He acts more like a son in that regard... and she seems more motherly toward him. I like this relationship MUCH better than Brett's Holmes/Hudson relationship. Brett's Holmes was somewhat abusive at times to Mrs. Hudson and I didn't care for that at all.

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I just watched Episode One for the 3rd time! I enjoyed it even more this time than I did the other times. I laughed, I cried, it was wonderful! It's available on Netflix by instant streaming, in case anyone is interested.

It took a while for Cumberbatch to grow on me, but I'm used to him now. I absolutely love Watson! I'm glad they made Ho;es a little more human... I especially appreciated when he kissed Mrs. Hudson on the cheek... something Jeremy Brett's Holmes never did.

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Old 06-06-2011, 08:12 AM   #11
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Are there only three episodes out right now? I'm trying to figure out how often Netflix updates.
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Old 06-06-2011, 08:36 AM   #12
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Yeah there is only 3 at the moment.

I assume they are or about to film for the next series as Martin Freeman originally had to turn the lead role in The Hobbit to fulfil his obligations......although thats been smoothed over.

Looks likely that he'll become a high profile actor.
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Old 06-06-2011, 10:06 AM   #13
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I prefer the written books . . . absolutly love my complete mysteries of Sherlock Holmes.
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Old 06-06-2011, 02:08 PM   #14
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  Originally Posted by Loco Luko
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Yeah there is only 3 at the moment.

I assume they are or about to film for the next series as Martin Freeman originally had to turn the lead role in The Hobbit to fulfil his obligations......although thats been smoothed over.

Looks likely that he'll become a high profile actor.

I can very easily see it having a 10-year run.
But I am hoping the writing won't get too dark and too weird.
Then I won't enjoy them and I'll stop watching.

I've watched all 3 episodes twice, and now I'm on my 3rd time.

It took me the whole three episodes, the first time through, to start liking Benedict Cumberbatch.

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Old 06-06-2011, 09:20 PM   #15
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How can they leave a hanger like that on the third episode?

How often are they released?
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:10 PM   #16
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How can they leave a hanger like that on the third episode?

How often are they released?

I know! Right?!

They were originally aired on BBC One last July and August!
So people have been waiting almost a year for resolution!
Here's last year's schedule

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home page for Sherlock -
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The page still says:
"Coming up Sorry, no programmes coming up."


But judging by last year... perhaps the end of July?
And then who knows how long until we can see it on Netflix!
Someone will have to come up with something!

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Old 06-08-2011, 12:36 AM   #17
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It was okay. Just okay.

Contemporary tv, Brits included, has opted for some empty quirks that dominate now. Rapidfire editing, mobile camera work and busy lighting/color techniques. I think that it is all in the service of making the films more "cinematic", perhaps a reaction to the classic (in this case British) approaches to tv that used point-and-shoot techniques.

There's this and there's also narrative complexity. More specifically, the idea that stories have to be more complicated, because we always retell the old ones. Considering that we all know the old ones, the new adaptations have to be quicker in order to keep our minds working. To not bore us.

I see much of this in Sherlock. But not just there. Wallander as well. The new Poirots. Bleak House even.

And I am not on board, finding these supposed innovations to be of the superficial kind. You can see what the producers drive at - the appearance of complexity, of a lot of things going on. But it's all just for decoration.

Consider that most of Sherlock's stylistic techniques are not well integrated with the narrative. That is, most of the editing/camera work/color is not unique to the themes in the show, but are rather borrowed fads that dominate. Consider that the narrative enigmas are only pleasing if one prefers to turn off one's brain and let the smart guy (Sherlock) figure things out.

I think that this explains why the contemporary tv detective has become superhuman. Producers believe that we longer wish to participate in unravelling puzzles. Rather the idea is that we just sit and wait for the explanation.
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Old 06-08-2011, 02:37 AM   #18
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  Originally Posted by jaked
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It was okay. Just okay.

Contemporary tv, Brits included, has opted for some empty quirks that dominate now. Rapidfire editing, mobile camera work and busy lighting/color techniques. I think that it is all in the service of making the films more "cinematic", perhaps a reaction to the classic (in this case British) approaches to tv that used point-and-shoot techniques.

There's this and there's also narrative complexity. More specifically, the idea that stories have to be more complicated, because we always retell the old ones. Considering that we all know the old ones, the new adaptations have to be quicker in order to keep our minds working. To not bore us.

I see much of this in Sherlock. But not just there. Wallander as well. The new Poirots. Bleak House even.

And I am not on board, finding these supposed innovations to be of the superficial kind. You can see what the producers drive at - the appearance of complexity, of a lot of things going on. But it's all just for decoration.

Consider that most of Sherlock's stylistic techniques are not well integrated with the narrative. That is, most of the editing/camera work/color is not unique to the themes in the show, but are rather borrowed fads that dominate. Consider that the narrative enigmas are only pleasing if one prefers to turn off one's brain and let the smart guy (Sherlock) figure things out.

I think that this explains why the contemporary tv detective has become superhuman. Producers believe that we longer wish to participate in unravelling puzzles. Rather the idea is that we just sit and wait for the explanation.

I know what you mean about borrowed directing fads.
I really despise some of the new fast-paced directing.
Your eyes can't settle on anything.
They treat us like we've ALL got ADHD!

I love the relationship between Watson and Holmes.
That's what I am watching for.

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Old 06-08-2011, 07:44 AM   #19
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I know what you mean about borrowed directing fads.
I really despise some of the new fast-paced directing.
Your eyes can't settle on anything.
They treat us like we've ALL got ADHD!

I love the relationship between Watson and Holmes.
That's what I am watching for.

The relationship dynamic is wonderfully explored in the Russian Holmes films from the 80s. They have a cult following in the west.

Vitaly Solomin made for a very human Watson. I consider myself spoiled.

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Old 06-11-2011, 12:33 AM   #20
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I've seen all three episodes and thoroughly enjoyed them. I was skeptical at first when I heard it was a modernization or Sherlock Holmes, but I was pleasantly surprised at how well it translated to modern day.
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I've seen all three episodes and thoroughly enjoyed them. I was skeptical at first when I heard it was a modernization or Sherlock Holmes, but I was pleasantly surprised at how well it translated to modern day.

I watched episode 3 for the third time yesterday.

Having seen all 41 of the Granada films last month, by comparison, it seems to me, the new Sherlock is spending a bit more time on dialog/relationship between Holmes and Watson, and I prefer it. They have an enviable relationship. Watson would clearly give up his life for Holmes. Holmes will never show the depth to which he appreciates Watson's loyalty, but I guarantee you he's deeply grateful and deeply moved. He isn't used to being appreciated or loved.

As an aside, Holmes seemed entirely INTJ in episode 3.

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Old 06-11-2011, 04:52 PM   #22
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It's a fantastic series! I love it to pieces. I can't wait for the next eps and stalk Gatiss's twitter for set pictures.
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It's a fantastic series! I love it to pieces. I can't wait for the next eps and stalk Gatiss's twitter for set pictures.

Ooooo! I may have to do likewise!
How do I find his twitter page?

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Old 06-13-2011, 06:55 AM   #24
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  Originally Posted by Storm
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If this was PBS's attempt to get a younger audience watching their channel, they have certainly hooked me.

I thought it was a BBC original?

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Old 06-13-2011, 04:09 PM   #25
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I thought it was a BBC original?

It was, but somehow it was also broadcast on PBS last fall as a part of Masterpiece Mystery! and then available online for a short time as well.

According to a wiki, it's co-produced between the BBC and WGBH Boston (PBS).

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“You can have three words to work from,” he laughs. “Adler, Hound, Reichenbach. Those are your clues.” [for this coming season]



Sherlock, which was co-written and co-created by Moffat and Mark Gatiss, is a modern take on the classic Sir Arthur Conan Doyle detective Sherlock Holmes and stars Benedict Cumberbatch as Holmes and Martin Freeman as Dr. John Watson. The first season consisted of three 90-minute episodes.
You can deduce quite a bit from Moffat’s three-word clue. Here’s my deduction: “Adler” means we’ll meet Irene Adler, the only woman to ever outsmart Sherlock Holmes and to attract his interest. The character appeared in only one Holmes story, “A Scandal in Bohemia,” so either we’ll get an episode based on that story or, like the Guy Ritchie/Robert Downey Jr film Sherlock Holmes, Adler will be inserted into an all-new adventure. “Hound” is a reference to the popular story The Hound Of The Baskervilles, while “Reichenbach” is Reichenbach Falls, where in The Final Problem, Holmes famously faces off with his archnemesis Professor Moriarty.


It looks like there’s lots of adventure to be had in the second season of Sherlock, which will also be a series of three 90-minute episodes and is scheduled to air in the UK in Fall 2011 (which means those of us in the United States will be waiting for this a long time).



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I have friends who live in England.
Maybe they will let me watch their TV via Skype!

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