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Old 04-25-2008, 11:39 AM   #1
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It is possible to harvest viable sperm from a dead man for 24 hours.
Do you believe that if a man signs a donor card that this also includes his sperm? (chopping off his testicles) and freezing them for later use.

While living a man decides that he doesn't want to have children but after death his wife or family members can choose to preserve his sperm to insure his progeny. What are your thoughts.
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:51 AM   #2
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you mean within 24 hrs?

and before rigor mortis sets in?





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actually, that would be kinda morbid

"hey, he JUST died. quick! his testicles!"

and in front of the widow too?
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:22 PM   #3
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  Originally Posted by Motor Jax
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you mean within 24 hrs?

and before rigor mortis sets in?





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actually, that would be kinda morbid

"hey, he JUST died. quick! his testicles!"

and in front of the widow too?

You should see what they do to organ donors. As little as possible goes to waste.

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Old 04-25-2008, 12:26 PM   #4
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Yeah seems pretty gross to me. I was just wondering if you thought that his wishes to not have kids while he was alive are now void due to his death, does the surviving wife have the right to bring a child into this world absent the father and against his living wishes.
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:30 PM   #5
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well, does it count if you've already been cut?

imean, the big H anyways

and i'm an organ donor





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  Originally Posted by notoppings
Yeah seems pretty gross to me. I was just wondering if you thought that his wishes to not have kids while he was alive are now void due to his death, does the surviving wife have the right to bring a child into this world absent the father and against his living wishes.

well, i guess

but, i hope they realize that they would have to raise that kid on their own since they couldn't possibly get any support from the dead husband, unless he haunted her or something, and even then pretty difficult

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Old 04-25-2008, 12:33 PM   #6
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Do you think that she could sue the estate for support because she has a living heir?
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:38 PM   #7
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i wouldn't think so since it was her wish, and not the estates... probably not even her (late) husband
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Old 04-26-2008, 07:01 PM   #8
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That brings up all kinds of crazy thoughts.

What if you started a business where you sell famous people's sperm? You could mug them, shove a syringe into their nuts, grab some sperm, and then disappear. Sell the sperm on the black market. . .I think you could create a whole new industry.
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:33 AM   #9
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Hmmm....

Clinically extraction should take place within the first 24/hrs after death, but there have being extraction as far as 36/hrs.

Although unethical, I will have to say that if the person was someone I LOVED and had never had kids... and their parents always wished to have a little one I MAY Consider it...

But of course before taking such action I would have to sit down and think carefully... very carefully... for this will be a very personal decision which needs to be basedo on many aspects of my personal life. Considering also that it will be a child who will not have his father around, considering that if I do it will be my full responsability to support the child...

All in all if I was in a stable financial situation at the time, and all other aspects I must consider where in place there is less than 1% chance to do so... but 99.9% is NO.

That's just my personal view on the situation, of course if it actually did happen that would be a different story, but it has gone thru my mind a few times in my life for no specific reasons... except for those stories I have read

 

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Old 04-28-2008, 07:13 AM   #10
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  Originally Posted by PRBori
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All in all if I was in a stable financial situation at the time, and all other aspects I must consider where in place there is a 1% chance to do so... but 99.9% is NO.

actually, that would be .1%, which would be <1%

but yeah, that is unethical

and especially since the child wouldn't be made out of love, but for simple child-bearing reasons

how can a kid know his father loved him, but father wasn't even aware of him?

i think that would also kinda mess a kid up, wouldn't it?



"mom, how was i born?"

"well son, you father died and we extracted..."


i can see how that can go during Career Day though

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Old 04-28-2008, 07:23 AM   #11
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actually, that would be .1%, which would be <1%

but yeah, that is unethical

and especially since the child wouldn't be made out of love, but for simple child-bearing reasons

Actually, this is something that could have being arranged prior to the death as a consentual matter between the two parties who did LOVE each other at one time. Is similar to Vitro infertilization on my way of seing things..



 
how can a kid know his father loved him, but father wasn't even aware of him?

i think that would also kinda mess a kid up, wouldn't it?

"mom, how was i born?"

"well son, you father died and we extracted..."

I don't see much different between that and Vitro Fertilization where women just go to a Sperm bank in order to have kids using the sperm of someone they never met or knew in their life. I'm sure there are ways to deal with the kids as they get older, there are plenty of kids who are born without their fathers around.. no need to give too many details.

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Old 04-28-2008, 07:32 AM   #12
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but i think there is a difference in putting in an order for a certain specimen, or going to someone that had just passed on

it just seems cold to me is all
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Old 04-28-2008, 10:05 PM   #13
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The kid might not be up-to-snuff genetically speaking. The general purpose of making a hot load of sperm swim up through the woman's naughty bits is to weed out the sperms that are too weak to compete. If you just grab any old sperm at random you will get a random kid. No one wants a random kid.
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:32 PM   #14
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I think that would be an excellent idea. (:

Of course nothing beats genetically engineered super sperm though.
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Old 05-02-2008, 12:02 AM   #15
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you mean within 24 hrs?

and before rigor mortis sets in?

I would think it would be easier if you waited until it's stiff....
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Old 05-02-2008, 01:54 AM   #16
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  Originally Posted by Motor Jax
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you mean within 24 hrs?

and before rigor mortis sets in?





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actually, that would be kinda morbid

"hey, he JUST died. quick! his testicles!"

and in front of the widow too?

oh, that's hiliarious. I can see it happening.

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Old 05-03-2008, 03:13 AM   #17
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  Originally Posted by Claptonian
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I would think it would be easier if you waited until it's stiff....
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LOL nooo, that's taking the long way home, straight through the vas deferens would be simpler!

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Old 05-03-2008, 04:03 AM   #18
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I don't see a problem, provided the man in question has opted to allow his sperm to be saved, and to either be donated anonymously or to someone he knows.
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Old 05-04-2008, 05:55 PM   #19
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I don't see a problem, provided the man in question has opted to allow his sperm to be saved, and to either be donated anonymously or to someone he knows.

I was going to say the same thing. I think that harvesting the sperm under the condition that the man is an organ donor is a little misleading. There should be a second, separate option that specifically states that he is allowing his sperm to be harvested after his death. I imagine a lot of people would object to that whereas they would be fine with donating an organ, so it wouldn't really be fair to group the two together.

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Old 05-09-2008, 12:33 AM   #20
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Why would you want to harvest sperm from a dead man when there's so many live donor's around?

It's not like you're harvesting corneas or kidneys...
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:27 AM   #21
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Whenever I see the title of this thread I get the mental image of someone cutting off a dead guys testes, holding them upside down and shaking them until they are drained of cum.
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:37 AM   #22
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Why would you want to harvest sperm from a dead man when there's so many live donor's around?

It's not like you're harvesting corneas or kidneys...


i wouldn't mind though, just so i can spread my INFJness around


oh, and i give donations for free!


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Old 05-09-2008, 07:37 AM   #23
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i wouldn't mind though, just so i can spread my INFJness around


oh, and i give donations for free!


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Hey me too... If you're cute enough and disease free.

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