[rwyatt365]

This thought occurred to me as I was posting to a thread on masturbation; if you could change to the opposite sex would you? Have you ever thought about this as a possibility?

This thought came after reading posts to the effect of, "If I had a [blank] I would [blank], and I thought about how I wished that I was a girl when I was a child. I grew up as the middle child with two sisters. My father was a doctor (an ObGyn) who delivered babies all day and all night, and consequently was rarely home. My childhood was highly "feminized" and I got the impression that women were the natural state of things. Girl-stuff was the norm, boy-stuff was out of place. Girls were cool, boys were yucky. So, wanting to be a girl was "normal".

When I discovered that penis' were fun too, I didn't feel so bad (that's a pun folks). But I never completely got away from the nagging thought that girls had it better than guys. Yeah, I know about all of the trials and tribulations of femininity, but dammit, you ladies have a whole lot of perks that make up for some of that!

So, any other confused-gender people here?

Someone?

anyone?

please...

[DrEast]

I wouldn't ever want to be female. Far too much biological effort goes into reproduction.

[rwyatt365]

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	I wouldn't ever want to be female. Far too much biological effort goes into reproduction.

Yeah, but at the time (age 9-ish) I wasn't thinking about having babies. All I saw was lots of attention, brightly-colored clothes and the feel of cool, smooth silk-like underwear. All I got as a boy was being ignored, corduroy pants, and tighty-whities.
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[HeterodoxRobot]

Being a *girl* rocks. Being a *woman* sucks.

I have "battled" with the annoying aspects inherent to my sex and gender, since puberty. (Oh yeah, yay for menses!!!)

Estrogen is one heavy mother of a hormone and its effects gets in the way of things, namely clear thinking, lol, joke.

I've identified with boys/men my whole life and have always been somewhat of a tomboy. I definitely believe that guys have it a helluva lot easier than us gals. It seems, in general, that men are more capable of detaching themselves from people and are therefore more able to pursue their personal goals. It is difficult to care for the people you love while simultaneously focusing on accomplishing your dreams. I don't know...

Anyhow, if I were me but a guy, I think I would be unstoppable.

*sighs*

[rwyatt365]

I hear you Hetero, and sympathize as well. But Testosterone is a bitch too (how's that for and oxymoron?)! Sometimes it's dreadfully difficult to resist the urge to kick someone's ass just because they did something that started your blood to boil. Clear thinking when "the red mist" settles? I don't think so.

I wonder sometimes if the whole "male emotional detatchment" thing is more cultural and tempermental than it is gender-based. Hetero, you seem like a focused, driven individual, one not to be detoured by trivialities or foolishness. You seem to be pretty unstoppable right now IMHO.

[Taberculosis]

Hmmm I think being a chick is fine.

However, it's more socially acceptable for guys to sleep around that it is for girls. So I'd like to be a guy so I could fuck people and not get shit about it.

But...... I feel like having a penis would be annoying. Isn't it like always in the way?

[rwyatt365]

Nah, it's pretty handy the way it retracts when not in use.
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[Jgib5328]

Men have almost every advantage socially and have an easier time biologically. Why would I want to be a girl?

[TheLastMohican]

I certainly prefer being male. But then, the fact that I am male is probably what keeps me from wanting to be female. Just the thought of being female repels me (not that I have a problem with other people being females).

	Originally Posted by rwyatt365 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Hetero, you seem like a focused, driven individual, one not to be detoured by trivialities or foolishness. You seem to be pretty unstoppable right now IMHO.

She can be stopped only by me.
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(I'm way ahead of you all on my world domination plans.)

[thod]

Can i swap just for a day?

I have always wanted to know what a multiple orgasm feels like. My hand go straight down my pants.

[rwyatt365]

I have a theory that an intelligent, creative woman can get whatever she wants from any man by playing him like a fiddle. It goes way beyond batting eyelashes and showing cleavage - it's a game that some women have perfected to an artform.

The basic premise is that most (if not all) men will do just about anything for a shot at the vagoo (thanks ShaiGar for that word - my new fave). And a female that knows that, and uses that to her advantage can get anything that they want. I know it sounds crude, and it's my own theory, but I think that there is a body of evidence that stretches back to the first amoeba that got tired of unicellular division.

I personally also believe that men created this male-centric society simply as a response to that "fact" as a way to retain some semblance of power. If you girls had social, political, and financial dominance AND the "power of the vagoo" then where would us poor guys be? No! We would lose all of our self-respect were that to happen. So, we fought back and placed you ladies under subjection - knowing all along it's all a sham. We're like puppets on a string.

Just my opinion.

[HeterodoxRobot]

Sexually, I love being a girl. So yeah, no complaints in that department.

rwyatt, you crack me up!!!

I think it's Quut, when under the influence of testosterone, guys act all huffy and puffy and are reduced to their Neanderphallic ways, (harhar just made that up, stoopid).

My estrogen is my bestestwestest friend!!! Crying for no apparent reason, feeling an intense whirlwind of seemingly incongruent emotions, i.e., he loves me, I hate him, I'm
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, wanting to rip out your hair and scream, feeling the sudden need to verbally rip your SO to shreds because he doesn't understand your needs, caring too much, not caring at all, despair, puppies, thoughts of being pretty, fears of wretched age, oh, and having to deal with the psychological phenomenon of "I feel fat" days.

*sighs*

Yeah, estrogen rocks!!!

[Uytuun]

Well, the INTJ female unites best of both worlds, no?
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[HeterodoxRobot]

Originally Posted by rwyatt365 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I have a theory that an intelligent, creative woman can get whatever she wants from any man by playing him like a fiddle. It goes way beyond batting eyelashes and showing cleavage - it's a game that some women have perfected to an artform. The basic premise is that most (if not all) men will do just about anything for a shot at the vagoo (thanks ShaiGar for that word - my new fave). And a female that knows that, and uses that to her advantage can get anything that they want. I know it sounds crude, and it's my own theory, but I think that there is a body of evidence that stretches back to the first amoeba that got tired of unicellular division. I personally also believe that men created this male-centric society simply as a response to that "fact" as a way to retain some semblance of power. If you girls had social, political, and financial dominance AND the "power of the vagoo" then where would us poor guys be? No! We would lose all of our self-respect were that to happen. So, we fought back and placed you ladies under subjection - knowing all along it's all a sham. We're like puppets on a string. Just my opinion.

I agree with you one hundred percent and am thoroughly annoyed by my apparent inability to let myself do this.

If I wanted to I could "get" a lot from men, but, eh, I dunno I'm just not interested in "getting" things from them.

I wish I had the balls, harhar, to capitalize on what my physical attractiveness could bring but I just couldn't do it, which sucks because I don't see anything ethically wrong in doing this, but just so happen to have a personal preference not to.


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[rwyatt365]

In the words of the Mounds candy-bar commercial from back in the day, "Don't fight it, surrender..."
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[EsoteriEccentri]

My Dad did. I reckon my Dad is an INTP. She's the most amazing, intelligent and interesting person.
But she's not just female now, she's a lesbian!
So what?
Still an amazing person.
She just didn't feel comfortable in a male body, there's nothing wrong with that.

Of course, I don't call her "Dad" anymore. ^^

[rwyatt365]

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My estrogen is my bestestwestest friend!!! Crying for no apparent reason, feeling an intense whirlwind of seemingly incongruent emotions, i.e., he loves me, I hate him, I'm To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , I'm To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , wanting to rip out your hair and scream, feeling the sudden need to verbally rip your SO to shreds because he doesn't understand your needs, caring too much, not caring at all, despair, puppies, thoughts of being pretty, fears of wretched age, oh, and having to deal with the psychological phenomenon of "I feel fat" days. *sighs* Yeah, estrogen rocks!!!

I once had a g/f that was all of 95lbs soaking wet. I just stared at her incoherently when she said, "I'm not fat, am I?" ("Yeah, babe, your toenails are gettin' kinda chunky.")

[Mozzes]

I wouldn't be interested in changing gender, but I did try a thought experiment once where I attempted to imagine what it would be like for me to be female. Though, even imagining myself as female I couldn't manage to be attracted to males so I was a lesbian. I basically ended up where I am now sans beard and male reproductive parts.

Now that I mention it I wonder what the hell it is females see in us anyways.

[TheLastMohican]

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	Well, the INTJ female unites best of both worlds, no? To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Yep.
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[rwyatt365]

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I wouldn't be interested in changing gender, but I did try a thought experiment once where I attempted to imagine what it would be like for me to be female. Though, even imagining myself as female I couldn't manage to be attracted to males so I was a lesbian. I basically ended up where I am now sans beard and male reproductive parts. Now that I mention it I wonder what the hell it is females see in us anyways.

LOL

Yeah, other than the sex-thing I don't see much that's attractive about the prototypical male. That lean, muscular look is hard and angular and not terribly esthetically pleasing (at least, not to me, but I expect it wouldn't be).

Women, on the other hand, are smooth and curvilinear, with graceful flowing lines. Even women to either side of the "normal curve" retain those qualities, whereas a skinny guy or a plump guy become significantly less attractive on the whole (again, to me).

[Motor Jax]

i grew up totally a guy

ummm...

*trying to imagine being a chick*


well, i was raised on being male...

maybe, i'm not much help here



*tries to seance technique*

[Mozzes]

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LOL Yeah, other than the sex-thing I don't see much that's attractive about the prototypical male. That lean, muscular look is hard and angular and not terribly esthetically pleasing (at least, not to me, but I expect it wouldn't be). Women, on the other hand, are smooth and curvilinear, with graceful flowing lines. Even women to either side of the "normal curve" retain those qualities, whereas a skinny guy or a plump guy become significantly less attractive on the whole (again, to me).

I think it'd due to the way brains are wired. Why do you find women attractive? There's no good answer. You just do. So, why do women find men attractive? It's probably got something to do with 3.5 billion years of evolution.

[rwyatt365]

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	i grew up totally a guy ummm... *trying to imagine being a chick* well, i was raised on being male... maybe, i'm not much help here *tries to seance technique*

You want to be a female, you want to be a female, when I snap my fingers, you are Paris Hilton! *snap*
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[DrEast]

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	Nah, it's pretty handy the way it retracts when not in use. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

And yet, yes, it still manages to get in the way. A lot. Not necessarily literally, but metaphorically.

[HeterodoxRobot]

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	Now that I mention it I wonder what the hell it is females see in us anyways.

More than what's there I suppose.

*dons feminazi hat and steel toe boots*

It is odd, men are quite simple yet I find them puzzling. It's as if guys go out of their way to make things more complicated in their attempt to assure the most efficient way.
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And why must they be so stubborn? And obvious too!!! Men are the *worst* liars.

Men are frustrating creatures, lucky them we have this, like, um, biological imperative to like, um... mate, er, tolerate them.
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