[mobi]

I consider myself a just average learner. I usually take time to grasp the understanding but after that I can go well into depth than many people.

In general, do INTJs learn slower or faster than average?

[Zsych]

Depends on how the data is presented and level of interest (or utility found) in subject.

[Apathy]

I'm great with abstract information but retarded with concrete info.

[elizabeth lover]

i learn super fast. doesn't matter what it is.

memorization bores me, however.

[Macka]

I'm generally a quick study.

However, anything relating to rote memory I'll struggle with. For example, I was always terrible at geography and history, because I couldn't relate places/times to anything.

I'm not the person you want on your quiz team...

Abstract learning is a lot easier for me. I've also found I pick up sports and anything physical quite easily (dancing, learning to drive, etc).

[Smacknrat]

Chemistry or biology... OUT OF THE QUESTION! I'm only average here.

I'm quicker with items involving math. I'm guessing quickness is a function of familiarity?

[tp6626]

I'm not so fast when people are standing there 'explaining' something to me. 90% of the time I am not understanding what it is they're saying, but I'm nodding and agreeing with them all the while. Looking like I'm understanding.

If they ask me whether I understand, my "yes" answer typically means "No, but I've gleaned enough info & key-words from that to now go away and work out what it was you were trying to explain to me".

If I answer "no" to that, then that means that their explanation was diabolical, to the point of me not even being confident of being able to go away and work out what they were saying. Not even enough to get a handle on it.

It's rare I understand something explained to me right away. If I do it's either because (a) the person explaining it is wise & fantastic at explaining difficult things, or (b) the information is so trivial or simple that I catch on right away (though mostly if that's the case I wouldn't have even been in the situation of being told that info).

When I'm put on the spot to take something in quickly by someone, it doesn't work at all. However when I work independently to assimilate information, I'm sure it goes in a lot quicker, and with a much deeper level of understanding than with most people.

[jm123]

I would say I tend to be slow to average on most things and then roll down hill once I get an understanding of the macro-principles. Once that happens watch out, as I will jump from mediocrity to top of the class in a few days. It is quite funny, as I do have the reputation of being rather intelligent, and sometimes I will struggle with a basic thing as it is not explained rationally or logically. I get that you must be book smart and not street smart stare. Until I rationalize my point of view, and then I get the you just made that up, as no one could possibly dissect that problem at that level that quickly.

It is rather frustrating as I can rationalize with the very best. However, school is not about thinking, it is about regurgitating the info the teacher desires you to regurgitate even if they write a test question poorly.

[True Rune]

Not always. Sometimes I miss important directions and I'm just left there confused. But listening to lectures and learning theories, yeah. I enjoy that stuff so I get excited and pick it up quickly.

[Jamo]

What happens with me is this: Someone tells me something and I either - get it right away or it just goes in one ear and out the other. It depends on how the info is given to me. So if something is given to me in a way I could understand then I am a very fast learner.

I guess I don't "progressively" learn. A lot of my friends slowly start to understand things, there is no real "I get it" moment, which is something I honestly don't understand.

[karenann33]

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I would say I tend to be slow to average on most things and then roll down hill once I get an understanding of the macro-principles. Once that happens watch out, as I will jump from mediocrity to top of the class in a few days. It is quite funny, as I do have the reputation of being rather intelligent, and sometimes I will struggle with a basic thing as it is not explained rationally or logically. I get that you must be book smart and not street smart stare. Until I rationalize my point of view, and then I get the you just made that up, as no one could possibly dissect that problem at that level that quickly. It is rather frustrating as I can rationalize with the very best. However, school is not about thinking, it is about regurgitating the info the teacher desires you to regurgitate even if they write a test question poorly.

I'm this way. In college I had to break my habit of wanting to understand things because again many professors just want you to give it back the way THEY want it. They could care less if you actually understand it. So I memorized and let it go. I flunked my first psychology exam in college because I actually studied the notes (he said to do that). Then I see in the test that he liked to mess with people and test 100% from the BOOK. After that I didn't even bother to take notes. I memorized the chapters the night before the test. Went from an F to the highest grade in the class.

[ZerroDefex]

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I would say I tend to be slow to average on most things and then roll down hill once I get an understanding of the macro-principles. Once that happens watch out, as I will jump from mediocrity to top of the class in a few days. It is quite funny, as I do have the reputation of being rather intelligent, and sometimes I will struggle with a basic thing as it is not explained rationally or logically.

I have a similar issue. Sometimes I get something right away only to find later that I made the wrong assumptions and have been doing things wrong and now have to unlearn/relearn it. It's one of the main reason I hate classes that give only problems that have no solutions in the back of the book or the solutions manual, by the time I get the homework back and graded I find out I've been doing things wrong for a week and already have made a new bad habit. Hence why I prefer classes that don't collect homework and just choose problems myself to practice from the solutions manual so I can see right away if I did things right.

After a few years of that in college I learned to resist the urge to run off to the races and gather more info before beginning to work on the problem. I tend to be more of a big picture thinker and once I have all the critical pieces something clicks and then I'll start tearing through barriers that were previously stopping me. My advisor found this out during an undergrad research project where for the first few weeks I struggled with some of the theory that he wanted me to understand before giving me the real meat of the project. Finally he gave me the rest of the info (rather than waiting another week for me to figure it out myself) and was surprised at the sheer volume of work I got done in the following few days as I finally had the key that allowed me to make a breakthrough. Despite the month-long delay I finished the project ahead of schedule and got more done than had been expected of me.

[TrailBlazer]

How fast i learn, is entirely dependant on my focus and or interest in the subject. However I am extremely adept at adapting to fit new situations, i never approach questions in the same way twice, keeps me 'on edge' helps me focus and figure new ways to do old things.

[Facepalm]

I know what someone is saying before their finish a sentence and will often finish it for them. I grasp everything quickly from physiology to physics.

However when people talk about feelings etc I tune out instantly..

[Paul Siraisi]

Agree, comparatively slow, but deep. The depth pays off when we already know stuff that faster learners still have to hurry up and learn.

[GouldFan]

Depends on the subject. Lot of times, I learn fast and forget fast.
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Understanding things doesn't always lead to long term memory and I often get frustrated about that. When I learn facts, somehow I integrate it and make it into abstract images or ideas (by then I forget most of details). It's good for intuiting and coming up with new ideas, but not for other things.

For subjects that I dislike, I am about average terms of learning.

[Artio]

I'm extremely visual and I know how to study so most of the time I'm able to learn fast. On the other hand I hate details and learning by heart. If I have to listen and learn, it's just hopeless unless I can write it down.

If I weren't interested I find it hard to concentrate and start to feel exhausted or frustrated soon. If opposite, I can go on for hours.

If I'm learning for fun I get distracted easily. So I associate freely and soon find myself gathering information about something else that I started with.

[plushbug]

Relatively slow to learn--slow enough, to have dangerously frustrated many extravert teachers in my time--and seem to need either lots of visual cues to what I'm learning, or to be hands-on engaged in working with it, to achieve anything like quick or thorough absorption. Listening to others describe, or watching demonstrations, will normally put me to sleep in short order, and when it comes to staying even remotely focused during presentations of abstract theory, I'm sunk.

[Ben12]

I feel like I can't simple things as fast as the average person.

However, I can learn complex things at a deep level much quicker than the average person.

I just feel like there's a void when I try to learn something without learning the "why", "how", etc.

[Malsqueek]

If it's something fascinating (useful or not), I'm voracious for knowledge.

Otherwise, I do a great job of easily getting "enough" information to get the job done, and move my efforts elsewhere.

[soleilune]

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	Depends on how the data is presented and level of interest (or utility found) in subject.

Agreed. I'm almost incapable of learning something I find useless or uninteresting. The rest of the time I'm a hands on learner. Don't yak at me, cut me loose to work it out for myself.

[El Cas]

I have always been able to learn things quickly (as long as they interested me and required no memorization). Even with sports, I can pick up the concept and the procedure to accomplish it (i.e. placement of body, sequence of movements, etc).

The one thing I have noticed is that as quickly as I learn something I forget it just as quickly unless I am constantly using it.

[Ava Adore]

If it's in black and white and/or has one answer, then I'm a quick learner. I must understand it, then I've got it instantly. If it's not as clear, as in there could be more than one answer, I may not grasp the concept as quickly.

[sircockburn]

I think they are. You can thank the strong Te.

[Aerie]

I'm a fairly quick learner, but like others if I'm not interested, I'm not going to really put much focus and attention to it, so I'd be an average learner with things like that.