"Fitting into society"

**Harvest** · 09-29-2010, 05:49 AM

Don't try it, you as an INTJ will do it wrong anyway.
That's all I wanted to say.
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**elizabeth lover** · 09-29-2010, 06:48 AM

i might do it right if i get boozed up first.

**onyxandsilver** · 10-02-2010, 11:54 PM

I think that regardless, if the INTJ makes us introverted, we should try to outreach to others. However, I don't think we should fit ourselves or people in general, into society's ideals... I suppose, that was a too serious commentary for a joking post.

**dyankov** · 10-03-2010, 04:01 AM

yes, booze works. Sadly, I rarely drink..

**Samoan Corleone** · 10-03-2010, 04:09 AM

There are certain groups of society I fit into and some I don't. It's the same way for supposedly normal people who aren't INTJs.

I don't drink as much as I used to. In my earlier years of drinking (17-19) I was hangover proof, whereas now (I'm 20) they're more frequent and increasingly severe. Old age sucks.

**sds** · 10-03-2010, 05:21 AM

I'm good at fitting in. The problem is when I get comfortable I let my guard down and my true self comes out. That's when people start to turn away. It's exhausting being on guard 24/7 and I don't care that much. However, I do understand the importance of networking (especially in the Animal Science field) and therefore, I know I have to make the effort.

**maru** · 10-03-2010, 06:17 AM

Why do you have to be against the way society is? It would be a better idea to do your part to change it so others like you have an easier time fitting it.

**Savagelight** · 10-03-2010, 06:47 AM

Society needs you more than you need society, unless you are old, sick, etc.

And I'm fine with contributing to society, if there is incentives and rewards for doing so.

As far as fitting in, I don't care enough about society to try to fit into it any more than absolutely necessary. I don't accept cultural norms unless I don't have any better option.

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	Originally Posted by maru To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Why do you have to be against the way society is? It would be a better idea to do your part to change it so others like you have an easier time fitting it.

Society cannot be changed, only individuals can be changed.

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	Originally Posted by Samoan Corleone To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	There are certain groups of society I fit into and some I don't. It's the same way for supposedly normal people who aren't INTJs. I don't drink as much as I used to. In my earlier years of drinking (17-19) I was hangover proof, whereas now (I'm 20) they're more frequent and increasingly severe. Old age sucks.

Thats why I quit drinking.

**ZincLysine** · 10-03-2010, 10:54 AM

I don't fit in with UK society. If it was within my power, I would leave and go elsewhere where I know I would. I cannot meet people who would like or respect a person like me here.

I just be the best person I can be. I think that annoys everyone else. The weak people.

**Optimaler** · 10-03-2010, 11:18 AM

Even more applicable, don't try to fit in with sub-societies. Nine times out of ten I find out I fit in better with people who are twenty years older than me because they're more inclined to actually listen to me, as opposed to my peers.

Still, don't try to fit in. Actually, just make every body else conform to INTJ society. Then there's no need to fit in. XD

**ZincLysine** · 10-03-2010, 11:24 AM

	Originally Posted by Optimaler To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Even more applicable, don't try to fit in with sub-societies. Nine times out of ten I find out I fit in better with people who are twenty years older than me because they're more inclined to actually listen to me, as opposed to my peers. Still, don't try to fit in. Actually, just make every body else conform to INTJ society. Then there's no need to fit in. XD

I find most INTJs are difficult to get on with anyway.

**karenann33** · 10-03-2010, 05:41 PM

If I had it my way and was say comfortable in the outdoors I'd do great living in the middle of nowhere. I've officially quit trying to fit in. I did it for a while but it came at a high cost (headaches, weight gain, etc.) so I quit.

**sadf** · 10-03-2010, 05:46 PM

	Originally Posted by Harvest To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Don't try it, you as an INTJ will do it wrong anyway. That's all I wanted to say. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I used to be good at it! Now, not so much. I keep trying but it always ends with an epic fail.
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**Slowandeasy1** · 10-03-2010, 05:47 PM

	Originally Posted by Harvest To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Don't try it, you as an INTJ will do it wrong anyway. That's all I wanted to say. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

In my experience, society simply wants a contribution from a knowledgable, skilled and experienced individual. INTJ's are great at these three things - once they find out what they are passionate about.

Getting rewarded for their contribution - now that's a different story - depending on what you consider adequate compensation is.

**elizabeth lover** · 10-04-2010, 07:37 AM

I honestly haven't tried to fit in since I was probably 15. I just doesn't matter to me, like it doesn't matter if anyone gets my jokes, it just really pleases me when it happens.

**HiddenLevels** · 10-04-2010, 12:10 PM

	Originally Posted by Slowandeasy1 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	In my experience, society simply wants a contribution from a knowledgable, skilled and experienced individual. INTJ's are great at these three things - once they find out what they are passionate about. Getting rewarded for their contribution - now that's a different story - depending on what you consider adequate compensation is.

Yep it's finding that passion that's the tricky part!!!

**Samoan Corleone** · 10-04-2010, 05:02 PM

	Originally Posted by Savagelight To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Thats why I quit drinking.

Very good. Most of us spent our childhoods getting by just fine without alcohol, so I don't get why we're reliant on it now.

**Margaret32** · 10-04-2010, 08:01 PM

I have never felt like I "fit in." I think differently, think faster, live in my head, am an extreme introvert...I love hanging out in the woods with the trees. With my friends I prefer one on one. With more people I get overwhelmed.

**PowerMuffin** · 10-07-2010, 01:37 AM

I only fit in enough so people don't annoy me. I used to have blue hair & was very bubbly when happy in personality. I am still boisterous when out with my inner circle, just not strangers. Now I have normal colored hair, look normal, have a boyfriend which seems normal even though he is FAR from it. But luckily he looks it. When I had blue hair I was very happy because it was my favorite color. More people in the North I noticed have bright colored hair, here in the South it's a bit of a faux pas. Sometimes I run into people with purple hair or black blue hair though, or fire engine red.

I just like to blend in enough to go unnoticed. *invisibility ON*
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**True Rune** · 10-07-2010, 01:55 AM

I'm a master at tetris, I don't know what you're on about.

**LifesEcstasy** · 10-07-2010, 02:47 AM

	Originally Posted by Harvest To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Don't try it, you as an INTJ will do it wrong anyway. That's all I wanted to say. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

This statement makes the assumption that a desire to do so exists. You know what they say about assumptions...

**Kuzya** · 10-07-2010, 05:30 AM

Yeah, I have this terrible moral dilemma most of the time, particularly at work, because the only way I can get through the day with lots of people around is be so aloof that it sometimes borders on rudenss. But I feel aweful for being this aloof most of the time, but I just have no other option. Like today a customer I was serving mentioned that I didn't say please when asking if he had extra change to even out the amount and I keep feeling bad about it - was he just in a bad mood or do I really seem rude most of the time? Where do I draw the line?

**HKF** · 10-07-2010, 06:12 AM

Fitting into society. It's like fitting a square-shaped peg into a circular hole... It's doable but painful - you need to saw off your sharp-edges.

I remain as a happy square-shaped peg though once in a while, I doubt myself. Otherwise, square is good.

**dmark5659** · 10-07-2010, 06:24 AM

Screw fitting in. Life is too short to care about what 'they' think or worry about fitting in with people who you don't give a damn about anyway.

That's my opinion anyway. And I'm NOT an INTJ, but I still don't much care about anyone's opinion but my own, and perhaps a few (count them on one hand) special people whose opinions I value.

**sage33** · 10-10-2010, 02:28 PM

"Blending in" is the best way to go!

09-29-2010, 05:49 AM	#1
Harvest Member [02%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 92	Don't try it, you as an INTJ will do it wrong anyway. That's all I wanted to say. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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09-29-2010, 06:48 AM	#2
elizabeth lover Banned MBTI: intj Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 804	i might do it right if i get boozed up first.
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10-02-2010, 11:54 PM	#3
onyxandsilver New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 9	I think that regardless, if the INTJ makes us introverted, we should try to outreach to others. However, I don't think we should fit ourselves or people in general, into society's ideals... I suppose, that was a too serious commentary for a joking post.
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10-03-2010, 04:01 AM	#4
dyankov New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 73	yes, booze works. Sadly, I rarely drink..
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10-03-2010, 04:09 AM	#5
Samoan Corleone Core Member [151%] MBTI: INxJ Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6,078	There are certain groups of society I fit into and some I don't. It's the same way for supposedly normal people who aren't INTJs. I don't drink as much as I used to. In my earlier years of drinking (17-19) I was hangover proof, whereas now (I'm 20) they're more frequent and increasingly severe. Old age sucks.
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10-03-2010, 05:21 AM	#6
sds Member [02%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 87	I'm good at fitting in. The problem is when I get comfortable I let my guard down and my true self comes out. That's when people start to turn away. It's exhausting being on guard 24/7 and I don't care that much. However, I do understand the importance of networking (especially in the Animal Science field) and therefore, I know I have to make the effort.
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10-03-2010, 06:17 AM	#7
maru Member [06%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 260	Why do you have to be against the way society is? It would be a better idea to do your part to change it so others like you have an easier time fitting it.
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10-03-2010, 10:54 AM	#9
ZincLysine Member [27%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,111	I don't fit in with UK society. If it was within my power, I would leave and go elsewhere where I know I would. I cannot meet people who would like or respect a person like me here. I just be the best person I can be. I think that annoys everyone else. The weak people.
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10-03-2010, 11:18 AM	#10
Optimaler New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 71	Even more applicable, don't try to fit in with sub-societies. Nine times out of ten I find out I fit in better with people who are twenty years older than me because they're more inclined to actually listen to me, as opposed to my peers. Still, don't try to fit in. Actually, just make every body else conform to INTJ society. Then there's no need to fit in. XD
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10-03-2010, 05:41 PM	#12
karenann33 Member [31%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,278	If I had it my way and was say comfortable in the outdoors I'd do great living in the middle of nowhere. I've officially quit trying to fit in. I did it for a while but it came at a high cost (headaches, weight gain, etc.) so I quit.
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10-04-2010, 07:37 AM	#15
elizabeth lover Banned MBTI: intj Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 804	I honestly haven't tried to fit in since I was probably 15. I just doesn't matter to me, like it doesn't matter if anyone gets my jokes, it just really pleases me when it happens.
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10-04-2010, 08:01 PM	#18
Margaret32 New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 53	I have never felt like I "fit in." I think differently, think faster, live in my head, am an extreme introvert...I love hanging out in the woods with the trees. With my friends I prefer one on one. With more people I get overwhelmed.
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10-07-2010, 01:37 AM	#19
PowerMuffin New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 60	I only fit in enough so people don't annoy me. I used to have blue hair & was very bubbly when happy in personality. I am still boisterous when out with my inner circle, just not strangers. Now I have normal colored hair, look normal, have a boyfriend which seems normal even though he is FAR from it. But luckily he looks it. When I had blue hair I was very happy because it was my favorite color. More people in the North I noticed have bright colored hair, here in the South it's a bit of a faux pas. Sometimes I run into people with purple hair or black blue hair though, or fire engine red. I just like to blend in enough to go unnoticed. invisibility ON To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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10-07-2010, 01:55 AM	#20
True Rune Core Member [200%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 8,033	I'm a master at tetris, I don't know what you're on about.
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10-07-2010, 05:30 AM	#22
Kuzya Member [02%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 115	Yeah, I have this terrible moral dilemma most of the time, particularly at work, because the only way I can get through the day with lots of people around is be so aloof that it sometimes borders on rudenss. But I feel aweful for being this aloof most of the time, but I just have no other option. Like today a customer I was serving mentioned that I didn't say please when asking if he had extra change to even out the amount and I keep feeling bad about it - was he just in a bad mood or do I really seem rude most of the time? Where do I draw the line?
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10-07-2010, 06:12 AM	#23
HKF New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 74	Fitting into society. It's like fitting a square-shaped peg into a circular hole... It's doable but painful - you need to saw off your sharp-edges. I remain as a happy square-shaped peg though once in a while, I doubt myself. Otherwise, square is good.
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10-07-2010, 06:24 AM	#24
dmark5659 Member [02%] MBTI: INFP Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 95	Screw fitting in. Life is too short to care about what 'they' think or worry about fitting in with people who you don't give a damn about anyway. That's my opinion anyway. And I'm NOT an INTJ, but I still don't much care about anyone's opinion but my own, and perhaps a few (count them on one hand) special people whose opinions I value.
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10-10-2010, 02:28 PM	#25
sage33 Member [05%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 202	"Blending in" is the best way to go!
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