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Are folks actually crazy? or do they lack mental filters? neuroscience
Old 08-29-2010, 09:20 PM   #1
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For a while now, I have been a psych head (that was not my major, hehehe). Not by choice, more by default. I have always studied human behavior very closely blah blah blah...getting to the point...

My experiences have led me to the possibility that "crazy" people (for lack of a shorter term) may just through birth, negative or traumatic experiences be either born without, or lose thru trauma, the necessary filters that help "typical" folks focus, cope etc...something like the equivalent to turning on the radio and hearing many stations at once vs. u being able to select ONE station.

The same can probably be said in terms of the common belief that we use only 10 percent of our brain. One time, on a visit to my very eccentric foulmouthed Parisian neurologist (I was a chronic migraine sufferer until I taught myself the piano-MUSIC THERAPY CAN WORK, FOLKS!), he randomly posed this question to me- "So scientists say we use only ten percent of our brains. What do you think?"


If we used only ten percent of our brain, shouldn't it be 90% smaller? If we did not have mental walls, gates, etc. in this labyrinth we'd prob explode from all the energy that would be spent "keeping the lights on and focusing on all these lights at once whilst running marathons and solving quadratic equations..."

Because common science has not mapped out all the fuctions and still has a miles high pile of unanswered questions concerning brain functionality and conscience (which can "leave and return" to us), we are perceived to be limited to theories alone. The reality is the mind and consciousness are at the very least "boundless".
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Old 08-29-2010, 09:37 PM   #2
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I agree. If we used 10% of our brain, our brain 'should' be 90% smaller. Considering the fact that we evolved, etc. Why would our brain have evolved to such size when we clearly did not need it? My opinion, people who study the Human Brain and it's mapping, obviously haven't experienced 90% of the brain.

Some thing as complex as the Human Brain, shouldn't so easily be figured out.

As for the rest, you'll need to wait for someone who also studies Human behavior etc. Very interesting to read too.

 

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Old 08-29-2010, 09:55 PM   #3
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My experiences have led me to the possibility that "crazy" people (for lack of a shorter term) may just through birth, negative or traumatic experiences be either born without, or lose thru trauma, the necessary filters that help "typical" folks focus, cope etc...something like the equivalent to turning on the radio and hearing many stations at once vs. u being able to select ONE station.

No, that's not all there is to it. Brains are malleable, subject to physical laws, later stimuli or a predisposing malfunctional arrangement of the substances occurs that we sometimes use the descriptor crazy to refer to the resultant misbehaviour of. Sometimes people is just inclined to the craziness, nothing to cope with.

What would an example of these filters you speak of be? Doesn't seem any other animals need what I think you mean by them to keep from being crazy, so where did they come from? It doesn't seem that there's no madness in the air that we need to insulate ourselves from.

Unless by chance you mean e.g. the general populace going out of its way to throw bitch fits over so many nonissues, in which case, although that's not what others call crazy (in fact it's the type of mind that is most animalistic / reproductively successful), yes, the populace does indeed lack a filtration system (biological mind / soul) needed to not get needlessly flustered and end up inducing strife over nothing over and over again throughout all of history like it does because this species is, as a matter of reproductive success, largely comprised of glorified chimpanzees just innately looking for an excuse to break from the memes and maul others or conduct the human equivalent of flinging poo at them since they lack the mental capacity to tell that that isn't a decent thing to do or a filter to know better than to go out of their fucking way to be the initiators generating negativity. No filter to let them know what to mind their own fucking business about as if these idiot subhuman have the right to impose themselves in others lives until they get perforated like the vermin they are should.

 

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Old 08-29-2010, 11:13 PM   #4
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Because common science has not mapped out all the fuctions and still has a miles high pile of unanswered questions concerning brain functionality and conscience (which can "leave and return" to us), we are perceived to be limited to theories alone. The reality is the mind and consciousness are at the very least "boundless".

Grey - Consciousness: Creeping up on the hard problem.

I haven't read this book but someone I was talking to said that the authors conclusion was that consciousness was a last ditch effort for the organism to realise that he was in danger of being eaten, kind of like intuition. Imagine you are walking along, there are tiger prints in the dirt and other signs, but you just don't notice them, then you have this experience of self consciousness as a wakeup call that you are in danger. So those with more consciousness survive more and reproduce.

The guy I was talking to also said that they think consciousness and art (like cave paintings) came about at the same time in pre history, when man was conscious about what he wanted from nature - food, yay! bison, antelope, meat!

Metzinger is a German neuroscientist, from one of his seminars he posits that consciousness in a temporary model thrown up by the brain at a certain time to carry out a certain fuction. For a lot of your actions in life you don't really need a high level of consciouness, like washing dishes etc.

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Old 08-30-2010, 04:15 AM   #5
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We use more of our brain than 10%. People with brain injuries tend to have problems which prove this point depending on the area of the injury. As for crazy people, there are many different reasons for it. Some has to do with mental filtering. Some has to do with perception, ie they're all out to get me!
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Old 08-30-2010, 05:44 AM   #6
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I would say that some people are mis-prioritizing certain mental functions and how much focus to put on certain things, along with what to filter.
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:06 PM   #7
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The 10% brain thing is total crap. Hard to believe that urban myth survived the MRI.

Lack of appropriate filters is definitely one of the causes of crazy, if we're going completely layman here. Not the only cause, by any means, but definitely one of them.
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:15 PM   #8
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I agree. If we used 10% of our brain, our brain 'should' be 90% smaller.

Or perhaps it'll end up more like the tonsils and appendix, which were once thought to be pointless -- until we figured out there actually was a point.

Do we really know that 90% of our brain isn't used for something? Or is it just that we don't know what it's used for...yet?

As for "crazy" lots of things can cause that. Many are purely physical, and some purely environmental to boot. I know personally of two cases of bipolar that went away quite magically when food sensitivities were discovered and dealt with. Naturally that doesn't mean all bipoloar disorder is connected to inappropriate reactions to harmless things in the environment, but it does suggest that at least some "crazy" can be caused by a lot of things about brain chemistry we simply don't understand (yet).

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Old 08-30-2010, 03:29 PM   #9
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There have been studies, not sure if they were peer-reviewed, that stated that more brain synapses fire when someone has a "spiritual experience." I suppose that, if it were true, that the other 90% of the brain is reserved for instances not limited to life on this planet.
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:58 PM   #10
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Exactly. Lots of things can cause chemical imbalances in the brain.
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Old 08-31-2010, 04:15 PM   #11
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  Originally Posted by Galactica
My experiences have led me to the possibility that "crazy" people (for lack of a shorter term) may just through birth, negative or traumatic experiences be either born without, or lose thru trauma, the necessary filters that help "typical" folks focus, cope etc.

  Originally Posted by Zombicide
What would an example of these filters you speak of be? Doesn't seem any other animals need what I think you mean by them to keep from being crazy, so where did they come from? It doesn't seem that there's no madness in the air that we need to insulate ourselves from.

Re: Filters and the type

In the community that views reality as a data stream in a virtual reality, the speculation was that the 'crazy' person was receiving lots of signals at once to their brain to the point that they couldn't discern any single one and as a consequence mixed them all up.

An analogy would be a TV that gets several stations at once on it's screen and someone watching it most likely couldn't tell any one thing from what they were watching or hearing.

The type of filter is a matter on what one's consciousness/awareness is focused on, your local environment or say a remote environment as a remote viewer would do.

As a member of that community, the speculation seems more than just reasonable to me.

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