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Old 05-12-2010, 01:23 AM   #51
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  Originally Posted by LifeWellWasted
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For those who are unaware, the question was loaded. The stereotypical INTJ apparently harbors a bland sense of fashion (apparently, including women ). From the answers given, I was a bit curious if there was somewhat of a hypocritical stance taken towards how fashionable the women are (or lack thereof), and how they envision their potential mate to be.
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I do have one question for the intjF biomass; I work in a warehouse to fund my schooling. Every day of the week I work I wear . Is it acceptable to wear both black socks/black belt, and white socks/brown belt with these shoes given they fade from black to white? Originally, I had the white lattice/gold sole variant but bought these replacement colour scheme in hopes that I would have more flexibility in my color coordination. Thanks in advance.

Well, it depends on which INTJ profile you read but there are a few out there talking about how INTJs are into good design, especially when form fits function. So it shouldn't be a huge stretch that some enjoy fashion. Enjoying fashion to me is not the same as automatically assuming the best is the most expensive, going only for brand name labels, or judging people solely based on what they wear. So with the latter in mind, I expect neatness and appropriateness from my potential mates, most of whom have been the T-shirts/ jeans casual type of guys who knows that you need to wear a suit sometimes for work/ important events.

In terms of your shoes, if you're working in a warehouse, my first thought would be function and comfort rather than worrying about matching. I think you can do either combo but if we're going to be nit-picky here, I actually don't like the design of this shoe - the neon green stripes do nothing for me. Better to pick some basic colored shoe -black/white/ grey/ brown. In my prior position, I worked with the public a lot in an authoritative role so I needed to dress somewhat to their expectations other than just my own. Are you working with the public/ customers? What type of customers? Think also about your superiors and peers. If you dressed a certain way, would that make them feel uncomfortable? Are these shoes strictly for work or do you wear them for other purposes also?

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Old 05-12-2010, 12:17 PM   #52
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  Originally Posted by LifeWellWasted
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For those who are unaware, the question was loaded. The stereotypical INTJ apparently harbors a bland sense of fashion (apparently, including women ). From the answers given, I was a bit curious if there was somewhat of a hypocritical stance taken towards how fashionable the women are (or lack thereof), and how they envision their potential mate to be.

Loaded in the sense that you projected "fashion-obsessed" onto INTJ females in this thread or loaded in the sense that the question was proposed to bait a particular response?


To point this out, just because a woman knows what kind of style she likes in a man doesn't me she absolutely requires potential mates to dress in that style. This is a thread about preferences, and I wouldn't consider having a preference different from yourself hypocritical. For example, many INTJs are attracted to extroverts. And I might prefer my men tall, dark, and beefy, but that doesn't mean I'm tall, dark, and beefy myself.


No idea on your shoes question. I need to see the whole ensemble, and I like to break the rules of fashion anyway.

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Old 05-12-2010, 12:28 PM   #53
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  Originally Posted by LifeWellWasted
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Is it acceptable to wear both black socks/black belt, and white socks/brown belt with these shoes given they fade from black to white?

Since there's no brown in the shoe, I would avoid a brown belt. Black socks and black belt, or white socks should be fine.

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Old 05-12-2010, 08:03 PM   #54
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  Originally Posted by TigerL
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Well, it depends on which INTJ profile you read but there are a few out there talking about how INTJs are into good design, especially when form fits function. So it shouldn't be a huge stretch that some enjoy fashion. Enjoying fashion to me is not the same as automatically assuming the best is the most expensive, going only for brand name labels, or judging people solely based on what they wear. So with the latter in mind, I expect neatness and appropriateness from my potential mates, most of whom have been the T-shirts/ jeans casual type of guys who knows that you need to wear a suit sometimes for work/ important events.

This is exactly what I was trying to find out. I parsed the word stereotypical because I couldn't believe it applied to everyone. So now it was just a matter of how pervasive the apparent blandness was. I was curious because I am fond of unique, albeit functional clothing. Although I tend to stick with simple clothing, I personally have many loud shirts.

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In terms of your shoes, if you're working in a warehouse, my first thought would be function and comfort rather than worrying about matching. I think you can do either combo but if we're going to be nit-picky here, I actually don't like the design of this shoe - the neon green stripes do nothing for me. Better to pick some basic colored shoe -black/white/ grey/ brown. In my prior position, I worked with the public a lot in an authoritative role so I needed to dress somewhat to their expectations other than just my own. Are you working with the public/ customers? What type of customers? Think also about your superiors and peers. If you dressed a certain way, would that make them feel uncomfortable? Are these shoes strictly for work or do you wear them for other purposes also?

I work at a furniture store. It would be sensible to wear steel toe boots (especially after breaking a few toes), but running shoes are so much nicer; this is especially the case if you end up having to deliver. As for the neon stripe, it will most likely fade soon enough. I can get a good three months out of my shoes before having to replace them. This will most likely go down to two when I start my clinicals on top of my job. As I found out, white shoes don't do well in a warehouse setting, they soon become grey shoes from all of the dust. I might end up going back to a darker shoe.

I do work with customers on a daily basis. When I did deliver full time, it was obviously very personal as I was in their most intimate environment, their house. However, given my profession, I imagine they don't expect much as I am in manual labor. So in many ways I probably exceed their expectations; I dress in clean clothes, am usually clean shaven, and have very good hygiene habits.

The shoes themselves are mainly for work. As you can imagine, my body takes quite a beating. On a good day, I would say I lift a little under 6,000 lbs. I have had a delivery day where that number was pushing 20,000. Boots provide ankle stability, but not much in the way of cushion.

They also serve as a pair of backup running shoes. I trail running when the weather permits, and have a pair of shoes specifically for that activity. But if the weeds are getting a little too high, or it is a little too hot and I run the risk of having a rattlesnake bite me in the ass I will run in town with the Kswiss.

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  Originally Posted by fwiffo
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Loaded in the sense that you projected "fashion-obsessed" onto INTJ females in this thread or loaded in the sense that the question was proposed to bait a particular response?

No need to become hostile. Yes, it was baiting in a way (I did get a few hits didn't I). The term, however, was meant to be taken, sarcastically. I am focused on stereotypes after all.

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To point this out, just because a woman knows what kind of style she likes in a man doesn't me she absolutely requires potential mates to dress in that style. This is a thread about preferences, and I wouldn't consider having a preference different from yourself hypocritical. For example, many INTJs are attracted to extroverts. And I might prefer my men tall, dark, and beefy, but that doesn't mean I'm tall, dark, and beefy myself.

Having a different preference is not what is hypocritical, holding yourself to different standard than your mate, is. Apparently this is not the case.

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No idea on your shoes question. I need to see the whole ensemble, and I like to break the rules of fashion anyway.

I believe I found the answer. No need to hijack this thread any longer.

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