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Old 03-25-2008, 07:42 PM   #1
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I'm a Centrist on the Liberal-Conservative spectrum (leaning towards liberalism) and Libertarian. I'm wondering if INTJs are similar on their take on politics? I hope you're all ok with the poll being public. I realize that the spectrum is 3D, so there might be some 'mixes', hence the option to choose more than once.


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Old 03-25-2008, 07:51 PM   #2
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I do not have allegiance to any party, and if they changed, my voting pattern would reflect it.

I think based on what is best for the economy and therefore the populace. I think government serves to protect our basic human rights, mantain order, and keep up an infrastructure. Besides that, I see nothing as absolutely necessary. I also prefer to pare down the scope of the government so it does not overstep its bounds or sprawl outside of its area of functional purpose.

I could be considered a Libertarian with fairly strong conservative leanings. I do however disagree with plenty of conservative ideas, mostly those that involve the unnecessary expansion of government and intrusion upon the citizens by the passage of overbearing laws.

I think the best way to define how government should make its decisions is that it should do whatever is best for the economy, with a special consideration for human rights. (Legalizing professional hitmen would eliminate the economic inefficiency, but violate human rights.)
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Old 03-25-2008, 07:52 PM   #3
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Old 03-25-2008, 07:54 PM   #4
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I think based on what is best for the economy and therefore the populace. I think government serves to protect our basic human rights, mantain order, and keep up an infrastructure. Besides that, I see nothing as absolutely necessary. I also prefer to pare down the scope of the government so it does not overstep its bounds or sprawl outside of its area of functional purpose.

I've always read that the 'whatever-works' take on politics fit in the Centrist area.

 
Centrists espouse a "middle ground" regarding government control of the economy and personal behavior. Depending on the issue, they sometimes favor government intervention and sometimes support individual freedom of choice. Centrists pride themselves on keeping an open mind, tend to oppose "political extremes," and emphasize what they describe as "practical" solutions to problems.

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Old 03-25-2008, 07:55 PM   #5
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  Originally Posted by TheLastMohican
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I do not have allegiance to any party, and if they changed, my voting pattern would reflect it.

I think based on what is best for the economy and therefore the populace. I think government serves to protect our basic human rights, mantain order, and keep up an infrastructure. Besides that, I see nothing as absolutely necessary. I also prefer to pare down the scope of the government so it does not overstep its bounds or sprawl outside of its area of functional purpose.

I could be considered a Libertarian with fairly strong conservative leanings. I do however disagree with plenty of conservative ideas, mostly those that involve the unnecessary expansion of government and intrusion upon the citizens by the passage of overbearing laws.

I think the best way to define how government should make its decisions is that it should do whatever is best for the economy, with a special consideration for human rights. (Legalizing professional hitmen would eliminate the economic inefficiency, but violate human rights.)

This analysis is spot on. I am fiscally very conservative, but in many other ways, entirely liberal.

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Old 03-25-2008, 08:14 PM   #6
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I did this a while ago and got Libertarian, which pissed me off, as I am a right wing and I HATE libertarians.
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Old 03-25-2008, 08:18 PM   #7
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Above is my result. (Did it successfully show up?)





TheLastMohican added to this post, 2 minutes and 57 seconds later...

Shoot, it did not.

Well, I can describe it: My dot is at the opposite side of the Libertarian square from Antares' dot. You could say it is three spaces "northeast" of hers.
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Old 03-25-2008, 08:43 PM   #8
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I'm a moderate, I don't goto extremes at either end.

I wouldn't fit as Libertarian because I believe some intervention is necessary, no not corporate bailouts but as in some environmental and safety regulations.
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Old 03-25-2008, 08:50 PM   #9
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  Originally Posted by TheLastMohican
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Well, I can describe it: My dot is at the opposite side of the Libertarian square from Antares' dot. You could say it is three spaces "northeast" of hers.


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Does this look right? You're more Libertarian than I am?

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Old 03-25-2008, 09:00 PM   #10
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Does this look right? You're more Libertarian than I am?

That's right.
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Old 03-25-2008, 09:07 PM   #11
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I have a live and let live social attitude, but am fiscally conservative except in my pet areas such as space exploration/ research.

My social ideologies pretty much mirror what my foreign policy would be if I were "the man": leave me alone, and I'll leave you alone. Piss me off, I'll fire zee missiles then go back to sorting my music.
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Old 03-26-2008, 03:11 AM   #12
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I'm socially fairly liberal, fiscally moderate.
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Old 03-26-2008, 04:02 AM   #13
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It says that I am a centrist, although I am more of a conservative with some moralist libertarian leanings.

I believe in strong government, not expansive but strong, with clear policies. I hate that Gordon Brown is holding numerous think tanks and reviews when in the end the country is being allowed to wither.
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Old 03-26-2008, 06:23 PM   #14
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I'm at 90 on the Personal scale, and 20 on the Economic scale. So I guess I'm some kind of pinko, commie, socialist rat.
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:58 PM   #15
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CENTRIST espouse a "middle ground" regarding government
control of the economy and personal behavior. Depending on
the issue, they sometimes favor government intervention
and sometimes support individual freedom of choice.
Centrists pride themselves on keeping an open mind,
tend to oppose "political extremes," and emphasize what
they describe as "practical" solutions to problems.


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Your PERSONAL issues Score is 70%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 50%.
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Old 03-27-2008, 09:08 PM   #16
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Welp, looks like I'm an lolbertarian. I mask myself as an Independent Democrat though ¬_¬
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:32 PM   #17
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  Originally Posted by lordrrr
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I did this a while ago and got Libertarian, which pissed me off, as I am a right wing and I HATE libertarians.

Are you sure?

Why do you hate libertarians? Just curious.

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Old 03-28-2008, 12:37 AM   #18
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Liberal.
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Old 03-28-2008, 03:34 AM   #19
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  Originally Posted by lordrrr
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I did this a while ago and got Libertarian, which pissed me off, as I am a right wing and I HATE libertarians.

I'm *sniff* hurt.

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Old 03-28-2008, 02:50 PM   #20
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I'm more libertarian than any of you. Does this mean I win? No? Crap.

Oddly enough I've never really identified with any political ideology. I've always looked at myself as an independent.
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Old 03-28-2008, 03:01 PM   #21
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I'm more libertarian than any of you.

*snaps head up to glare at new challenger*

Oh yeah? Prove it!

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Old 03-28-2008, 04:39 PM   #22
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I could be considered a Libertarian with fairly strong conservative leanings. I do however disagree with plenty of conservative ideas, mostly those that involve the unnecessary expansion of government and intrusion upon the citizens by the passage of overbearing laws.

Are you sure you're not confusing "conservative" with "Republican?"

I'm a conservative and, for the most part, have a tough time taking the politics/politicians of the Republican Party. Libertarians, in my view, have followed their beliefs to a logical conclussion, but it leaves them wholly impractical. Open borders? No ctizenship? Live and let live foreign policy? Sounds nice, but that leads to immediate domination from outsiders and a quick end to the libertarian paradise, unless there's an outside force offering protection at no real cost.

The Republican Party has space for a small government, slash spending, keep trained men on the walls at night to visit hell upon our enemies, slow down our more breathless citizens so they don't jump on every progressive bandwagon type. Though, admittedly, it has really kicked folks like me in the teeth the last few years. They get no money from me, obviously.

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Old 03-28-2008, 04:46 PM   #23
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Are you sure you're not confusing "conservative" with "Republican?"

I'm a conservative and, for the most part, have a tough time taking the politics/politicians of the Republican Party. Libertarians, in my view, have followed their beliefs to a logical conclussion, but it leaves them wholly impractical. Open borders? No ctizenship? Live and let live foreign policy? Sounds nice, but that leads to immediate domination from outsiders and a quick end to the libertarian paradise, unless there's an outside force offering protection at no real cost.

The Republican Party has space for a small government, slash spending, keep trained men on the walls at night to visit hell upon our enemies, slow down our more breathless citizens so they don't jump on every progressive bandwagon type. Though, admittedly, it has really kicked folks like me in the teeth the last few years. They get no money from me, obviously.

I am not that clear on the distinction between the two (I just have my intuitive understanding, not a list of common stances). I think we certainly should have our system of citizenship. As for immigration policies, those clash with the welfare system, and it is hard to fix them separately. It's one killer combo when you try to clean it up.

The issues I was referring to might apply to both Republicans and Conservatives. For example, I support medical marijuana, which I think tends towards a Liberal view.

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Old 03-28-2008, 05:43 PM   #24
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  Originally Posted by TheLastMohican
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I am not that clear on the distinction between the two (I just have my intuitive understanding, not a list of common stances). I think we certainly should have our system of citizenship. As for immigration policies, those clash with the welfare system, and it is hard to fix them separately. It's one killer combo when you try to clean it up.

The issues I was referring to might apply to both Republicans and Conservatives. For example, I support medical marijuana, which I think tends towards a Liberal view.

Well, I'm considered a conservative, but I have no problem with medical marijuana. I'm also not in favor of the death penalty (also considered a modernday liberal view). I have mixed emotions about the War on Drugs, though I've never used illegal drugs and wouldn't if they were suddenly legal. Beer works for me.

The distinction between the two is that "Republican" is a party affiliation and with that comes some of the disgusting horse-trading, pork barrell projects, and sweet special interest deals that almost every politician (Democrat, Republican, Green) seems to find ethical once they're elected.

Essentially, Republican politicians give conservatives a bad name, in my opinion.

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Old 03-28-2008, 05:45 PM   #25
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Essentially, Republican politicians give conservatives a bad name, in my opinion.

Usually any politicians give their supporters a bad name, it seems.

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