I talk like an N, but I write like an S?

**alegra** · 03-20-2010, 12:17 PM

So, I've taken as many MBTI quizzes out there as you can imagine exist. I've taken tests from books, I've paid money for online tests (back when I was working two jobs and 7 months pregnant), and I've taken a few little rinky-dink free tests online as well.

All of my results have fluctuated between INFJ and INTJ.

But now I'm confused because I was told by someone that I write very concretely sometimes, especially when I'm communicating via Internet...and as most of us are aware, S communication is characteristic of concrete style.

Like I said, I talk like an N in my day-to-day, but when I write (which is becoming pretty rare nowadays), I (sometimes) am very concrete.

I've read only one article explaining the differences between the communication styles of N and S, so I really don't have a very good idea of what I should be looking for pertaining to my own communication style...

So, am I S or N in your opinion(s)?

**Synamon** · 03-20-2010, 12:21 PM

You mentioned that you are diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and bi-polar disorder in one of your posts. It is very difficult to determine the personality type of someone with personality disorders since the system is not intended to be used on people who are not stable.

**MichaelH** · 03-20-2010, 12:47 PM

Also, there's nothing wrong with using different communication styles for different media. In fact, I'd say it's a good thing.
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**freeeekyyy** · 03-20-2010, 01:15 PM

Maybe your inferior Se is surfacing in your writing? I don't know, my knowledge of cognitive functions is insufficient to provide a definite answer.

**rwm4768** · 03-20-2010, 02:36 PM

I can relate to what you're saying. I often find I am able to communicate much more concretely and clearly in writing than in speech.

How strong is your N?

The concrete writing could also be somewhat of a J thing. You are better able to organize your thoughts in a more planned-out fashion like writing. Note: This is pure speculation.

**Antares** · 03-20-2010, 11:10 PM

There was really never much doubt, at least to me, that your type is quite right. As for writing in a concrete style, I prefer communicating in a concrete style as well. Doesn't have to mean you're an S.

**True Rune** · 03-20-2010, 11:12 PM

Maybe you're just terse.

**alegra** · 03-22-2010, 12:43 PM

	Originally Posted by Synamon To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	You mentioned that you are diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and bi-polar disorder in one of your posts. It is very difficult to determine the personality type of someone with personality disorders since the system is not intended to be used on people who are not stable.

Considering my therapist also sees a therapist of her own, the fact that she's changed her diagnosis three times since then, and the fact that when I began seeing this therapist I was emotionally torn head-to-toe, I doubt her diagnosis is accuarate.

	Originally Posted by MichaelH To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Also, there's nothing wrong with using different communication styles for different media. In fact, I'd say it's a good thing. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I agree. Hawk once told me that he wished that I would talk like I write because my writing is much more eloquent, in his opinion.

	Originally Posted by freeeekyyy To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Maybe your inferior Se is surfacing in your writing? I don't know, my knowledge of cognitive functions is insufficient to provide a definite answer.

That's ok! I appreciate the input nonetheless!
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	Originally Posted by rwm4768 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I can relate to what you're saying. I often find I am able to communicate much more concretely and clearly in writing than in speech. How strong is your N? The concrete writing could also be somewhat of a J thing. You are better able to organize your thoughts in a more planned-out fashion like writing. Note: This is pure speculation.

Well, according to that rinky-dink free MBTI/Jung quiz at what's-it's-face website, I'm like 75% N...but I don't really know for sure.

In my opinion and the opinion of my once-ex, now-current boyfriend Hawk, my N is pretty strong.

	Originally Posted by Antares To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	There was really never much doubt, at least to me, that your type is quite right. As for writing in a concrete style, I prefer communicating in a concrete style as well. Doesn't have to mean you're an S.

I deem you as being very intellectually intelligent, and as such, I take your word for it.
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	Maybe you're just terse.

LOL

I have T tendencies, but no one has ever considered me to be terse. If anything, they consider me long-winded.
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**TypeINTJ** · 04-21-2010, 04:22 AM

You are an INFJ, which means your cognitive function order is the following, there are two threads I participated in on this subject if you're are interested for further reading since I don't want to repeat the same material twice, (
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Ni Fe Ti Se / Ne Fi Te Si

in simplistic terms

Dominant / Ni - Big picture, connections between data, synthesis of ideas
Auxiliary / Fe - relationship & people oriented, dealing with people
Tertiary / Ti - using logical frameworks to explain & experience the world
Inferior / Se - experiencing the world physically using your five senses
Double Agent / Ne - Big picture, multiple perspectives on how present or future of an subject or object could go
Double Agent / Fi - self awareness of universal morality, emotions, peoples right to individuality
Alternative / Te - experiencing the world objectively, and manipulating its systems through logical framework
Alternative / Si - experiencing the world based on past experiences of yourself or societies or cultures

as you can see, the reason you are actually writing in concrete logically sequenced manner is because you are starting / or already developing your Introverted Thinking Ti, you tertiary function, Se does totally different things, like physically checking that you went through the steps according to the manual when you were setting up your tv for the first time as an example, Hope that answers your question
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**shaunmikex** · 04-21-2010, 09:51 AM

	Originally Posted by Synamon To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	You mentioned that you are diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and bi-polar disorder in one of your posts. It is very difficult to determine the personality type of someone with personality disorders since the system is not intended to be used on people who are not stable.

I think this is a slightly generalized assumption, even if it is inherent within the theory itself. I would say it depends on if the person were having an episode or not. Those with disorders can have a root in a particular personality when in stable periods. I'm quite sure an IS would act differently from an IN with the same disorder.

To OP: Also, as a writer, I can tend to be very abstract (when writing Sci-Fi/Creative stories) or very concrete (factual/political statements). If you are an INTJ (going by theory here), I'd imagine Te would distinguish which times to employ abstract vs. concrete progressions.

**Trevor Black** · 04-21-2010, 10:02 AM

You're giving too much credit to MBTI. The name says it, it's a Type Indicator. It's a generalization of your temperament. It doesn't tell you how you act in every single instance of your life. MBTI is not the ultimate psychological answer to life, the universe, and everything.

I am in general more emotionally aware than the INTJs here say to be, I smile and feel happy and grateful when I do feel happy, and honestly sad when I feel sad. But I still strongly fit the INTJ profile.

<- Look at my smiling face there :D

Yes, I am an INTJ, one striving to show up as a good person. Don't say to know everything about a person simply because they fit an MBTI profile.

**TypeINTJ** · 04-21-2010, 10:41 AM


	You're giving too much credit to MBTI. The name says it, it's a Type Indicator. It's a generalization of your temperament. It doesn't tell you how you act in every single instance of your life. MBTI is not the ultimate psychological answer to life, the universe, and everything.

You're right on that, MBTI practitioners and community gravitated heavily towards behavior patterns after the original authors passed, but there is a split, those who rely on temperamental behaviors, and others who rely on the cognitive functions, closer to Jung's original approach, on how the brain processes information and acts based on it.


	I am in general more emotionally aware than the INTJs here say to be, I smile and feel happy and grateful when I do feel happy, and honestly sad when I feel sad. But I still strongly fit the INTJ profile.

Good for you, me too
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, if you look at it from a functional cognitive view, you have a well developed Fi ( tertiary function ) that allows you to be comfortable with you internal emotions, and allows you to know your feeling themselves without them controlling you but adding to your personal experience.


	<- Look at my smiling face there :D Yes, I am an INTJ, one striving to show up as a good person. Don't say to know everything about a person simply because they fit an MBTI profile.

MBTI original purpose was showing people that they are different and that its ok, ofcourse they got carried away, and more so there practitioners, people forget its an indicator of your preferences, just to send you in the right direction, its not supposed to do more than that !

**shaunmikex** · 04-21-2010, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by TypeINTJ
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You're right on that, MBTI practitioners and community gravitated heavily towards behavior patterns after the original authors passed, but there is a split, those who rely on temperamental behaviors, and others who rely on the cognitive functions, closer to Jung's original approach, on how the brain processes information and acts based on it.

Good for you, me too
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, if you look at it from a functional cognitive view, you have a well developed Fi ( tertiary function ) that allows you to be comfortable with you internal emotions, and allows you to know your feeling themselves without them controlling you but adding to your personal experience.

MBTI original purpose was showing people that they are different and that its ok, ofcourse they got carried away, and more so there practitioners, people forget its an indicator of your preferences, just to send you in the right direction, its not supposed to do more than that !

Amen. I have a pretty strong Fi as well...many people will confuse me for an ISFP etc especially when i'm more into my music/art.

Just to add...people put wayy to much weight into the MBTI system. I don't even know if MBTI types have different writing styles that are readily distinguishable. SP types can have quite imaginative/colorful language. J types can have long-winded, descriptive sentence structures. NTs are said to have both.

See where this leads? nowhere really. Be happy that you can write...I know of an INTJ friend who is a horrid writer, yet my other EXFP friend is fantastic.

**Xaleph** · 04-22-2010, 03:33 AM

If you're an INTJ, you talk like an N and write like an **S.

...just sayin from personal experience...

**Solaris** · 04-22-2010, 10:51 AM

I'm sort of skipping everything else posted, and adding this: You said you did a lot of testing while pregnant. Having just had a baby myself, and know I am otherwise mentally stable (no abnormal disorders), being pregnant *really* screws with your personality. I refrained from taking any test while pregnant. I do know that, at first, I was very touchy/feely, but would yo-yo over to super emotionally sensitive and angry. Then I was very reclusive later. I was not "me" while pregnant, so I would only have gotten my pregnant type -- which I'd wager is more INFJ than my usual ENTJ.

Find a stable therapist, sort yourself out, and don't test immediately postpartum or while pregnant -- that's my advice.

03-20-2010, 12:17 PM	#1
alegra New Member [01%] MBTI: INFJ Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 44	So, I've taken as many MBTI quizzes out there as you can imagine exist. I've taken tests from books, I've paid money for online tests (back when I was working two jobs and 7 months pregnant), and I've taken a few little rinky-dink free tests online as well. All of my results have fluctuated between INFJ and INTJ. But now I'm confused because I was told by someone that I write very concretely sometimes, especially when I'm communicating via Internet...and as most of us are aware, S communication is characteristic of concrete style. Like I said, I talk like an N in my day-to-day, but when I write (which is becoming pretty rare nowadays), I (sometimes) am very concrete. I've read only one article explaining the differences between the communication styles of N and S, so I really don't have a very good idea of what I should be looking for pertaining to my own communication style... So, am I S or N in your opinion(s)?
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03-20-2010, 12:21 PM	#2
Synamon Core Member [465%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 18,616	You mentioned that you are diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and bi-polar disorder in one of your posts. It is very difficult to determine the personality type of someone with personality disorders since the system is not intended to be used on people who are not stable.
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03-20-2010, 12:47 PM	#3
MichaelH Member [06%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 262	Also, there's nothing wrong with using different communication styles for different media. In fact, I'd say it's a good thing. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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03-20-2010, 01:15 PM	#4
freeeekyyy Veteran Member [80%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,216	Maybe your inferior Se is surfacing in your writing? I don't know, my knowledge of cognitive functions is insufficient to provide a definite answer.
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03-20-2010, 02:36 PM	#5
rwm4768 Member [09%] MBTI: INFJ Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 360	I can relate to what you're saying. I often find I am able to communicate much more concretely and clearly in writing than in speech. How strong is your N? The concrete writing could also be somewhat of a J thing. You are better able to organize your thoughts in a more planned-out fashion like writing. Note: This is pure speculation.
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03-20-2010, 11:10 PM	#6
Antares Core Member [175%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,029	There was really never much doubt, at least to me, that your type is quite right. As for writing in a concrete style, I prefer communicating in a concrete style as well. Doesn't have to mean you're an S.
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03-20-2010, 11:12 PM	#7
True Rune Core Member [201%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 8,062	Maybe you're just terse.
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04-21-2010, 04:22 AM	#9
TypeINTJ Member [09%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 363	You are an INFJ, which means your cognitive function order is the following, there are two threads I participated in on this subject if you're are interested for further reading since I don't want to repeat the same material twice, ( To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. & To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ) : Ni Fe Ti Se / Ne Fi Te Si in simplistic terms Dominant / Ni - Big picture, connections between data, synthesis of ideas Auxiliary / Fe - relationship & people oriented, dealing with people Tertiary / Ti - using logical frameworks to explain & experience the world Inferior / Se - experiencing the world physically using your five senses Double Agent / Ne - Big picture, multiple perspectives on how present or future of an subject or object could go Double Agent / Fi - self awareness of universal morality, emotions, peoples right to individuality Alternative / Te - experiencing the world objectively, and manipulating its systems through logical framework Alternative / Si - experiencing the world based on past experiences of yourself or societies or cultures as you can see, the reason you are actually writing in concrete logically sequenced manner is because you are starting / or already developing your Introverted Thinking Ti, you tertiary function, Se does totally different things, like physically checking that you went through the steps according to the manual when you were setting up your tv for the first time as an example, Hope that answers your question To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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04-21-2010, 10:02 AM	#11
Trevor Black Member [15%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 631	You're giving too much credit to MBTI. The name says it, it's a Type Indicator. It's a generalization of your temperament. It doesn't tell you how you act in every single instance of your life. MBTI is not the ultimate psychological answer to life, the universe, and everything. I am in general more emotionally aware than the INTJs here say to be, I smile and feel happy and grateful when I do feel happy, and honestly sad when I feel sad. But I still strongly fit the INTJ profile. <- Look at my smiling face there :D Yes, I am an INTJ, one striving to show up as a good person. Don't say to know everything about a person simply because they fit an MBTI profile.
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04-22-2010, 03:33 AM	#14
Xaleph New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 47	If you're an INTJ, you talk like an N and write like an **S. ...just sayin from personal experience...
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04-22-2010, 10:51 AM	#15
Solaris Core Member [178%] MBTI: ENTJ Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 7,152	I'm sort of skipping everything else posted, and adding this: You said you did a lot of testing while pregnant. Having just had a baby myself, and know I am otherwise mentally stable (no abnormal disorders), being pregnant really screws with your personality. I refrained from taking any test while pregnant. I do know that, at first, I was very touchy/feely, but would yo-yo over to super emotionally sensitive and angry. Then I was very reclusive later. I was not "me" while pregnant, so I would only have gotten my pregnant type -- which I'd wager is more INFJ than my usual ENTJ. Find a stable therapist, sort yourself out, and don't test immediately postpartum or while pregnant -- that's my advice.
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